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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 19 @ 12:26 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Another Night, Another Comeback
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:44 AM ET
Another game another comeback

Ho hum
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 19 @ 1:03 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Another Night, Another Comeback
- bmeltzer


happy for the win, but this team seems to have a lot of trouble playing a solid 60 minutes. eventually these 3rd period comebacks will stop.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 19 @ 1:07 AM ET
Just to leap on something some the last blog. I can't beleive some of you guys are hoping Torts gets suspended. Dont get me wrong, I can't stand the guy, but Hartley was the classless one here. Starts the 4th line for no apparent reason. Then he stands there silent, ignoring Torts on the bench?Come on, if someone pulled this on Berube and the Flyers you wouldn't stand behind Berube doing the exact same thing? I seem to remember this bunch loving Lavi for getting up on those boards against the Pens...
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 19 @ 1:22 AM ET
Just to leap on something some the last blog. I can't beleive some of you guys are hoping Torts gets suspended. Dont get me wrong, I can't stand the guy, but Hartley was the classless one here. Starts the 4th line for no apparent reason. Then he stands there silent, ignoring Torts on the bench?Come on, if someone pulled this on Berube and the Flyers you wouldn't stand behind Berube doing the exact same thing? I seem to remember this bunch loving Lavi for getting up on those boards against the Pens...
- hereticpride


i've seen a 4th line start a hockey game many times, and never have i seen a brawl like that to start the game. torts didn't have to put out his 4th line. he's a (frank)ing hack.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 19 @ 1:32 AM ET
Just to leap on something some the last blog. I can't beleive some of you guys are hoping Torts gets suspended. Dont get me wrong, I can't stand the guy, but Hartley was the classless one here. Starts the 4th line for no apparent reason. Then he stands there silent, ignoring Torts on the bench?Come on, if someone pulled this on Berube and the Flyers you wouldn't stand behind Berube doing the exact same thing? I seem to remember this bunch loving Lavi for getting up on those boards against the Pens...
- hereticpride


I think the Flyers started the Lappy/Betts/Carcillo line out a few times to start games as well.

Hartley imo did nothing wrong, trying to set the pace of the game. Torts responded, and a brawl happens. So what, it doesn't happen all that often and it makes the game entertaining.

FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Jan 19 @ 1:40 AM ET
happy for the win, but this team seems to have a lot of trouble playing a solid 60 minutes. eventually these 3rd period comebacks will stop.
- hammarby31


To be honest, I would be happy with a solid 40 minutes. Lately we really have been only playing a solid 20.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 19 @ 1:43 AM ET
To be honest, I would be happy with a solid 40 minutes. Lately we really have been only playing a solid 20.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


Im just happy they win at this point. If you kind of lower your expectations with the current crew, it makes games much more fun.

Its all I can ask for, an entertaining game, which they have been providing as of late. Even that Nashville loss, that was some damn good hockey.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 19 @ 4:55 AM ET
The cardiac kids do it again!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 19 @ 5:50 AM ET
Just to leap on something some the last blog. I can't beleive some of you guys are hoping Torts gets suspended. Dont get me wrong, I can't stand the guy, but Hartley was the classless one here. Starts the 4th line for no apparent reason. Then he stands there silent, ignoring Torts on the bench?Come on, if someone pulled this on Berube and the Flyers you wouldn't stand behind Berube doing the exact same thing? I seem to remember this bunch loving Lavi for getting up on those boards against the Pens...
- hereticpride


He's not going to be suspended for who he put on the ice or any chirping from the bench, but when you are caught on camera trying to charge into the opposing teams locker room between periods, well the NHL will most likely respond.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 19 @ 8:16 AM ET
...but Hartley was the classless one here. Starts the 4th line for no apparent reason. Then he stands there silent, ignoring Torts on the bench?Come on...
- hereticpride



That was a masterful tactical move by Hartley... he put Torts between a rock and a hard place, with no good choices either way... he could either lose the respect of the room by ducking Hartley's challenge, or he could risk letting a game between unequal rivals devolve into the kind of mess that we saw, giving the Flames a chance to win.

Torts not only got out-coached, but he completely lost his cool and embarrassed himself. Calgary probably wouldn't have gotten a point on the road without that brawl getting the Canucks completely off their game to start.

Torts is just too easy to bait.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 19 @ 8:24 AM ET
That was a masterful tactical move by Hartley... he put Torts between a rock and a hard place, with no good choices either way... he could either lose the respect of the room by ducking Hartley's challenge, or he could risk letting a game between unequal rivals devolve into the kind of mess that we saw, giving the Flames a chance to win.

Torts not only got out-coached, but he completely lost his cool and embarrassed himself. Calgary probably wouldn't have gotten a point on the road without that brawl getting the Canucks completely off their game to start.

Torts is just too easy to bait.

- Tomahawk




Tortorella is a clown.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 19 @ 9:26 AM ET
That was a masterful tactical move by Hartley... he put Torts between a rock and a hard place, with no good choices either way... he could either lose the respect of the room by ducking Hartley's challenge, or he could risk letting a game between unequal rivals devolve into the kind of mess that we saw, giving the Flames a chance to win.

Torts not only got out-coached, but he completely lost his cool and embarrassed himself. Calgary probably wouldn't have gotten a point on the road without that brawl getting the Canucks completely off their game to start.

Torts is just too easy to bait.

- Tomahawk


He always has been...but so is Ken Hitchcock, with that and injuries the reason this franchise's best team of the modern era was left empty-handed in 2004.

Still tough to swallow
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 19 @ 9:28 AM ET
Tortorella is a clown.
- MBFlyerfan


Never been a fan of how he has his teams play or how he treats people
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 19 @ 9:34 AM ET
The cardiac kids do it again!
- Pixote Andolini


It was painful to watch for a stretch, but boy, did they turn it around in the third.

They have obvious flaws, and we all know them. But i maintain this team is better than some think and really could win the East if -- and it would be difficult -- but if they could find a bit more speed and skill for a defense spot and one spot on the fourth line
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 19 @ 9:38 AM ET
Tortorella is a clown.
- MBFlyerfan


I wish they wouldn't have held anyone back. Let's see how eager he is to fight the entire Flames roster when no one is standing in the way.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
happy for the win, but this team seems to have a lot of trouble playing a solid 60 minutes. eventually these 3rd period comebacks will stop.
- hammarby31


It's not even like were expecting to see them play the way they did in the 3rd for the whole game. That's just unsustainable. But they need to play much better defensively. Especially, the forwards. Allowing that many odd man rushes is unforgivable and most of them were on the forwards not keeping one man high at all times.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Jan 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
happy for the win, but this team seems to have a lot of trouble playing a solid 60 minutes. eventually these 3rd period comebacks will stop.
- hammarby31



Bill said this also. I'm glad to see the wins and that fact that this team can come from behind, but chasing every game is tough. Show up for a full 60.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
happy for the win, but this team seems to have a lot of trouble playing a solid 60 minutes. eventually these 3rd period comebacks will stop.
- hammarby31


agreed!

the forwards didn't help the defense out at all thru 2 periods, allowing shots from everywhere, time & space against any team will yield the same results
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
It's not even like were expecting to see them play the way they did in the 3rd for the whole game. That's just unsustainable. But they need to play much better defensively. Especially, the forwards. Allowing that many odd man rushes is unforgivable and most of them were on the forwards not keeping one man high at all times.
- PhillySportsGuy


oh and cough, Meszaros, cough

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
oh and cough, Meszaros, cough
- puckhead17


We need to sign him now. 5 year deal. NMC. New house in Voorhees. New Mercedes. New shore house. New dog. New tweezers
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
We need to sign him now. 5 year deal. NMC. New house in Voorhees. New Mercedes. New shore house. New dog. New tweezers
- PhillySportsGuy


new tweezers in case of a splinter
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
oh and cough, Meszaros, cough
- puckhead17


I was thinking more in terms of giving him some pp time and maybe reevaluating a contract offer after the season if he stays healthy and continues to produce.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 19 @ 9:54 AM ET
new tweezers in case of a splinter
- puckhead17


He's been great since January. That second goal was an absolute snipe.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:54 AM ET
I was thinking more in terms of giving him some pp time and maybe reevaluating a contract offer after the season if he stays healthy and continues to produce.

- MBFlyerfan


my sentiments exactly, I was never saying sign him now big $

I was only saying yesterday, if he stays healthy & continues playing like a top 4 guy, the team will have a decision to make after the season, (as oppose to the original obvious decision of throwing him in a dumpster)
& signing another piece of crap over 35 UFA
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