John Jaeckel: Top 10 Goalies, Now And All-Time

John Jaeckel: Top 10 Goalies, Now And All-Time
- John Jaeckel

Hard to argue the All Time list..

But more than a few in the Now section I think are way off!

Hard to argue the All Time list..

But more than a few in the Now section I think are way off!
- MrBeanTown

Which ones?

Hard to argue the All Time list..

But more than a few in the Now section I think are way off!
- MrBeanTown

I haven't thought about it, but I do like JJs top 5, though I'd move Price up.

Agree. I haven't thought about it, but JJ's "now" list is hum...I do like his top 4 though.
- kwolf68

I can't wait for 6628 to chime in. He either redeems me or makes mincemeat.

Billy Smith should be in the 3-5 range of all time.

John Jaeckel: Top 10 Goalies, Now And All-Time
- John Jaeckel

Henrik Lundqvist can't be ranked #1. I personally would but the lack of a Stanley cup his resume will hinder him.

Quick
Tuukka
Lundqvist
Price
Rinne
Bobrovsky
Lehtonen
Schneider
Varlamov
Bishop

Dryden was the best I ever saw. albeit played on some great teams.. But he shut Orr, Espo, Cashman, Hodge etc down as a kid.. 6 cups in 9 years. Was amazing. Also played with pads the size of shoeboxes. Not the megatron pads of the 90's 2000's

The bottom 5 still has a couple guys that are simple not yet proven (Bishop, Schneider) and Kari as #6 overall? Hmmm.

The Bob should be up there and Varlamov missing is interesting.

And of course, how long until we start discussing Crawdaddy?

Dog days of summer baby.

I agree with the top 5. Bottom 5 is off.

John Jaeckel: Top 10 Goalies, Now And All-Time
- John Jaeckel

No love for Corey Crawford?

Which ones?
- John Jaeckel

Actually after looking closer I wouldn't say more than a few... But at this point I don't put Niemi in the Top 10

Off the cuff something like this for me:

Lundquist
Quick
Rask
Price
Rinne
Bobrovsky
Schneider
Lethonen
Miller
Howard

I didn't include guys like Bishop & varly (although I think they are going to be) as they haven't had the string of seasons together to include them.

Ben Bishop better than Corey Crawford? I'd still rather have Craig Anderson as #1 then Bishop. Big Ben had 1 great season & now he's top 10

Am I wrong or doesn't Schneider have the best save % over the last 3 years?

Ben Bishop better than Corey Crawford? I'd still rather have Craig Anderson as #1 then Bishop. Big Ben had 1 great season & now he's top 10
- Erik6Karlsson5

How many great seasons has Anderson had?

Ben Bishop better than Corey Crawford? I'd still rather have Craig Anderson as #1 then Bishop. Big Ben had 1 great season & now he's top 10
- Erik6Karlsson5

JJ loves Craig Anderson, so you might get him excited.

Not sure how Lundqvist is #1, when he just lost to Quick. I realize there are other factors in that, but Quick has two cups to his name. Gotta be worth something.

And Niemi...

JJ loves Craig Anderson, so you might get him excited.

Not sure how Lundqvist is #1, when he just lost to Quick. I realize there are other factors in that, but Quick has two cups to his name. Gotta be worth something.

And Niemi...
- eburgio

Good point. Quick as the #1 is credible...he pretty much single-handedly won their first Cup, though I thought he was no better than Crawford in this years WCF.

JJ loves Craig Anderson, so you might get him excited.

Not sure how Lundqvist is #1, when he just lost to Quick. I realize there are other factors in that, but Quick has two cups to his name. Gotta be worth something.

And Niemi...
- eburgio

Yes, and yes: Niemi says NO!!

I think the best way to determine the "best 10 currently" would be to take the save % from the last 2 years, then give guys credit for making it far in the playoffs or winning cups.

How many great seasons has Anderson had?
- MrBeanTown

he's been top 5 in vezina voting twice, and was a finalist once, and would have probably won it running away in the lockout year if he hadn't of missed 10 or so games.

i don't think he belongs in the top 10, but he's a good goalie.

i'm not sure how varlamov isn't on the top 10 list. he's proved AT LEAST as much, if not more, than bishop....and is easily ahead of lehtonen and niemi, IMO.

Dryden was the best I ever saw. albeit played on some great teams.. But he shut Orr, Espo, Cashman, Hodge etc down as a kid.. 6 cups in 9 years. Was amazing. Also played with pads the size of shoeboxes. Not the megatron pads of the 90's 2000's
- Popcorn Kid

Plante, Hall, Sawchuck, Worsley - played most of their careers with not only pads like shoeboxes, but no mask (until Plante put one on).

So they were almost completely stand-up goalies - altho not facing that many 100MPH slap shots until late in their careers - what would they have been like in today's game with today's equipment and today's training?

John Jaeckel: Top 10 Goalies, Now And All-Time
- John Jaeckel

The all-time list is pretty good. Although I would have Hasek at #1 because nobody dominated like him in his prime. His numbers were astounding on a weak Buffalo team for many years.

The "now" list.... everybody would argue including myself.

he's been top 5 in vezina voting twice, and was a finalist once, and would have probably won it running away in the lockout year if he hadn't of missed 10 or so games.

i don't think he belongs in the top 10, but he's a good goalie.

i'm not sure how varlamov isn't on the top 10 list. he's proved AT LEAST as much, if not more, than bishop....and is easily ahead of lehtonen and niemi, IMO.
- sensarmy_11

Where I'm at, vastly underrated by most IMO

Varlamov was/is a strong consideration

When I look at JJ list I think he is saying Goalies "now" and taking into consideration what they ahve done in the time during their career not just now as last season or 2... Hard to judge Varly and Bishop in that circumstance

I think the best way to determine the "best 10 currently" would be to take the save % from the last 2 years, then give guys credit for making it far in the playoffs or winning cups.
- Erik6Karlsson5

Not really fair to a guy like Rinne who was injured last year and plays for a sub-optimal team to begin with.

My top 3 would be:

1. Martin Brodeur
2. Domenick Hasek
3. Patrick Roy

I agree with the order of the rest. I'm glad Bernie made your top-10 (yes, I am slightly biased).