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spatso
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Good evaluation.
Not a fan of Sather but there is some truth to his argument. Had the Rangers gone out in the first round some of these guys would be quick to resign at a lower rate.
Will Sather be able to get through this without moving at least one more big contact? |
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KreiderBomb
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo Joined: 06.02.2014
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Couldn't have said it better Jan, it was a nice run...for the players, not Sather
These prospects better acclimate themselves quickly because it looks like they're here, we could see a 4th line of Carcillo-Lindberg-Fast which doesn't scream forecheck pressure and then what Kristo in for Pouliot? Sather must have failed chemistry when he was younger |
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KreiderBomb
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo Joined: 06.02.2014
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Good evaluation.
Not a fan of Sather but there is some truth to his argument. Had the Rangers gone out in the first round some of these guys would be quick to resign at a lower rate.
Will Sather be able to get through this without moving at least one more big contact? - spatso
He won't have to move anymore contracts, all the UFA's are gone starting tomorrow, nice job Slats! |
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aoh718
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 06.09.2014
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Good evaluation.
Not a fan of Sather but there is some truth to his argument. Had the Rangers gone out in the first round some of these guys would be quick to resign at a lower rate.
Will Sather be able to get through this without moving at least one more big contact? - spatso
There is no one left to move. Unless you plan on moving Rick Nash that is really the only option. Can't really move St. Louis gave up way too much for him. You're not going to get rid of Stepan or Hagelin considering their value and their minimal cap hit. Girardi, Mcdonagh, and Staal are basically untouchable especially for what they make. Kevin Klein you could move but for what purpose at a 2.9mil cap hit. |
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http://www.capgeek.com/armchair-gm/roster/30543
Zuccarello and Brassard may get a few 100k more, but it's very doable to sign a few key guys back. This assumes Fast and Miller make the roster, and I recalled Allen as a 7th D-man. But we still have ~2M left for a free agent winger/center.
IDK how I'd feel paying Boyle 3M though. That money would better be used if we signed a 4th line winger for <1M and then pooled the extra 2M we'd save with the additional 2M we already have to get 1 solid top 6 center/winger instead.
Stralman is obviously a goner in my situation as well. |
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As easy as it is to blame Sather, we also need to realize that whatever he's doing (or not doing for that matter) is not just his decision. He's not sitting there alone making and executing the offseason plan based on what he alone wants. Whatever the Rangers offseason plan is was agreed upon in consensus between him, Gorton, AV, and I'd even say Gordie Clark and some other key members of the coaching staff and executives. It's easy to make Sather the scapegoat, but do you really think if AV told Sather to keep Dominic Moore that Moore would still be an UFA right now given his reported demands?
Sather is the face that carries out the plans, but he's certainly not the one that sits there by himself in a locked room making them without any input from the coaches or other executives. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Chris Johnston @reporterchris · 7h
Don't be surprised if the wheeling-and-dealing TBLightning go after veteran centre Dominic Moore. |
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Slimtj100
New York Rangers |
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Shane O'Brien would be a decent trade target. Only makes 2 mill. Good 3rd pair guy
Trade Moore for a winger or RH d |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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There are definitely teams in worse shape than us, but this cap situation is the reason why when some of you guys were going nuts talking about trying to get Eric Staal and his 8.25 million cap hit in here I was like y'all crazy.
Every year I wonder if the Rangers are finally going to be the target of an offer sheet.
Is this the year? |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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There are definitely teams in worse shape than us, but this cap situation is the reason why when some of you guys were going nuts talking about trying to get Eric Staal and his 8.25 million cap hit in here I was like y'all crazy.
Every year I wonder if the Rangers are finally going to be the target of an offer sheet.
Is this the year? - jimbro83
I honestly can't get a feel on how this free agency period is gonna play out. It is crazy to think but this roster could have a lot of turnover again. |
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Chris Johnston @reporterchris · 7h
Don't be surprised if the wheeling-and-dealing TBLightning go after veteran centre Dominic Moore. - jimbro83
Yup, Wrote that in the blog |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Yup, Wrote that in the blog - airjan23
I know they traded Dorsett to clear up cap space...but maybe his 1.6 million dollar cap hit won't look to bad for what he brought to the team and what they are about to lose to teams that are going to overpay for the rest of that line. The kids better be ready to fill in this lineup. |
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There are definitely teams in worse shape than us, but this cap situation is the reason why when some of you guys were going nuts talking about trying to get Eric Staal and his 8.25 million cap hit in here I was like y'all crazy.
Every year I wonder if the Rangers are finally going to be the target of an offer sheet.
Is this the year? - jimbro83
I wonder if stevie y is about to throw subban an offer sheet. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Yup, Wrote that in the blog - airjan23
I know for a fact that Zuccarello and his agent would have taken a two year deal for 1.5 million each season last summer and Slats squeezed him on a one year 1.15 million.
Now the chicken is coming home to roost, or however the saying goes. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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I wonder if stevie y is about to throw subban an offer sheet. - rangerdanger94
I don't think so. I still think they have a pretty high cap, and they have to consider resigning Bishop after this summer and Stamkos after next year. |
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I know for a fact that Zuccarello and his agent would have taken a two year deal for 1.5 million each season last summer and Slats squeezed him on a one year 1.15 million.
Now the chicken is coming home to roost, or however the saying goes. - jimbro83
He wouldve become an ufa after next season though correct? And the few 100k extra would've made signing stepan even more problematic. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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He wouldve become an ufa after next season though correct? And the few 100k extra would've made signing stepan even more problematic. - rangerdanger94
even so, to have Zuccarello this year coming up at 1.5 million would have been fantastic |
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even so, to have Zuccarello this year coming up at 1.5 million would have been fantastic - jimbro83
Would've been a bargain, but them we're looking at potentially 5M+ to retain him long term with his ufa status rather than 4.5M due to his rfa status. Maybe sather can keep zucc and brass to sign for 4M? He always seems to pull something out of his ass when it comes to rfas. |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Would've been a bargain, but them we're looking at potentially 5M+ to retain him long term with his ufa status rather than 4.5M due to his rfa status. Maybe sather can keep zucc and brass to sign for 4M? He always seems to pull something out of his ass when it comes to rfas. - rangerdanger94
I guess it all would have depended on what kind of season Zucc has next year. Coming off a year where he lead the Rangers in scoring, yea that isn't helping the Rangers in their negotiations this summer. |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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Agree totally Jan. I hate that this team goes through so much upheavel every offseason, enough! It took the team until the playoffs to really finally get it together, same as the year before before flaming out in the Boston series.
Our entire 4th line seems to be destined to be gone. Dom Moore actually might be the biggest loss in my opinion. It sucks having so much money tied up in a few players. |
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I guess it all would have depended on what kind of season Zucc has next year. Coming off a year where he lead the Rangers in scoring, yea that isn't helping the Rangers in their negotiations this summer. - TPC
True, but sathers leverage right now is his rfa status and only 1 good season. Imagine how facked we would be if he had back to back great seasons and ufa status |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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I know for a fact that Zuccarello and his agent would have taken a two year deal for 1.5 million each season last summer and Slats squeezed him on a one year 1.15 million.
Now the chicken is coming home to roost, or however the saying goes. - jimbro83
Is that you Yogi? |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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True, but sathers leverage right now is his rfa status and only 1 good season. Imagine how facked we would be if he had back to back great seasons and ufa status - rangerdanger94
Yea either way it sucks lol. i really don't know how they are gonna pull this off. I want a lot of the same team back but that looks like a pipe dream right now |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Agree totally Jan. I hate that this team goes through so much upheavel every offseason, enough! It took the team until the playoffs to really finally get it together, same as the year before before flaming out in the Boston series.
Our entire 4th line seems to be destined to be gone. Dom Moore actually might be the biggest loss in my opinion. It sucks having so much money tied up in a few players. - B2B76
Imagine if they actually decided to keep Richards? |
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