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Ryan Garner
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 10.26.2006

Jan 22 @ 8:25 PM ET
Ryan Garner: Katz Boss: The Lowe Fiasco and Kassian Connection
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 22 @ 8:30 PM ET
Kassian
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jan 22 @ 8:34 PM ET
Kass, best player on the ice last night
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 22 @ 8:35 PM ET
The team sucks, so we gotta be better in that category. The not sucking category
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 8:39 PM ET
who gives an eff about supposed deeper meaning or farther reaching effects?
i wouldnt have even cared if he actually woulda worked gazdic. just that he (kassian) had the stones to answer for his actions.


I knew kassian was chirpy and he tries to get under the oppositions skin etc. that's all good.
but i didnt realize he was such a vag. didnt have much respect for him after he chirped gagner, but now he's just laughable after all his talk and not droppin the mitts

let's call a spade a spade. we can now add coward to his list of douchebag qualities
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 8:46 PM ET
who gives an eff about supposed deeper meaning or farther reaching effects?
i wouldnt have even cared if he actually woulda worked gazdic. just that he (kassian) had the stones to answer for his actions.


I knew kassian was chirpy and he tries to get under the oppositions skin etc. that's all good.
but i didnt realize he was such a vag. didnt have much respect for him after he chirped gagner, but now he's just laughable after all his talk and not droppin the mitts

let's call a spade a spade. we can now add coward to his list of douchebag qualities

- hugefemale dog77


Why didn't anyone challenge him last game? It's been a few games since the incident, move on.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 8:51 PM ET
Why didn't anyone challenge him last game? It's been a few games since the incident, move on.
- Nucker101

ive read this from a few canucks fans. it makes no sense.

for me, it's all about chirping gagner. which was just last game. at the end.

the whole broken jaw thing was brutal, but as careless as it may have been, he clearly didnt mean to.
i dont think he shoulda really been much of a focus the first 2 meetings because of the incident. and for the most part, he wasnt.

but i was truly in shock when he chirped gags about it.
like holy eff!! did he just do that??

so it made sense that this was the game they went after him. and he knew it. and he puzzied out.
nagasadow
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.30.2013

Jan 22 @ 8:55 PM ET
Why didn't anyone challenge him last game? It's been a few games since the incident, move on.
- Nucker101

never we are going to let this fester and boil till it takes over this cities soul.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 8:56 PM ET
never we are going to let this fester and boil till it takes over this cities soul.
- nagasadow

this!!! im doing my part here in van
Jjp202
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 05.26.2013

Jan 22 @ 9:03 PM ET
All the billboards, petitions, campaigns, bumper stickers and paper-bag-adorned heads have only helped turn the Oilers into the laughingstock of the entire league, both on and off the ice.


I don't think the billboards, paper bags, facebook campaign etc.. Have anything to do with it after all how could any franchise that has been dead last or at least near the bottom of the standing for so many years not be a laughingstock?
hunter3333
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NE
Joined: 01.03.2008

Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM ET
Why didn't anyone challenge him last game? It's been a few games since the incident, move on.
- Nucker101

Gazdic tried challenging him twice but Kassian showed his true colors. He has no balls.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 22 @ 9:20 PM ET
Kass, best player on the ice last night
- Whiskey-Tango

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 22 @ 9:25 PM ET
who gives an eff about supposed deeper meaning or farther reaching effects?
i wouldnt have even cared if he actually woulda worked gazdic. just that he (kassian) had the stones to answer for his actions.


I knew kassian was chirpy and he tries to get under the oppositions skin etc. that's all good.
but i didnt realize he was such a vag. didnt have much respect for him after he chirped gagner, but now he's just laughable after all his talk and not droppin the mitts

let's call a spade a spade. we can now add coward to his list of douchebag qualities

- hugefemale dog77

Where does it make sense that 2 nd liners fight 4 th liners.

If Kassian is going to fight Gadzook then Hall fights Sestito?
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Jan 22 @ 9:32 PM ET
Where does it make sense that 2 nd liners fight 4 th liners.

If Kassian is going to fight Gadzook then Hall fights Sestito?

- VANTEL


LOL... Huh?
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jan 22 @ 9:34 PM ET
It is many people's conventional wisdom that a poor team's best chance to rebuild is to become as poor a team as possible and try to build through top draft picks. This is the path the Edmonton Oilers have followed. They have picked first overall in the NHL draft three years in a row netting them Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Nail Yakupov. They have picked up other young talented players in Jordan Eberle, Justin Schultz and Sam Gagner. This rebuild has netted them a team in last place in the West Conference. In fact, that same conventional wisdom that lead to the first rebuild would suggest now is the time to trash the team again and rebuild in exactly the same way that has failed them so far.

While it is true that none of the young players the Edmonton Oilers have picked up are on Hall of Fame tracks. They haven't "hit a home run" with any of their first overall picks - at least not yet. It is still quite possible that one or more of them does project to a Hall of Famer in the future. It is also clear that this route to building a winning team has no guarantees. In fact it appears to be no better than any other method - and possible worse than them.

What is the way to build a winning team today? The top teams today have had to acquire their core at early ages in their career. Most often this occurs through the draft, although good players can come from anywhere. For example, first place Anaheim's top goalie Jonas Hiller was a free agent signee from Europe. There is no excuse to give away talent. There is no excuse to stop looking and tank a team. You need a scouting staff that is good enough to find these players. That is the problem in Edmonton. There isn't any player currently on their roster who makes a significant contribution to their core who was drafted in a later round in the draft. Had Edmonton been able to find players like Brandon Saad and Corey Crawford in Chicago or TJ Oshie in St Louis or countless other players on top teams.

The secret to rebuilding a team is not to tank the team and get top draft picks. It is to rebuild your scouting system and continue to find core players both with your early draft picks and also by finding players elsewhere (such as later in the draft, undrafted free agents etc.). The Edmonton Oiler method of rebuilding their team hasn't worked. They may have been a better team before the process began than they are now six or seven or possibly even eight years into the process.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 22 @ 9:35 PM ET
LOL... Huh?
- OilDerek

Not hard to understand .Oiler fans are upset that Canucks second liner didn't fight your fourth line punk. Where does it make sense in the trade off ?
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 22 @ 9:35 PM ET
Where does it make sense that 2 nd liners fight 4 th liners.

If Kassian is going to fight Gadzook then Hall fights Sestito?

- VANTEL

Don't get me wrong, I understand why Kassian shouldn't have fought last night, but that's just a stupid comparison. Kassian is physical, beaky, has been known to fight a fair deal in the past, and, frankly, should expect to get targetted with how he plays. Hall does none of those things and nor should he. Exaggeration does nothing to drive your point forward.
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Jan 22 @ 9:36 PM ET
Don't get me wrong, I understand why Kassian shouldn't have fought last night, but that's just a stupid comparison. Kassian is physical, beaky, has been known to fight a fair deal in the past, and, frankly, should expect to get targetted with how he plays. Hall does none of those things and nor should he. Exaggeration does nothing to drive your point forward.
- MaximumBone


Exactly...
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Jan 22 @ 9:37 PM ET
Not hard to understand .Oiler fans are upset that Canucks second liner didn't fight your fourth line punk. Where does it make sense in the trade off ?
- VANTEL


See above...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 22 @ 9:37 PM ET
Don't get me wrong, I understand why Kassian shouldn't have fought last night, but that's just a stupid comparison. Kassian is physical, beaky, has been known to fight a fair deal in the past, and, frankly, should expect to get targetted with how he plays. Hall does none of those things and nor should he. Exaggeration does nothing to drive your point forward.
- MaximumBone

Kassian is an agitator . How many agitators fight 4 th liners?

How many 4 th liners has Marchand Cooke or Brown fought?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 22 @ 9:48 PM ET
I'm sure Kassian was told not to fight last night as we've got a lot of injuries, at the very least I'm sure he was told to fight on his own terms - not Edmonton's. Let's get one thing straight, Kassian is not afraid to fight, he's answered the bell many times including Ben Eager. I'm sure he knows and respects Gazdic, he's a tough customer.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jan 22 @ 9:50 PM ET
Kass, best player on the ice last night
- Whiskey-Tango


If by best player you mean chicken poop mother (frank)er, then yes he was the best player last night.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jan 22 @ 9:52 PM ET
Kassian is an agitator . How many agitators fight 4 th liners?

How many 4 th liners has Marchand Cooke or Brown fought?

- VANTEL


In all fairness Cooke's shtick is either kneeing opponents or high hits to the head.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jan 22 @ 9:52 PM ET
I'm sure Kassian was told not to fight last night as we've got a lot of injuries, at the very least I'm sure he was told to fight on his own terms - not Edmonton's. Let's get one thing straight, Kassian is not afraid to fight, he's answered the bell many times including Ben Eager. I'm sure he knows and respects Gazdic, he's a tough customer.
- LeftCoaster

Maybe he was told not to fight, but then quit the chirping. Or chirp and back it up.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jan 22 @ 9:52 PM ET
I'm sure Kassian was told not to fight last night as we've got a lot of injuries, at the very least I'm sure he was told to fight on his own terms - not Edmonton's. Let's get one thing straight, Kassian is not afraid to fight, he's answered the bell many times including Ben Eager. I'm sure he knows and respects Gazdic, he's a tough customer.
- LeftCoaster


That word is not in his vocabulary....
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