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Travis Yost
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.26.2010

May 16 @ 2:07 PM ET
Travis Yost: End the Chris Neil Power-Play Experiment
amanicom
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 09.30.2013

May 16 @ 2:17 PM ET
I could maybe live with Neil screening on the plowerplay if he was stripped of an equivalent of even-strength icetime.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 16 @ 2:18 PM ET
Kill Chris Neil
- Travis Yost


ftfy
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

May 16 @ 2:28 PM ET
ftfy
- jmatchett383


stfu
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 2:44 PM ET
Clarkson for Neil?
Trilla
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 06.02.2013

May 16 @ 3:04 PM ET
Travis Yost: End the Chris Neil Power-Play Experiment
- Travis Yost


"It's paul macs job to uh, not tap him"

Lol that was hilarious

Definately agree..it seems stache has put him on the pp when our guys werent producing..or just pissed at them for some reason (mainly this point)

I'm curious as to why mac has never tried using 4 forwards and 1 defender on the pp? Always thought it was a good tactic..or any coach for that matter..

Trilla
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 06.02.2013

May 16 @ 3:08 PM ET
Clarkson for Neil?
- senstroll


Noooooooo..

We can't accept your..heart and soul guy

And that heart and soul contract


Think Neil had more points then Clarkson this season

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
stfu
- Not_Yan


get out of here with your wit and originality.
PtotheY
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 16 @ 3:35 PM ET
Clarkson for Neil?
- senstroll


LOL! don't you ever want to get rid of Clarkson...experiment gone bad in TO?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 3:35 PM ET
Noooooooo..

We can't accept your..heart and soul guy

And that heart and soul contract


Think Neil had more points then Clarkson this season

- Trilla


Craig Anderson probably had more points than Clarkson
Stringer74
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Bozak is better than Turris" - prock, ON
Joined: 02.04.2011

May 16 @ 3:58 PM ET
Travis Yost: End the Chris Neil Power-Play Experiment
- Travis Yost


If only we had someone who was a pest in the crease and drove possession. Someone like Cory Conacher.
sensfanpei
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 06.01.2013

May 16 @ 5:13 PM ET
"It's paul macs job to uh, not tap him"

Lol that was hilarious

Definately agree..it seems stache has put him on the pp when our guys werent producing..or just pissed at them for some reason (mainly this point)

I'm curious as to why mac has never tried using 4 forwards and 1 defender on the pp? Always thought it was a good tactic..or any coach for that matter..

- Trilla


He actually did this quite a bit this past season. Putting the Turris line out with Spezza and karlsson
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

May 16 @ 6:19 PM ET
Better yet, end the Chris Neil being an Ottawa Senator experiment.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

May 16 @ 6:39 PM ET
Better yet, end the Chris Neil being an Ottawa Senator experiment.
- TommyDeVito

This.

Apparently moving part of the "old" leadership that has some value to the team currently (Spezza) is priority over moving the "old" leadership who have zero value (Neil and Phillips). I don't care if you'd get squat for them time to move on. Maybe don't sign them to 2 year deals either...
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

May 16 @ 6:56 PM ET
This.

Apparently moving part of the "old" leadership that has some value to the team currently (Spezza) is priority over moving the "old" leadership who have zero value (Neil and Phillips). I don't care if you'd get squat for them time to move on. Maybe don't sign them to 2 year deals either...

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Rusty Rig to the scrap heap (e4)

(with all due respect to all the fine service he's done for the team, community, etc. )
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

May 16 @ 7:08 PM ET
Rusty Rig to the scrap heap (e4)

(with all due respect to all the fine service he's done for the team, community, etc. )

- Mr_Clean

Both deserve a lot of respect for what they have done for the Sens and the city of Ottawa. From a hockey stand point, it's just foolish to keep them on going forward. Maybe they will both bounce back, but that's more wishful thinking than hoping Cowen bounces back.

To me it's backward to move on from Alfie and Spezza but hang on for dear life to Neil and Phillips.

Phillips number will most likely be retired and I will be there to give him a standing O. Neil will always be a fan favourite. But their time isn't now.
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

May 16 @ 7:09 PM ET
This.

Apparently moving part of the "old" leadership that has some value to the team currently (Spezza) is priority over moving the "old" leadership who have zero value (Neil and Phillips). I don't care if you'd get squat for them time to move on. Maybe don't sign them to 2 year deals either...

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


I disagree, I think Neil can still offer something to this club. A physical and competitive edge is hard to find in today's league. That being said his minutes should be cut immensely. Someone like Greening on the other hand, has to go or be bought out. Phillips can be a 7th defender until traded or retired.
Trilla
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 06.02.2013

May 16 @ 7:38 PM ET
I disagree, I think Neil can still offer something to this club. A physical and competitive edge is hard to find in today's league. That being said his minutes should be cut immensely. Someone like Greening on the other hand, has to go or be bought out. Phillips can be a 7th defender until traded or retired.
- TheCalSen



I agree, Neil adds toughness to this team and he stands up for the other guys.

Even though he sucks, he's had games where he brought energy to the team

Don't think we can say the same about greening.
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

May 16 @ 8:15 PM ET
I disagree, I think Neil can still offer something to this club. A physical and competitive edge is hard to find in today's league. That being said his minutes should be cut immensely. Someone like Greening on the other hand, has to go or be bought out. Phillips can be a 7th defender until traded or retired.
- TheCalSen


The issue is that Neil's role should be like Kassian's role was this year, but he's being paid 2 million dollars because he basically has tenure with the team.

That role should cost you 600-700k, not 2+ million per year.

Neil hasn't been able to provide offense for a few years now, this isn't 2008 anymore. His time is past, time to trade him to another team that has an inflated sense of his value.
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

May 16 @ 8:36 PM ET
The issue is that Neil's role should be like Kassian's role was this year, but he's being paid 2 million dollars because he basically has tenure with the team.

That role should cost you 600-700k, not 2+ million per year.

Neil hasn't been able to provide offense for a few years now, this isn't 2008 anymore. His time is past, time to trade him to another team that has an inflated sense of his value.

- TommyDeVito


Or even a team with a fairly accurate sense of his role as a limited-minute, 4th line, "character" guy and agitator.

They can have him for a bag of pucks, and a lot of teams would take him for that who aren't faced with a budget crunch.
hemlock34
Location: None of your business
Joined: 06.19.2007

May 16 @ 8:37 PM ET
Noooooooo..

We can't accept your..heart and soul guy

And that heart and soul contract


Think Neil had more points then Clarkson this season

- Trilla


He did. 14 for Neil, 11 for Clarkson.

The more comical statistic regarding Clarkson is that his number of games missed due to suspension (12) outnumbers his point total (11) for the season.

Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

May 16 @ 8:48 PM ET
The issue is that Neil's role should be like Kassian's role was this year, but he's being paid 2 million dollars because he basically has tenure with the team.

That role should cost you 600-700k, not 2+ million per year.

Neil hasn't been able to provide offense for a few years now, this isn't 2008 anymore. His time is past, time to trade him to another team that has an inflated sense of his value.

- TommyDeVito

Agreed. He has value, but it only shows in 5-10 games now. He's not a guy you can roll in your top 9. The Sens are treating him like they did 5-6 years ago. He isn't what he used to be. I don't think anyone can argue that.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

May 16 @ 9:24 PM ET
The issue is that Neil's role should be like Kassian's role was this year, but he's being paid 2 million dollars because he basically has tenure with the team.

That role should cost you 600-700k, not 2+ million per year.

Neil hasn't been able to provide offense for a few years now, this isn't 2008 anymore. His time is past, time to trade him to another team that has an inflated sense of his value.

- TommyDeVito

I don't think many teams will be trading for an older guy who can fight every now and then that gets paid close to 2 million for 2 more years. Most teams can call a guy like that up from their farm team.
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

May 16 @ 9:25 PM ET
Agreed. He has value, but it only shows in 5-10 games now. He's not a guy you can roll in your top 9. The Sens are treating him like they did 5-6 years ago. He isn't what he used to be. I don't think anyone can argue that.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


No one in their right mind would think Neil is capable of being in the top 9; however, if a team isn't physical, come playoffs they will be butchered. The bottom line is that in the NHL the team with the physical edge wins it all. One very familiar example was the Sens cup run during the 06-07 year. That team could hit; that's how they reached the finals (unfortunately they got the taste of their own medicine against the Mighty Ducks).
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

May 16 @ 9:28 PM ET
I don't think many teams will be trading for an older guy who can fight every now and then that gets paid close to 2 million for 2 more years. Most teams can call a guy like that up from their farm team.
- cburgess


1. Neil making 2mil isn't a problem IMO; someone like Greening is making more and producing in a hockey stand point waaay less.

2. I would love to see an NHL team bring up a guy who can take down giants like Chara, and at the same time have the ability to get the team motivated and pumped up. IMO some guy from the AHL acting like a hero will be made of fun of by his NHL teammates.
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