Ryan Wilson: Penguins News and Notes for 7/23/14 Penguins News and Notes for 7/23/14

I'm guessing Recchi and Crosby have patched things up since their first season together.

Wow - "Scouting Eastern Conference teams and comparing them to the Pens"

...I guess thats what happens when 15 people are in hockey operations....everyone's slice of duty gets smaller...

Surprising that someone with Jacques Martin's experience as a succesful coach in the nhl is being shunted to a mostly ceremonial desk job. Wow only in Penguins Land

I'm guessing Recchi and Crosby have patched things up since their first season together.
- jmatchett383

They probably won't run across each other much. I think BG was in Wilkes Barre a lot in that role. Even if they do they are professionals hopefully they have worked it out.

i like the Recchi choice. good guy, will do well in the role.

still interested to see if anything else is done to this team. got to think they are looking for another top 6 winger. dont know whether they'll go big with a guy like kane or look for a low risk-high reward guy like satan or fedotenko in 2009.

ideally, this would be my roster.

Kane-Crosby-Bennett
Kunitz-Malkin-Hornqvist
Dupuis-Spaling-Downie
Bissonette-Goc-Comeau

Letang-Despres
Ehrhoff-Maatta
Bortuzzo-Harrington

Surprising that someone with Jacques Martin's experience as a succesful coach in the nhl is being shunted to a mostly ceremonial desk job. Wow only in Penguins Land
- intelligentscorpio

Might have been mutual.

i like the Recchi choice. good guy, will do well in the role.

still interested to see if anything else is done to this team. got to think they are looking for another top 6 winger. dont know whether they'll go big with a guy like kane or look for a low risk-high reward guy like satan or fedotenko in 2009.

ideally, this would be my roster.

Kane-Crosby-Bennett
Kunitz-Malkin-Hornqvist
Dupuis-Spaling-Downie
Bissonette-Goc-Comeau

Letang-Despres
Martin-Maatta
Bortuzzo-Harrington
- SuperHenderson13

And... what are you doing to make those trades?

Surprising that someone with Jacques Martin's experience as a succesful coach in the nhl is being shunted to a mostly ceremonial desk job. Wow only in Penguins Land
- intelligentscorpio

I think it seems as Jacques wants a more GM-like role, and this may be a good starting point. I don't see it as ceremonial though, this is a position that needs to be very spot on the information about other teams, how they adapt to different situations, strengths/etc. If done well it will pay off huge dividends in the playoffs.

It really feels like Groundhog Day

i like the Recchi choice. good guy, will do well in the role.

still interested to see if anything else is done to this team. got to think they are looking for another top 6 winger. dont know whether they'll go big with a guy like kane or look for a low risk-high reward guy like satan or fedotenko in 2009.

ideally, this would be my roster.

Kane-Crosby-Bennett
Kunitz-Malkin-Hornqvist
Dupuis-Spaling-Downie
Bissonette-Goc-Comeau

Letang-Despres
Ehrhoff-Maatta
Bortuzzo-Harrington
- SuperHenderson13

Kane and ROR and guys like that are just too expensive to be realistic. I'm thinking
(if they are pursuing top 6 help) they would look one tier lower than those guys. I could see an older guy who is more of a stop gap like Marleau or Sharp. Or a younger guy that is less "elite" like Tatar/Ritchie/Nyqust/Coyle.

Kane and ROR and guys like that are just too expensive to be realistic. I'm thinking
(if they are pursuing top 6 help) they would look one tier lower than those guys. I could see an older guy who is more of a stop gap like Marleau or Sharp. Or a younger guy that is less "elite" like Tatar/Ritchie/Nyqust/Coyle.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I've been saying this for months: Neidereitter +4th (turns into 2nd if MArtin resigns or MIN makes final 4) for Martin.

And... what are you doing to make those trades?
- Guile

the deal for Kane would likely include Sutter and Dumolin, hence their absence from the roster. what else is involved in the deal is up in the air.

martin would be traded to replenish the draft pick/prospect we lose and get something. probably to a team like minnesota.

Kane and ROR and guys like that are just too expensive to be realistic. I'm thinking
(if they are pursuing top 6 help) they would look one tier lower than those guys. I could see an older guy who is more of a stop gap like Marleau or Sharp. Or a younger guy that is less "elite" like Tatar/Ritchie/Nyqust/Coyle.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

i wouldnt mind Marleau. He is older but i think he still has some good hockey in him.

the deal for Kane would likely include Sutter and Dumolin, hence their absence from the roster. what else is involved in the deal is up in the air.

martin would be traded to replenish the draft pick/prospect we lose and get something. probably to a team like minnesota.
- SuperHenderson13

Any deal involving Kane isn't going to happen with Dumolin as the prospect. I'd think Sutter, Pouliot, and a 1st would be more likely

Any deal involving Kane isn't going to happen with Dumolin as the prospect. I'd think Sutter, Pouliot, and a 1st would be more likely
- dbell646

I'd do that trade in a heartbeat

i like the Recchi choice. good guy, will do well in the role.

still interested to see if anything else is done to this team. got to think they are looking for another top 6 winger. dont know whether they'll go big with a guy like kane or look for a low risk-high reward guy like satan or fedotenko in 2009.

ideally, this would be my roster.

Kane-Crosby-Bennett
Kunitz-Malkin-Hornqvist
Dupuis-Spaling-Downie
Bissonette-Goc-Comeau

Letang-Despres
Ehrhoff-Maatta
Bortuzzo-Harrington
- SuperHenderson13

Kane will end up being involved in a Keith Yandle trade. Book it. Also, we have no need for Biznasty. Guy's a hoss, but all he is is a plug, and an expensive plug for what he brings to the table at that due to how established he is. I actually like what we did with our bottom 6. We got physical, without really signing any plugs whos' only function is to beat people up. We did sign Downie, but the guy's produced before so its possible that we can be pleasantly surprised by him, which I think is what the FO is thinking. I can guarantee that Biznasty will not pleasantly surprise anyone. He's been measured, he's been weighed, and he's been found wanting.

Also Letang and Despres playing together is a receipt for disaster. That is not the partner Letang needs to succeed. We need to keep Martin until further notice unless a really good trade comes along.

Wow - "Scouting Eastern Conference teams and comparing them to the Pens"

...I guess thats what happens when 15 people are in hockey operations....everyone's slice of duty gets smaller...
- YouMeAndDupuis9

It translates into, "We just signed you to a contract last season, and we don't want to just eat the rest of it while you are lounging on some beach, so why don't you watch a few hockey games for us once in a while and tell us about them?"

Random trade of the day (and when i say random, i mean random)

Letang, Sutter, Pouliot, 1st to WPG for Ladd and Byfuglien

Lines:

Ladd-Crosby-Hornqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Byfuglien
Bennett-Spaling-Dupuis
Comeau-Goc-Downie

The top 2 lines would be nasty to play against.

Random trade of the day (and when i say random, i mean random)

Letang, Sutter, Pouliot, 1st to WPG for Ladd and Byfuglien

Lines:

Ladd-Crosby-Hornqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Byfuglien
Bennett-Spaling-Dupuis
Comeau-Goc-Downie

The top 2 lines would be nasty to play against.
- cap1681

That's a lot of power forwards/net front presences. Although each player is very good and I would love to have any and all of them on my team, it almost reeks of redundancy. I would send one of those guys to the third line in favor of Bennett to get some sort of shooting/sniping/play making presence in the top 6 along with Captain Cros and Geno.

Also, if we traded Letang, would we not have to use Big Buf on the blue line? I, at least, think so, unless we have some young guy that ends up being a maturity maniac like Maatta, which is unlikely.

In short, I dunno if I would do this trade. I'm hesitant to trade Letang because I think he and Martin could be more than great together this year, and I feel like we'd have too many of the same type of guys in the top 6.

i wouldnt mind Marleau. He is older but i think he still has some good hockey in him.
- SuperHenderson13

Yes. Marleau would be a good fit here, imo. He can probably be had without a 1st rd pick.

If we were targeting some of the young guys out there, we would probably need to involve our 1st round draft pick.

Do you guys think Letand and Ehrhoff are going to be getting playing time together this year? Since the extension rumor for us was already made, and I think we all like the idea of him staying here (unless he bombs this season), wouldnt he and Letang be the likely future top pairing? So, wouldn't it make sense to start playing them together now to see if that would work or not?

Tough to break up that Martin Letang pairing, but also can't let Martin go/trade him, without having any time to test the water between Ehrhoff and Letang right?

Do you guys think Letand and Ehrhoff are going to be getting playing time together this year? Since the extension rumor for us was already made, and I think we all like the idea of him staying here (unless he bombs this season), wouldnt he and Letang be the likely future top pairing? So, wouldn't it make sense to start playing them together now to see if that would work or not?

Tough to break up that Martin Letang pairing, but also can't let Martin go/trade him, without having any time to test the water between Ehrhoff and Letang right?
- Guile

Could be maatta and letang erhoff and despres at some point

Do you guys think Letand and Ehrhoff are going to be getting playing time together this year? Since the extension rumor for us was already made, and I think we all like the idea of him staying here (unless he bombs this season), wouldnt he and Letang be the likely future top pairing? So, wouldn't it make sense to start playing them together now to see if that would work or not?

Tough to break up that Martin Letang pairing, but also can't let Martin go/trade him, without having any time to test the water between Ehrhoff and Letang right?
- Guile

Tough to say. At the end of the day, we are cup contenders, and maybe even the favorites in the East depending on how Montreal and Boston end up looking, so we have to roll out the best we got. We can't just put Letang and Ehrhoff together to experiment for the future when we are still clearly in the now.

That being said, they'll probably get a good amount of practice time together. How they work together in practice will dictate what we see on game day. (Obvious statement of the day).