Eklund
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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They do get paid....in tuition.
"They get 'some" schooling but nowhere near a college degree."
You might want to look into that one..... |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: dicky seamus, PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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Should college players get paid?
Yes. |
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Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I lost a bet, NY Joined: 07.05.2007
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They do get paid....in tuition. - The-O-G
What about this kids who suffer brutal life changing injuries and then get their scholarship and essentially their life taken away? Happens in every sports across the country every year. Many of them actually receive a bill in the mail. |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: dicky seamus, PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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They do get paid....in tuition. - The-O-G
That's a lot less than they earn for the institutions they play for. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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What about this kids who suffer brutal life changing injuries and then get their scholarship and essentially their life taken away? Happens in every sports across the country every year. Many of them actually receive a bill in the mail. - Buffalo-Sabres
Part of life! |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: dicky seamus, PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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Part of life! - The-O-G
So is earning money for your work. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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That's a lot less than they earn for the institution they play for. - wolfhounds
Probably not......I don't think there are many hockey programs that make that much money. |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: dicky seamus, PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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Probably not......I don't think there are many hockey programs that make that much money. - The-O-G
Agreed. But this applies to the NCAA as a whole. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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So is earning money for your work. - wolfhounds
Earning scholarships through sports opens many doors for kids that otherwise wouldn't have a sniff at that opportunity. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Agreed. But this applies to the NCAA as a whole. - wolfhounds
Well I think Ek's main question was "Should US College Hockey Players get paid" |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: dicky seamus, PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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Earning scholarships through sports opens many doors for kids that otherwise wouldn't have a sniff at that opportunity. - The-O-G
Agreed. How about a profit-sharing agreement? |
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Eklund
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Joined: 09.15.2005
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They do get paid....in tuition.
"They get 'some" schooling but nowhere near a college degree."
You might want to look into that one..... - The-O-G
you tell me. I was asking around about the schooling and tutoring kids in Canadian juniors and couldn't find anywhere they earned college degrees..is there an example of where they do? I would be glad to change this.. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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It's an interesting debate. In a whole college athletes shouldn't get paid. The volleyball, soccer, tennis etc sports don't make the schools money. Hockey is a very expensive sport as it is just to field a program. Now the big money sports for colleges are football and basketball. The amount of money they make those schools especially the big time programs are part of the reason those schools can add all of the other sports programs. If you have to pay the players I would bet there would be a drop of sports programs from almost every single school. |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: dicky seamus, PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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Well I think Ek's main question was "Should US College Hockey Players get paid" - The-O-G
Yup, but a ruling can't be applied to one sport only. |
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twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.01.2010
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If I"m Colleges, and this goes through, I do the following..
1) Hire them as independent contractors. They'd have to pay their own taxes, medical and all other expenses including housing and food.
2) Sign a contract for 2 years. If they want to leave early, they must pay an opt out fee. If the school doesn't want them, they get a buyout fee. Bad behavior gets them booted off the team, College to get reimbursed for money paid to them.
3) If they give away any part of the uniform, they must reimburse the school.
4) They must pay 50,000 U.S. tuition fees minimum, per year.
So many other things that would be added that they'd make almost nothing!
And what would stop one of these kids from getting hurt and filing a Workers Comp claim? I can go on and on. I love how this WASN'T very well thought out by college kids. And getting a UNION? LMAO. Union's are a sure fire way to strike and lose jobs! I won't work at a place that has a union
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macadamia31
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: marquette, MI Joined: 08.21.2006
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nonsense... just what we need... college tuition to increase some more...
you make a choice to play sports, if you're good enough you get paid... if not, oh well... better have been paying attention. Risk/reward is a part of life. NCAA athletes are not special.
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Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I lost a bet, NY Joined: 07.05.2007
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Probably not......I don't think there are many hockey programs that make that much money. - The-O-G
No they don't. But the football and basketball programs pull in as much or more than their professional counterparts. Its insane to think these colleges pull in 66 million in football revenue and only have to pay the coaches. The only reason hockey, or any other sports get in the discussion is because they are all NCAA athletes. |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: dicky seamus, PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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It's an interesting debate. In a whole college athletes shouldn't get paid. The volleyball, soccer, tennis etc sports don't make the schools money. Hockey is a very expensive sport as it is just to field a program. Now the big money sports for colleges are football and basketball. The amount of money they make those schools especially the big time programs are part of the reason those schools can add all of the other sports programs. If you have to pay the players I would bet there would be a drop of sports programs from almost every single school. - Stripes77
Good points, but debatable, of course. College tuition should pay for the athletic programs, especially considering the steady and aggressive growth of said tuition. Further, the amount of money the NCAA makes from bowl games, march madness and other, misc. sporting events should far outweigh the cost of keeping the doors open to the ice rink. |
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Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I lost a bet, NY Joined: 07.05.2007
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nonsense... just what we need... college tuition to increase some more...
you make a choice to play sports, if you're good enough you get paid... if not, oh well... better have been paying attention. Risk/reward is a part of life. NCAA athletes are not special. - macadamia31
But they can make video games with these people in them, they can sell tickets for hundreds of dollars to see them and sell their jerseys.
In the case of football specifically its a monopoly because the NFL doesn't allow players under the age of 21. So if you want to have a shot at an NFL you have to play in the NCAA. There is no farm system. |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: dicky seamus, PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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nonsense... just what we need... college tuition to increase some more...
you make a choice to play sports, if you're good enough you get paid... if not, oh well... better have been paying attention. Risk/reward is a part of life. NCAA athletes are not special. - macadamia31
Unsupported conclusion.
College tuition has been increasing steadily at a rate far surpassing inflation since the 90s at least, and that's with all the money they don't have to share with the athletes who earn it. |
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Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 06.03.2008
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They do get paid....in tuition.
"They get 'some" schooling but nowhere near a college degree."
You might want to look into that one..... - The-O-G
Big time
JoƩ juneau got a degree in aerospace technologies.
George Parros got a degree at Princeton in acounting.
http://bleacherreport.com...-skills-and-smarts/page/2 |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: dicky seamus, PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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If I"m Colleges, and this goes through, I do the following..
1) Hire them as independent contractors. They'd have to pay their own taxes, medical and all other expenses including housing and food.
2) Sign a contract for 2 years. If they want to leave early, they must pay an opt out fee. If the school doesn't want them, they get a buyout fee. Bad behavior gets them booted off the team, College to get reimbursed for money paid to them.
3) If they give away any part of the uniform, they must reimburse the school.
4) They must pay 50,000 U.S. tuition fees minimum, per year.
So many other things that would be added that they'd make almost nothing!
And what would stop one of these kids from getting hurt and filing a Workers Comp claim? I can go on and on. I love how this WASN'T very well thought out by college kids. And getting a UNION? LMAO. Union's are a sure fire way to strike and lose jobs! I won't work at a place that has a union - twpguy
The athletes? I daresay the college would no longer be a college and would instead be a sporting franchise. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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you tell me. I was asking around about the schooling and tutoring kids in Canadian juniors and couldn't find anywhere they earned college degrees..is there an example of where they do? I would be glad to change this.. - Eklund
For every year played in the CHL each player earns 1 full year paid tuition to any Canadian College/University. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Good points, but debatable, of course. College tuition should pay for the athletic programs, especially considering the steady and aggressive growth of said tuition. Further, the amount of money the NCAA makes from bowl games, march madness and other, misc. sporting events should far outweigh the cost of keeping the doors open to the ice rink. - wolfhounds
The NCAA makes money from every bowl game but the schools themselves only make money if they make it to a bowl game or tournament game etc. If you break it down by expense you wouldn't believe how much money goes into the game before they open the doors.
I know that a school's hockey team around here budget for officials is $40,000. That's just for the officials for the home games for a hockey team. Sports do cost schools a ton of money and not all of them make money. |
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