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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 22 @ 10:59 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Kevin Hayes and the Penguins Kevin Hayes and the Penguins
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:04 AM ET

/hockey withdrawal
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:04 AM ET

/hockey withdrawal

- BulliesPhan87

Totally gives me deja vu of college and experimentation.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:05 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Kevin Hayes and the Penguins
Kevin Hayes and the Penguins

- Ryan_Wilson

Can't lose on this one. Cost nothing to get him in the pipeline. If he pans out awesome if he doesn't nothing lost. I'd go after him pretty aggresively
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:27 AM ET
Can't lose on this one. Cost nothing to get him in the pipeline. If he pans out awesome if he doesn't nothing lost. I'd go after him pretty aggresively
- dbell646


Define 'aggresively'.

Like pay something for his rights? Or offer him a long term contract?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:30 AM ET
Posted this on the last board, but of course, I timed it right when Ryan put a new blog out....

FYI:
TIOPS says Oilers and Avs have keen interest in Sutter (oilers especially)
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:31 AM ET
Define 'aggresively'.

Like pay something for his rights? Or offer him a long term contract?

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Like making sure he knows you'd like to sign him and give him an opportunity to make our roster. Not just call and say hey we wouldn't mind having this guy
MrBeanTown
Boston Bruins
Location: Garth blogs make me regret my literacy, NF
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jul 22 @ 11:32 AM ET
Hoping he comes to BOS and stays close to where he went to College.... We need a cheaper option on Wing... BUT, someone will pay much more than BOS can
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:35 AM ET
Posted this on the last board, but of course, I timed it right when Ryan put a new blog out....

FYI:
TIOPS says Oilers and Avs have keen interest in Sutter (oilers especially)

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Oilers are tough. Perron and yak would be the obvious targets but would require more then Sutter. I'd love to get yak on this team. But he was 1 overall and would probably require a pretty descent package. Avs I suppose McGinn makes sense or maybe a much bigger deal for ROR (pipe dream)
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:36 AM ET
Posted this on the last board, but of course, I timed it right when Ryan put a new blog out....

FYI:
TIOPS says Oilers and Avs have keen interest in Sutter (oilers especially)

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Both of those teams would make sense...
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:36 AM ET
Hoping he comes to BOS and stays close to where he went to College.... We need a cheaper option on Wing... BUT, someone will pay much more than BOS can
- MrBeanTown

Us as well.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Oilers are tough. Perron and yak would be the obvious targets but would require more then Sutter. I'd love to get yak on this team. But he was 1 overall and would probably require a pretty descent package. Avs I suppose McGinn makes sense or maybe a much bigger deal for ROR (pipe dream)
- dbell646


There is nothing attractive about Yak.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Both of those teams would make sense...
- rival22


Should have gotten to the Avs before they moved Paranteau IMO
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:42 AM ET

/hockey withdrawal

- BulliesPhan87



Ya Richard... im off work... wasn't ready for the image battle today >_<
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
Define 'aggresively'.

Like pay something for his rights? Or offer him a long term contract?

- YouMeAndDupuis9



Aggressive... in my mind, i THINK the normal for a minor league player is 550k? (someone correct me if im wrong).

I see no reason to not offer him 750k to 1 mil, half for hte AHL, half NHL type deal, so only less than 500K hits our cap.

That is, if hes ready to come up to the NHL sometime this year even, if not, just 750K will do, an extra 200K to lock this guy up.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:46 AM ET
Us as well.
- dbell646


yeah.. that's the problem... Edmonton paid Shultz almost $4 mil with bonuses (I'm assuming that he hit those bonuses).

That's a good chunk of cap space to use up for a question mark.

As big of a stud as people think he will be (and 27 goals in Hockey East is damn good), it was a big jump from his previous years. He was an ok player until his senior year (some injuries as well)... Maybe it all came together for him, but maybe it's a bit of an aberration?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:49 AM ET
There is nothing attractive about Yak.
- sammy87

Speed and shot?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
yeah.. that's the problem... Edmonton paid Shultz almost $4 mil with bonuses (I'm assuming that he hit those bonuses).

That's a good chunk of cap space to use up for a question mark.

As big of a stud as people think he will be (and 27 goals in Hockey East is damn good), it was a big jump from his previous years. He was an ok player until his senior year (some injuries as well)... Maybe it all came together for him, but maybe it's a bit of an aberration?

- rival22

Ryan might be able to find his shooting %
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
Ya Richard... im off work... wasn't ready for the image battle today >_<
- Guile

All's fair in love and war, bro
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:53 AM ET
Aggressive... in my mind, i THINK the normal for a minor league player is 550k? (someone correct me if im wrong).

I see no reason to not offer him 750k to 1 mil, half for hte AHL, half NHL type deal, so only less than 500K hits our cap.

That is, if hes ready to come up to the NHL sometime this year even, if not, just 750K will do, an extra 200K to lock this guy up.

- Guile


That's a good point, I'd throw a little extra money at him just because of how badly we need young impact forwards. I think lots of teams will be interested so it will most likely come down to where Hayes wants to be. We can't promise him top 6 time right off the bat but PIT is probably a great mixture of opportunity to play combined with a cup contender.

He's more of a 'need' than a guy I would specifically target.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:53 AM ET
Ryan might be able to find his shooting %
- dbell646


College hockey is a much smaller sample size. You have to be careful.

The more games played, the more useful the stats are.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:56 AM ET
Hoping he comes to BOS and stays close to where he went to College.... We need a cheaper option on Wing... BUT, someone will pay much more than BOS can
- MrBeanTown


This is an EL contract, therefore it's limited to $900k or so. Even playing field for all teams, except for a bonus structure, which I believe is also capped, so I'm pretty sure Hayes is going to make roughly the same amount of money wherever he goes. It really comes down to where he wants to play and whether any team can all but guarantee him a legit shot at top-6 minutes.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:56 AM ET
Speed and shot?
- dbell646


Yak still has plenty of attractive qualities. One of them being not named Brandon Sutter.

I would try a Sutter + something minor for Perron deal.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:57 AM ET
Speed and shot?
- dbell646


when he wants to use them, yeah but far too often he is a lazy Russian and most likely will be in the KHL soon. OV has speed and a shot but I would want no part of him as well.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
when he wants to use them, yeah but far too often he is a lazy Russian and most likely will be in the KHL soon. OV has speed and a shot but I would want no part of him as well.
- sammy87


Well there's a little difference between Ovechkin at $9M and Yakupov @ $900k
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