Steve Palumbo: Dubinsky Won't Be Disciplined by NHL for Koivu Hit: Right Call?

Finally a good hit that won't be a suspension.

Finally a good hit that won't be a suspension.
- Itsjustarash

You hammerhead, did you watch the video, It was late and it was dirty. How does John Scott get suspended indefinitely for his hit and Dubinsky get nothing. The disciplinarian committee is a joke.

Finally a good hit that won't be a suspension.
- Itsjustarash

A good hit? Contact to the head is not a good hit. Koivu is not a dirty player and now he is out cause of that moron dubinsky. NHL screwed the pooch on this one.

A good hit? Contact to the head is not a good hit. Koivu is not a dirty player and now he is out cause of that moron dubinsky. NHL screwed the pooch on this one.
- Ducks_Fan_93

See below if it works. Elbow tucked all the way. Koivu's stick hits him in the face.

http://i.minus.com/iQwhiUCNqF9yU.gif

It didn't look to be such a viscious hit. I watched it over and over and just don't think there should be a suspension. Target was the shoulder, but because Koivu is shorter, yes...contact to the head was made. Unfortunate that an injury occured, and if I were a Ducks fan I'd be pissed, but be realistic here...it was not intent to injure...

...and to compare this to the Scott incident is just stupid.

It didn't look to be such a viscious hit. I watched it over and over and just don't think there should be a suspension. Target was the shoulder, but because Koivu is shorter, yes...contact to the head was made. Unfortunate that an injury occured, and if I were a Ducks fan I'd be pissed, but be realistic here...it was not intent to injure...

...and to compare this to the Scott incident is just stupid.
- mames11

Shanahan usually suspend these, under "reckless".

1 - Koviu no longer had the puck making him ineligible for the hit

2 - primary contact was shoulder to head which results in injury


Why the game misconduct then for Dubinsky?


All I know is that Koivu is on a plane home now to be evaluated by team doctors and won't play the remainder of the trip.

Late hit, made contact with the head, seems like it should be a suspension. I'm glad he's not suspended cause I have him in my pool, but objectively there have been similar hits that received suspensions, not to mention the fact that you wouldn't want these kind of hits to be a regular occurrence.

1 - Koviu no longer had the puck making him ineligible for the hit

2 - primary contact was shoulder to head which results in injury


Why the game misconduct then for Dubinsky?


All I know is that Koivu is on a plane home now to be evaluated by team doctors and won't play the remainder of the trip.
- Ducks_Fan_93

That's actually good news if you are a Ducks fan. If it were terribly serious, he wouldn't be allowed to fly.

The guy has overcome obsticles only Superman could defeat. He will be back soon.

That's actually good news if you are a Ducks fan. If it were terribly serious, he wouldn't be allowed to fly.

The guy has overcome obsticles only Superman could defeat. He will be back soon.
- mames11

I agree that it is good news that he can travel, but bad news for ducks fans that he won't be able to play (though health is obviously paramount). The Ducks are getting hit by the injury bug bad right now.

Late hit, made contact with the head, seems like it should be a suspension. I'm glad he's not suspended cause I have him in my pool, but objectively there have been similar hits that received suspensions, not to mention the fact that you wouldn't want these kind of hits to be a regular occurrence.
- 13sundin13

See below if it works. Elbow tucked all the way. Koivu's stick hits him in the face.

http://i.minus.com/iQwhiUCNqF9yU.gif
- bjacket

You are correct...it definitely appears as thou Koivu's stick...raised as he attempts to protect himself...yet still high...is what hits the front of his helmet.

Interesting and probably why Dubinsky was not suspended.

Without that close up replay, the hit looks to be a clear elbow...but in fact that replay says otherwise.

I just really don't understand why some players feel the need to just layout guys in open ice when they don't need to. Just have some class and lay up on some of the open ice hits that are not needed in the game. Sure there are a lot of situations where you can hit a guy in open ice with good reason, but some players just do it for the sake of laying a guy out.

I just really don't understand why some players feel the need to just layout guys in open ice when they don't need to. Just have some class and lay up on some of the open ice hits that are not needed in the game. Sure there are a lot of situations where you can hit a guy in open ice with good reason, but some players just do it for the sake of laying a guy out.
- Peterg

Take some physics classes, if Dubinskey lays off on the hit he gets run over.

Take some physics classes, if Dubinskey lays off on the hit he gets run over.
- bjacket

Please explain how he would get run over?

Take some physics classes, if Dubinskey lays off on the hit he gets run over.
- bjacket

How does he get run over, he could have easily steered Koivu to the boards and out of the play without absolutely lining him up blindsiding him. Koivu is not the type of player to release the puck and try to run over someone.

Yet in the first period Beauchemin delivers an identical hit on Anisimov, and I guess because there was no call, that this one is a "clean hockey hit". Fact is, I thought both hits were near identical, with the exception that Koivu had just released the puck. Dubinsky was not headhunting, like in the instances of Scott or Kaleta, or so many before them. He was making a play and finishing his check. A linesman makes this call, and off we go. This call could have easily been the one that cost the Jackets the game. Clearly, it is what it is, and the game is over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdEb1qLodGg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTSsQ7UwnZ0

Tell me how one is different than the other?

I just really don't understand why some players feel the need to just layout guys in open ice when they don't need to. Just have some class and lay up on some of the open ice hits that are not needed in the game. Sure there are a lot of situations where you can hit a guy in open ice with good reason, but some players just do it for the sake of laying a guy out.
- Peterg

Have you ever played contact hockey before? The feeling you get after completely annihilating someone is awesome.

Have you ever played contact hockey before? The feeling you get after completely annihilating someone is awesome.
- FinAddict

It feels amazing, but being on the other end is as bad as it gets. I guess that's partly what makes hockey so great. So many emotions all in 60 minutes.

Yet in the first period Beauchemin delivers an identical hit on Anisimov, and I guess because there was no call, that this one is a "clean hockey hit". Fact is, I thought both hits were near identical, with the exception that Koivu had just released the puck. Dubinsky was not headhunting, like in the instances of Scott or Kaleta, or so many before them. He was making a play and finishing his check. A linesman makes this call, and off we go. This call could have easily been the one that cost the Jackets the game. Clearly, it is what it is, and the game is over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdEb1qLodGg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTSsQ7UwnZ0

Tell me how one is different than the other?
- dcp

Beauchemin doesn't make contact with Anisimov's head. While I don't think Dubinsky was head hunting, he definitely made contact with Koivu's head. You don't get woozy and disoriented with a body check, which is why Anisimov was able to continue to play in the game.

Beauchemin doesn't make contact with Anisimov's head. While I don't think Dubinsky was head hunting, he definitely made contact with Koivu's head. You don't get woozy and disoriented with a body check, which is why Anisimov was able to continue to play in the game.
- duxcup07

Watch the gif earlier in the thread and you will clearly see that he did not make contact with the head. Koivu's own stick did the damage. Dubinsky made a late, but clean hit. Beauchemin has made it a work of art with the booming open ice hits lately.

See below if it works. Elbow tucked all the way. Koivu's stick hits him in the face.

http://i.minus.com/iQwhiUCNqF9yU.gif
- bjacket

good video....he went high on Saku and hit him in the head ...I think anywhere else it would have been ok ..even if it was the stick ...dub caused it to happen ...it would be a terrible way to end his career ...the ducks had a dman last year hang em up from a head shot ...but that one was blatant shot from abdelkader

Wow, thats ridiculous.

That is textbook what they've been trying to eliminate from the game, thrust up high skating across an unsuspecting player.