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GARTH'S CORNER
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @SabresBuzz
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 6 @ 9:37 AM ET
GARTH'S CORNER: Subban Will Finally Get Paid
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jul 6 @ 10:34 AM ET
PK Subban is the man! He can do it all, I loved him in the postseason. You don't see too many d-men put a team on his back and carry them, very often these days.

But PK was an total beast vs The Bruins in the playoffs. Not only didnt he back down from an antagonistic Bruins squad & some racist fans, he put em down!!

Sabre fans should be able to appreciate the magnitude of such a feat... remembering a night when the Milan Lucic steamrolled our franchise goaltender, broke the spirit of this organization, & ultimately signified the beginning of the end for The Ruff/Regier Era in Sabres history.




MTL is really lucky to be able to build around a guy like that, & with the salary cap going up... Having a few big contracts will soon become the norm for every club.

To bad for us Myers wasn't more like Subban. PK just works (as my franchise player, as my captain, as my #1 d-man, PP qb), pay the man.

Myers & Hodgson to MTL, for PK!!

Ill pay Subban $9 mill/yr & he'll be happier than all get out. Guys like Subban, Doughty, Towes, Kane.. These guys are what the modern NHL is all about!!
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:51 AM ET
PK Subban is the man! He can do it all, I loved him in the postseason. You don't see too many d-men put a team on his back and carry them, very often these days.

But PK was an total beast vs The Bruins in the playoffs. Not only didnt he back down from an antagonistic Bruins squad & some racist fans, he put em down!!

Sabre fans should be able to appreciate the magnitude of such a feat... remembering a night when the Milan Lucic steamrolled our franchise goaltender, broke the spirit of this organization, & ultimately signified the beginning of the end for The Ruff/Regier Era in Sabres history.

you're not getting an allstar defenseman for a soft 2nd or 3rd line center and an underachieving defenseman who hasn't come close to his rookie year. That's like me suggesting we could offer Bailey, Grabner and a pick. It's not even in the same ballpark.


MTL is really lucky to be able to build around a guy like that, & with the salary cap going up... Having a few big contracts will soon become the norm for every club.

To bad for us Myers wasn't more like Subban. PK just works (as my franchise player, as my captain, as my #1 d-man, PP qb), pay the man.

Myers & Hodgson to MTL, for PK!!

Ill pay Subban $9 mill/yr & he'll be happier than all get out. Guys like Subban, Towes, Doughty.. These guys are what the modern NHL is all about!!

- SuperCat

SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jul 6 @ 11:02 AM ET
you're not getting an allstar defenseman for a soft 2nd or 3rd line center and an underachieving defenseman who hasn't come close to his rookie year. That's like me suggesting we could offer Bailey, Grabner and a pick. It's not even in the same ballpark.

[quote=Isles_since_6]





Fair enuf.


Myers, Ennis, and the NYI 1st rd pick in '15 for PK?

- a NHL ready replacement blueliner
- a top 6 forward
- a 1st rd pick in a highly anticipated draft
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:22 AM ET
Fair enuf.


Myers, Ennis, and the NYI 1st rd pick in '15 for PK?

- a NHL ready replacement blueliner
- a top 6 forward
- a 1st rd pick in a highly anticipated draft

- SuperCat


My phone fails at responding today, but Myers and the Sabres 1st,along with Ristolanin is about where Montreal starts listening. Ennis isn't a top six on a good team and the isles with a top 4 dman could make the playoffs. PK is the dominant offensive defenseman in the league, you're not getting him for less
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jul 6 @ 12:16 PM ET
Fair enuf.


Myers, Ennis, and the NYI 1st rd pick in '15 for PK?

- a NHL ready replacement blueliner
- a top 6 forward
- a 1st rd pick in a highly anticipated draft

- SuperCat


Just quit with the nonsense . You are overpaying . Wait till Myers has talent around him.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 6 @ 1:49 PM ET
Just quit with the nonsense . You are overpaying . Wait till Myers has talent around him.
- Maximum Signal

His proposal is an Overpayment for subban? Maybe for Malcolm subban. Stars make their linemates better, see JT and Boyes, Moulson, PA. If Myers was that good he'd be able to carry a partner. He's not there yet
Dalhabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Transtrand, SWE
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
Fair enuf.


Myers, Ennis, and the NYI 1st rd pick in '15 for PK?

- a NHL ready replacement blueliner
- a top 6 forward
- a 1st rd pick in a highly anticipated draft

- SuperCat


At the moment Id say no but at the deadline if we see the Islanders on the bottom of the standings Id do this deal without much thought.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jul 6 @ 3:47 PM ET
His proposal is an Overpayment for subban? Maybe for Malcolm subban. Stars make their linemates better, see JT and Boyes, Moulson, PA. If Myers was that good he'd be able to carry a partner. He's not there yet
- Isles_since_6


Massive overpayment.


Jebus_Price
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 05.09.2014

Jul 6 @ 4:57 PM ET
Massive overpayment.



- Maximum Signal


Massive troll

Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jul 6 @ 5:29 PM ET
Massive troll


- Jebus_Price


Speaking or trolls - How is Life ?

MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Jul 6 @ 7:36 PM ET
I love Subby-doo! The guy is solid and arguably the best d-man in the league. MTL is very luck to have this kid playing there to be sure. But.....they should trade him.

Let me explain. He will get 8x8 and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. But let's be honest...these type of contracts very seldom work out...for either party. We have seen over and over this past year or two. Many of these so-called cap-friendly long-term contracts are anything but friendly in any sense of the word. The players almost always fail to live up to them and the teams seem to suffocate under them and the fans get to experience massive fits of frustration and anger because their new messiah is not singlehandedly resurrecting their team to achieve the ultimate glory known as the Stanley Cup. Then, after a few years of gurgling and flailing as they drown, the buyout talk begins. Hey, I'm not making this up. Proof is in the pudding folks.

Therein lies the answer for MTL. Marc Bergevin should be calling every team in the league to gauge the return for a guy like Subban. The first team he should call....The Edmonton Oilers. Would it be reasonable to expect that EDM might be willing to part with one of their top three (Nuge, Hall or Eberle), Yakupov, Marincin and/or Klefbom + their 1st next year? Maybe MTL has to include another piece to make it work?

Two things enter the thought process here......EDM is dying for a personality like Subban on their backend. Throw in that he is as good as he is and the fact that the fans are rabid and ready to revolt....it makes sense for the Oil. Instant win for them on the ice and at the gate. Now, as for Montreal, they have every right to expect to get a kings ransom for a player like Subban. And a kings ransom they would get. Any deal that would involve Subban would have to be a doozy.....a real blockbuster.

The reason for the trade.....Subban has, is and will continue to be a major distraction for the Montreal Canadiens. Now, consider if he does fail to live up to this new contract. The distraction level now jumps through the roof. Not a good situation either way.

Sadly, in the end though, Marc Bergevin will likely stray far away from incurring the unholy wrath of the Montreal fan base and just sign Subban to a deal for the all the ages. After all, it is the safe thing to do really. Not necessarily the right thing or the best move for the team at large, but safest none-the-less.

But if you ask me....I'd trade him because in 2-3 years the talk will be all about whether or not to buy Subban out. Just wait and see.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
Leon Draisaitl will be mauled by a bear while in the Rockies...
massa_3
Edmonton Oilers
Location: #shutupJB
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 7 @ 1:34 PM ET


Marc Bergevin should be calling every team in the league to gauge the return for a guy like Subban. The first team he should call....The Edmonton Oilers. Would it be reasonable to expect that EDM might be willing to part with one of their top three (Nuge, Hall or Eberle), Yakupov, Marincin and/or Klefbom + their 1st next year? Maybe MTL has to include another piece to make it work?

Two things enter the thought process here......EDM is dying for a personality like Subban on their backend. Throw in that he is as good as he is and the fact that the fans are rabid and ready to revolt....it makes sense for the Oil. Instant win for them on the ice and at the gate. Now, as for Montreal, they have every right to expect to get a kings ransom for a player like Subban. And a kings ransom they would get. Any deal that would involve Subban would have to be a doozy.....a real blockbuster.

The reason for the trade.....Subban has, is and will continue to be a major distraction for the Montreal Canadiens. Now, consider if he does fail to live up to this new contract. The distraction level now jumps through the roof. Not a good situation either way.

- MadManPaddy


While i don't disagree with most of what you say, and i would love PK on the oilers, based on the oilers depth chart i don't see them willing to trade nuge at this point without having another 1C available. i also doubt they are willing to trade hall either, no much the face of the franchise in my opinion and too dominant.... Eberle on the other hand would likely be available as would yakupov, but not both. that would deplete the RW and leave teddy purcell.

i would forsee a trade similar to something like this being proposed by edmonton. it may not fit MTL's wish list but its what EDM would reasonably be willing to part with

Yakupov
klefbom
petry
1st in 2015
massa_3
Edmonton Oilers
Location: #shutupJB
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 7 @ 1:37 PM ET
Leon Draisaitl will be mauled by a bear while in the Rockies...
- jochfr


maybe he will stumble upon the elusive man-bear-pig.... Al Gore wasn't able to kill him
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Jul 7 @ 7:48 PM ET
I love Subby-doo! The guy is solid and arguably the best d-man in the league. MTL is very luck to have this kid playing there to be sure. But.....they should trade him.

Let me explain. He will get 8x8 and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. But let's be honest...these type of contracts very seldom work out...for either party. We have seen over and over this past year or two. Many of these so-called cap-friendly long-term contracts are anything but friendly in any sense of the word. The players almost always fail to live up to them and the teams seem to suffocate under them and the fans get to experience massive fits of frustration and anger because their new messiah is not singlehandedly resurrecting their team to achieve the ultimate glory known as the Stanley Cup. Then, after a few years of gurgling and flailing as they drown, the buyout talk begins. Hey, I'm not making this up. Proof is in the pudding folks.

Therein lies the answer for MTL. Marc Bergevin should be calling every team in the league to gauge the return for a guy like Subban. The first team he should call....The Edmonton Oilers. Would it be reasonable to expect that EDM might be willing to part with one of their top three (Nuge, Hall or Eberle), Yakupov, Marincin and/or Klefbom + their 1st next year? Maybe MTL has to include another piece to make it work?

Two things enter the thought process here......EDM is dying for a personality like Subban on their backend. Throw in that he is as good as he is and the fact that the fans are rabid and ready to revolt....it makes sense for the Oil. Instant win for them on the ice and at the gate. Now, as for Montreal, they have every right to expect to get a kings ransom for a player like Subban. And a kings ransom they would get. Any deal that would involve Subban would have to be a doozy.....a real blockbuster.

The reason for the trade.....Subban has, is and will continue to be a major distraction for the Montreal Canadiens. Now, consider if he does fail to live up to this new contract. The distraction level now jumps through the roof. Not a good situation either way.

Sadly, in the end though, Marc Bergevin will likely stray far away from incurring the unholy wrath of the Montreal fan base and just sign Subban to a deal for the all the ages. After all, it is the safe thing to do really. Not necessarily the right thing or the best move for the team at large, but safest none-the-less.

But if you ask me....I'd trade him because in 2-3 years the talk will be all about whether or not to buy Subban out. Just wait and see.

- MadManPaddy


Arguably top 5..
MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Jul 7 @ 7:55 PM ET
Arguably top 5..
- forbetterorWORSE


Give the kid his due....easy top 5...still arguably the best.
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Jul 7 @ 7:58 PM ET
Give the kid his due....easy top 5...still arguably the best.
- MadManPaddy

Alright top 5 for sure, but no way I take him over Doughty, Weber, or Petriangelo. Id put him with Keith , Karlsson, and Suter.
MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Jul 7 @ 8:00 PM ET
While i don't disagree with most of what you say, and i would love PK on the oilers, based on the oilers depth chart i don't see them willing to trade nuge at this point without having another 1C available. i also doubt they are willing to trade hall either, no much the face of the franchise in my opinion and too dominant.... Eberle on the other hand would likely be available as would yakupov, but not both. that would deplete the RW and leave teddy purcell.

i would forsee a trade similar to something like this being proposed by edmonton. it may not fit MTL's wish list but its what EDM would reasonably be willing to part with

Yakupov
klefbom
petry
1st in 2015

- massa_3


Sure, I'd agree that EDM would lowball but this deal would only be the starting point. One of the top three would have to be included as well. I get this is all for not but good fodder just the same.
MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Jul 7 @ 8:01 PM ET
Alright top 5 for sure, but no way I take him over Doughty, Weber, or Petriangelo. Id put him with Keith , Karlsson, and Suter.
- forbetterorWORSE


Glad we've come to a resolution on this!

Seriously though...all good d-men for sure.
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Jul 7 @ 8:03 PM ET
Glad we've come to a resolution on this!

Seriously though...all good d-men for sure.

- MadManPaddy

Yes agreed, Ive grown to dislike Subban, for obvious regional reasons, which makes me not always give him his due. Hell of a player though
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 7 @ 10:49 PM ET
maybe he will stumble upon the elusive man-bear-pig.... Al Gore wasn't able to kill him
- massa_3

He's super cereal!
massa_3
Edmonton Oilers
Location: #shutupJB
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:19 AM ET
He's super cereal!
- jochfr


Thank you for getting this