Dan Petriw: Isles Leafs tonight in Toronto

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Dan Petriw: Isles Leafs tonight in Toronto
- Dan Petriw

I agree Grabner could be had for an upgrade to the D, but It really shouldn't be ANY upgrade to the D. He may be a bottom 6 player with 25 goal ability, but his skills on the PK are what should be his true selling point & bring back a very good second pairing D-men.

XxNYIxX

I agree Grabner could be had for an upgrade to the D, but It really shouldn't be ANY upgrade to the D. He may be a bottom 6 player with 25 goal ability, but his skills on the PK are what should be his true selling point & bring back a very good second pairing D-men.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

So you're saying JM Liles can jump on the Isles bus following the game and Grabner should start looking for an appartment in Toronto? Sounds good.

So you're saying JM Liles can jump on the Isles bus following the game and Grabner should start looking for an appartment in Toronto? Sounds good.

- magmoo

I think you should look for a new punch line.

So you're saying JM Liles can jump on the Isles bus following the game and Grabner should start looking for an appartment in Toronto? Sounds good.

- magmoo

How does JML fit in as a "Very good second pairing d-men"

So to answer your question.... no


XxNYIxX

what are the line combos tonight Dan? Haven't seen anything announced

Dan Petriw: Isles Leafs tonight in Toronto
- Dan Petriw

Talented leaf team? Maybe talented goalie combo.

what are the line combos tonight Dan? Haven't seen anything announced
- Isles_since_6

If they are the same as the morning skate they will be

Okposo Tavares Nelson
Bailey Nielsen McDonald
PMB Regin Clutterbuck
Boulton Cizikas Martin

Talented leaf team? Maybe talented goalie combo.
- dack1972

Leafs are a good team

Talented leaf team? Maybe talented goalie combo.
- dack1972

Credit where it is due.. they do have a talented group of players upfront, on D & in goal... no one said they were world beaters.. but they are talented none the less.

XxNYIxX

Credit where it is due.. they do have a talented group of players upfront, on D & in goal... no one said they were world beaters.. but they are talented none the less.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

whats up with that?

whats up with that?
- Leaffan8113

welcome to the show

Leafs are a good team
- Dan Petriw

They pretty much assaulted the Wild, but yeah. Good luck tonight

Why doesn't Grabner get 2nd line icetime consistently but more importantly why can't he get any reasonable PP time?

GO LEAFS GO

How does JML fit in as a "Very good second pairing d-men"

So to answer your question.... no


XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

Ohhhh - you meant NHL level second pairing. Would you settle for AHL level second pairing? If not, well then, I guess there's no deal to be made here.

They pretty much assaulted the Wild, but yeah. Good luck tonight
- SotaPopinski

The Isles won't have to face Kadri.

Why doesn't Grabner get 2nd line icetime consistently but more importantly why can't he get any reasonable PP time?
- striker777

Capuano=Moron

You don't need to give up Grabner to get Liles. Toronto would give him away & might even eat salary to do so as the used their 2 compliance buy outs & if they buy him out of his deal this summer their on the hook for 2/3rd's of his salary spread over twice the term of the years left. That being essentially 1.3 mil for 4 years.

Toronto only gets 925k in salary cap relief from Liles contract currently. You could probably get Nonis to eat 1.5 mil over the remaining term. That would give Toronto more cap relief today & provide the same dollar burden for the next 2 years but then they would save 1.3 in years 3 & 4 against the cap. The islanders would get a decent #5 Dman for this & 2 more years at 2.37 for 2 more years.

Why doesn't Grabner get 2nd line icetime consistently but more importantly why can't he get any reasonable PP time?
- striker777

Grabs hands of stone keep him off the PP. grabs is a good player, but anyone who watches him can see he has stone hands. He doesn't have a soft touch, a sniper's touch. His other attributes will mask some of the fact that he has bad hands, but I think Dan is right: Grabs is a third line player on a good team and a good one at that. Good PKer too. I'd be open to moving him but only In The right deal for a legit top 4 NHL d-man relatively young and signed.

You don't need to give up Grabner to get Liles. Toronto would give him away & might even eat salary to do so as the used their 2 compliance buy outs & if they buy him out of his deal this summer their on the hook for 2/3rd's of his salary spread over twice the term of the years left. That being essentially 1.3 mil for 4 years.
- striker777

If they want him out that bad, he must be bad. Probably as bad as what we have already. No thanks.

Toronto only gets 925k in salary cap relief from Liles contract currently. You could probably get Nonis to eat 1.5 mil over the remaining term. That would give Toronto more cap relief today & provide the same dollar burden for the next 2 years but then they would save 1.3 in years 3 & 4 against the cap. The islanders would get a decent #5 Dman for this & 2 more years at 2.37 for 2 more years.
- striker777

bold is where it's a problem. We have plenty of #5 defensemen and we don't want another signed for 2 more years.

Toronto only gets 925k in salary cap relief from Liles contract currently. You could probably get Nonis to eat 1.5 mil over the remaining term. That would give Toronto more cap relief today & provide the same dollar burden for the next 2 years but then they would save 1.3 in years 3 & 4 against the cap. The islanders would get a decent #5 Dman for this & 2 more years at 2.37 for 2 more years.
- striker777

This is true. Liles could be had for pretty much nothing more then SOME salary relief. I am surprised no one has traded for him yet, considering....