Colin Dambrauskas: Mike Cammalleri - What's His Value? Gameday Blue Jackets @ Flames

Hi Colin

Colin Dambrauskas: Mike Cammalleri - What's His Value? Gameday Blue Jackets @ Flames
- Colin Dambrauskas

Hi Colin!

I think they need to trade him. Only question is do you trade him now to a western conference team that may need someone like him right now just to stay in the playoff hunt. Or do they wait until the deadline. Tough choice

How ya get'n on b'y....

6M 31 year old pending UFA who has questionable durability

I dunno if hes worth much unless the Flames eat allot of his salary

I think they need to trade him. Only question is do you trade him now to a western conference team that may need someone like him right now just to stay in the playoff hunt. Or do they wait until the deadline. Tough choice
- Flames1977

Given that Calgary is not "aiming" for playoffs this year, it allows them to move him at anytime. The question, however, is how much value does the management team place on keeping a guy like Mike around vs trading him. As the season nears the December January months and the playoffs are closer in sight, teams begin to get desperate as falling too far behind can really cause problems for you, especially in the Western conference.

Now, that being said, most would argue that teams such as the Canucks and Flames are not typical trading partners because they are direct rivals...however, given that the Flames are understood to be rebuilding a need a few years, moving a guy like Cammalleri to a rival shouldnt impact Calgary too much in terms of direct competition.

How ya get'n on b'y....
- Fruitcakenipple

Doin' good rate now...tho the weather's been movin n makin me bones chilly n me body sicky....you?

Hi Colin
- Yeti1181

....hi!

Given that Calgary is not "aiming" for playoffs this year, it allows them to move him at anytime. The question, however, is how much value does the management team place on keeping a guy like Mike around vs trading him. As the season nears the December January months and the playoffs are closer in sight, teams begin to get desperate as falling too far behind can really cause problems for you, especially in the Western conference.

Now, that being said, most would argue that teams such as the Canucks and Flames are not typical trading partners because they are direct rivals...however, given that the Flames are understood to be rebuilding a need a few years, moving a guy like Cammalleri to a rival shouldnt impact Calgary too much in terms of direct competition.
- Colin Dambrauskas

If they DO trade him, pls advise the front office NOT to do it in the middle of a game.

Doin' good rate now...tho the weather's been movin n makin me bones chilly n me body sicky....you?
- Colin Dambrauskas

Lard tunder'n b'y it's cold enough da freeze the balls off a brass monkey down yer on da rock....

I don't know about you, but for me trade of Mike starts with a 1st or an A prospect or young player +.

Whats the point in dumping someone like cammy for say a 2nd or less.. really does us no good because as you say and we all know at the deadline he becomes worth more and more and.....

Right now he is $4,5000,0000 (%25 percent of season is done)
we can keep %50 so he is $2,250,000 (%25 percent of season is done)
at the deadline he is $1,500,000 (%75 percent of the season done)
we can keep %50 so he is $750,000 (%75 of the season done)

so you can see how his value seems to be highest with %50 to us and at the trade deadline.

If they DO trade him, pls advise the front office NOT to do it in the middle of a game.
- hscesq

And try to get better than a Rene Bourque in return.

I don't know about you, but for me trade of Mike starts with a 1st or an A prospect or young player +.

Whats the point in dumping someone like cammy for say a 2nd or less.. really does us no good because as you say and we all know at the deadline he becomes worth more and more and.....

Right now he is $4,5000,0000 (%25 percent of season is done)
we can keep %50 so he is $2,250,000 (%25 percent of season is done)
at the deadline he is $1,500,000 (%75 percent of the season done)
we can keep %50 so he is $750,000 (%75 of the season done)

so you can see how his value seems to be highest with %50 to us and at the trade deadline.
- vowswithin

Though I see your reasoning here, whether a team picks him up now or at the deadline, his salary (though less in terms of actual dollars paid) remains the same against the cap hit. Yes he will have a salary remaining of 1.5M come the deadline which is less than his current 4.5M, but all other players on their roster will also have lowered salaries payed out as well....in other words, if they can afford him at the trade deadline they can afford him now.

Sure for teams like Dallas the thought of paying much less for his services will look better for their organization, but Ive always felt that its better to bring in a player you want sooner than at the last minute in terms of a rental...they need time to adapt and develop chemistry.

Given that Calgary is not "aiming" for playoffs this year, it allows them to move him at anytime. The question, however, is how much value does the management team place on keeping a guy like Mike around vs trading him. As the season nears the December January months and the playoffs are closer in sight, teams begin to get desperate as falling too far behind can really cause problems for you, especially in the Western conference.

Now, that being said, most would argue that teams such as the Canucks and Flames are not typical trading partners because they are direct rivals...however, given that the Flames are understood to be rebuilding a need a few years, moving a guy like Cammalleri to a rival shouldnt impact Calgary too much in terms of direct competition.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Mike may have already stated to Feaster et al that he doesn't want to stick around beyond this season. So the choice to trade him or try to resign may already be taken care of.

That said, most teams can benefit from adding a pure sniper like Cammi. I've said it a few times, We could really use a player like Rundblad in our system. I'd be happy with him and a 1st. NYI have the ability to move prospects/picks, MIN, OTT, ANA. Who feels they need him more? VAN could certainly use him but what do they have that we would want? Tanev and a 1st? Is it enough? I doubt they give up Horvat but he is really their only prospect of note aside from Shinkaruk who we passed on at the draft. Jensen?

We need a D prospect with 1st pairing potential and strong 2 way play and a potential top 6 RW. Who has it and can afford to move it?

I've always felt Cammy would look good alongside Spezza. However, I am unsure of what the cost would be. Sens wouldn't make a deal until the trade deadline most likely so they can take as little money possible. A prospect like Puemple, Stone, Prince, or Pagenua and a mid range pick do the trick?

I'm noticing a lot of people (not just here) that think Cammalleri will get Calgary a bigger return than Iginla did.

My question is does the ability to retain salary (which increases the number of teams that can acquire him) really raise his value that much?

I think Calgary will get an A prospect OR a 1st round pick (and maybe a smaller piece) at best, not both.

I'm noticing a lot of people (not just here) that think Cammalleri will get Calgary a bigger return than Iginla did.

My question is does the ability to retain salary (which increases the number of teams that can acquire him) really raise his value that much?

I think Calgary will get an A prospect OR a 1st round pick (and maybe a smaller piece) at best, not both.
- Steven_Dean

For sure it does....Calgary is one of few teams who can afford to retain and or take back salary in order to make trades happen. Most trades are blocked because of the cap restrictions, but with so much wiggle room, Calgary could eat up a good portion of his salary, take back a bad contract and as a result, be gifted with a promising prospect/player/pick.

I'm noticing a lot of people (not just here) that think Cammalleri will get Calgary a bigger return than Iginla did.

My question is does the ability to retain salary (which increases the number of teams that can acquire him) really raise his value that much?

I think Calgary will get an A prospect OR a 1st round pick (and maybe a smaller piece) at best, not both.
- Steven_Dean

That is what I am aiming for, if we do better then that... then sweet win for us. I think the islanders stupidity is going to get people wanting some unrealistic things. (how the hell do you exchange two players I see as close in value AND give away 1st and 2nd)

We softened them for you

We softened them for you
- Lahey

You dismantled them apparently! GJ

Damon Severson + Damian Brunner ?

Hi Colin!


- hscesq

Stupid one upper.

You dismantled them apparently! GJ
- vowswithin

I think they dismantled themselves. I've watched a lot of poop hockey the past 4 years and they looked a team that was going through the motions trying to finish the season. Problem is they have a lot of hockey left to be in this position so early.

Stupid one upper.
- Yeti1181

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