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Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.20.2013

Sep 30 @ 9:04 PM ET
Matt Henderson: Tkachev Day Cancelled: Go Home
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:06 PM ET
So bizarre that he was PTO-eligible, but couldn't be signed.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 30 @ 9:08 PM ET



*kicks dog*




Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:11 PM ET
Matt Henderson: Tkachev Day Cancelled: Go Home
- Matt_Henderson

I hear Jay Feaster is available for GM & President of Hockey Ops position. He knows Alberta well enough too.
patheticgirl43
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Paddy's Pub, PA
Joined: 03.30.2011

Sep 30 @ 9:14 PM ET
Would've been nice if the nhl gave a heads up when he signed the pto. Anyone know the appeals process of this?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 30 @ 9:15 PM ET
Tough break...he'll look good beside Grigorenko next year
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:18 PM ET
I hear Jay Feaster is available for GM & President of Hockey Ops position. He knows Alberta well enough too.
- Kevin R


Must be too much oil in your water.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Sep 30 @ 9:20 PM ET
Would've been nice if the nhl gave a heads up when he signed the pto. Anyone know the appeals process of this?
- patheticgirl43


All complaints to be filed in the green bin by the door.
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Sep 30 @ 9:23 PM ET
realistically where will he go in the draft?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:23 PM ET
realistically where will he go in the draft?
- JVR_42_PK81

Yes.
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:24 PM ET
Would've been nice if the nhl gave a heads up when he signed the pto. Anyone know the appeals process of this?
- patheticgirl43


Well it isn't the NHL's job. Just like it wasn't their job to tell the Flames how the rules actually worked on an offer sheet.

Its the Oiler's job to know the ins and outs of the CBA
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:24 PM ET
realistically where will he go in the draft?
- JVR_42_PK81


After this hype, like 3rd round. Before, probably like 6th
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Sep 30 @ 9:24 PM ET
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Sep 30 @ 9:26 PM ET
After this hype, like 3rd round. Before, probably like 6th
- DTF69


He has to gain some weight. 140
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:26 PM ET
After this hype, like 3rd round. Before, probably like 6th
- DTF69


Clearly a ploy by his agent who knew all along.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:28 PM ET
Well it isn't the NHL's job. Just like it wasn't their job to tell the Flames how the rules actually worked on an offer sheet.

Its the Oiler's job to know the ins and outs of the CBA

- DTF69


Why do they allow PTO's for guys like him anyway? And why aren't other teams inviting other prospects who are 18 but still draft eligible to their camps for a better view and free chance to scout them? Seems like a no-brainer.
patheticgirl43
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Paddy's Pub, PA
Joined: 03.30.2011

Sep 30 @ 9:28 PM ET
Well it isn't the NHL's job. Just like it wasn't their job to tell the Flames how the rules actually worked on an offer sheet.

Its the Oiler's job to know the ins and outs of the CBA

- DTF69


Oh for sure it's the oilers (frank) up, they're to blame. I'm just curious how he was eligible for a pto but not a contract
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:30 PM ET
Why do they allow PTO's for guys like him anyway? And why aren't other teams inviting other prospects who are 18 but still draft eligible to their camps for a better view and free chance to scout them? Seems like a no-brainer.
- Nucker101


Maybe we'll see more of it.

But its happened a few times. I think the Flyers and Caps both had this happen.

But I think the only reason they were able to reach a PTO was because of some weird eligibility thing due to him playing in Russia.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Sep 30 @ 9:33 PM ET
Nothing lost nothing gained tho. It's not like he took up a camp spot away from anyone worth while.
Smart move by his agent though as his spotlight is much brighter now.
Bet he goes before the 4th round in 2015.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Sep 30 @ 9:37 PM ET
Maybe we'll see more of it.

But its happened a few times. I think the Flyers and Caps both had this happen.

But I think the only reason they were able to reach a PTO was because of some weird eligibility thing due to him playing in Russia.

- DTF69

If there is anything positive about it, the Oilers got an exclusive look at the kid a year early. Way better than a 15 min interview at the draft and all it cost them was a couple plane tickets and an extra plate at the catering line .
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 30 @ 9:38 PM ET
Nothing lost nothing gained tho. It's not like he took up a camp spot away from anyone worth while.
Smart move by his agent though as his spotlight is much brighter now.
Bet he goes before the 4th round in 2015.

- Jeropotato


now he will go back to Moncton, light up the juniors, maybe get a mem cup chance. IM sure he will at least go in the 4th round now.

Feels like Oilers should be able to get first crack at him by using a pick in the 3rd round, after that hes free game.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 30 @ 9:40 PM ET
Why do they allow PTO's for guys like him anyway? And why aren't other teams inviting other prospects who are 18 but still draft eligible to their camps for a better view and free chance to scout them? Seems like a no-brainer.
- Nucker101

They do. Anybody undrafted and under (22? I think) is draft eligible.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:40 PM ET
If there is anything positive about it, the Oilers got an exclusive look at the kid a year early. Way better than a 15 min interview at the draft and all it cost them was a couple plane tickets and an extra plate at the catering line .
- Jeropotato


Exactly. If I was a GM I'd invite as many decent prospects in this situation as possible to rookie camp at least.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Sep 30 @ 9:41 PM ET
Exactly. If I was a GM I'd invite as many decent prospects in this situation as possible to rookie camp at least.
- Nucker101

Pretty rare that more than a few quality players go u drafted in any given Year.....but it does happen.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 9:42 PM ET
They do.
- AdamFrench


Is it very common though? There should be almost all teams interested in doing it and fighting for the chance to do so. I know they're typically long shot prospects and not many who fit this "loophole" but a free up-close scouting opportunity is a great way to find gems in future drafts.
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