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Jason Lewis
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Sep 27 @ 1:20 PM ET
Jason Lewis: Vegas, Phil Kessel, "Loans", and Dustin Brown
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 27 @ 1:58 PM ET
Ahh u Kings fans are just jealous cause u guys would love to have Kessel. Well u want him, it'll cost u Doughty, Kopitar, Quick & since Carter plays the RW now, he must be included aswell.
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:03 PM ET
I for one think a greater emphasis should be placed on protecting the John Scott's of the league.

What Scott did was absolutely justified after Devane attacked Tropp. It's goons like Kessel we need to get out of the league. His digusting amount of PIMs every year makes me sick.

SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:03 PM ET
why is it not shocking a butt hurt leaf fan is 1st...
- derekjd


What kind of smoothie do you think Tropp had for lunch?
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:08 PM ET
Give me a break buddy........Kessel had a 6'8" behemoth, who is paid to fight, coming after him. His first reaction, in shock, is to chop at his leg and slow him down, to get away! That first chop hit him in the shin pad! Don't know if you have ever played hockey, but I'm sure the guy didnt even feel it. The second swing didnt even hit him and the "spear" was more like a poke.

So instead of criticizing what Kessel did, lets hear what you would have done, in the blink of an eye when a gorilla jumps at you wanting to pummel you.
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:10 PM ET
Stop being stupid kiddo. Most teams would like to have a talent like Kessel. But doesnt mean he should be allowed to do what he is doing.
- poisondhearts37


So would it have been ok if Scott sucker punched the Leafs best player knocking him with a broken jaw or worse he becomes another Steve Moore? Kessel is not a fighter. Scott should have been smarter & gone after one of the Leafs tough guys. Scott broke the players code. Should Colton Orr start punching Jeff Carter? No.
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:10 PM ET
Give me a break buddy........Kessel had a 6'8" behemoth, who is paid to fight, coming after him. His first reaction, in shock, is to chop at his leg and slow him down, to get away! That first chop hit him in the shin pad! Don't know if you have ever played hockey, but I'm sure the guy didnt even feel it. The second swing didnt even hit him and the "spear" was more like a poke.

So instead of criticizing what Kessel did, lets hear what you would have done, in the blink of an eye when a gorilla jumps at you wanting to pummel you.

- Bullot


How dare you speak of John Scott like that.. He's the reincarnate of Scott Niedermayer. 2 point NHL season here he comes!
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:16 PM ET
Give me a break buddy........Kessel had a 6'8" behemoth, who is paid to fight, coming after him. His first reaction, in shock, is to chop at his leg and slow him down, to get away! That first chop hit him in the shin pad! Don't know if you have ever played hockey, but I'm sure the guy didnt even feel it. The second swing didnt even hit him and the "spear" was more like a poke.

So instead of criticizing what Kessel did, lets hear what you would have done, in the blink of an eye when a gorilla jumps at you wanting to pummel you.

- Bullot



AGREED. It's first instinct when u get attacked. When I was like 12, in 2 different incidents I was attacked by a person. & I knocked both people down with out even remembering that I hit them. That's called instinct.
cryptical77
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 27 @ 2:20 PM ET
Give me a break buddy........Kessel had a 6'8" behemoth, who is paid to fight, coming after him. His first reaction, in shock, is to chop at his leg and slow him down, to get away! That first chop hit him in the shin pad! Don't know if you have ever played hockey, but I'm sure the guy didnt even feel it. The second swing didnt even hit him and the "spear" was more like a poke.

So instead of criticizing what Kessel did, lets hear what you would have done, in the blink of an eye when a gorilla jumps at you wanting to pummel you.

- Bullot


Good points, but others had already jumped to Kessel's defense by the second slash and Scott was tied up by a linesman for the spear. Not defending Scott at all either. If anything Clarkson was the one that got screwed over.
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:22 PM ET
How dare you speak of John Scott like that.. He's the reincarnate of Scott Niedermayer. 2 point NHL season here he comes!
- SameOld



When playing at home, John Scott should be treated like Johnny Carson. When he comes on the ice, the arena annoucer should say HERRRRREEEEE'S JOHNNNY!!!!
With Carson's entry music playing. On the Johnny Scott show tonight, we have a great show. Tonight Johnny picks a fight with Steven Stamkos. HAYOOOOO!!!!!!
Later on in the show Johnny will sucker punch Martin St. Louis HAYOOOOOO!!!!!!
Watch out Jude Drouin, Johnny is lining up beside u HAYOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:26 PM ET
Good points, but others had already jumped to Kessel's defense by the second slash and Scott was tied up by a linesman for the spear. Not defending Scott at all either. If anything Clarkson was the one that got screwed over.
- cryptical77



Was all Scott's fault, he STARTED the whole mess. Ok Clarkson should not have jumped over the boards, but how Scott gets away with zero word from Shanny after starting this? That's the most surprising. Kessel only got 3 pre-season games cause A) He's a 1st time offender & B) It was instinct to defend himself. However yes, next time Shanny will be a little more harder on Kessel if he's a re-offender.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:26 PM ET
So would it have been ok if Scott sucker punched the Leafs best player knocking him with a broken jaw or worse he becomes another Steve Moore? Kessel is not a fighter. Scott should have been smarter & gone after one of the Leafs tough guys. Scott broke the players code. Should Colton Orr start punching Jeff Carter? No.
- GCHonda

Leafs didnt put out a tough guy. Scott told Kessel he was gonna push him around. Kessel didnt have to line up. He could of done a number of things to get out of that scenario. Saying should Orr just start punching Jeff Carter has nothing to do with what happened in Toronto. The first hack is one thing. But the 2nd and the spear while Scott is tied up with someone. Come on man. Sure the spear wasnt hard or anything. But still. He cant just be doing that stuff.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:28 PM ET
Was all Scott's fault, he STARTED the whole mess. Ok Clarkson should not have jumped over the boards, but how Scott gets away with zero word from Shanny after starting this? That's the most surprising. Kessel only got 3 pre-season games cause A) He's a 1st time offender & B) It was instinct to defend himself. However yes, next time Shanny will be a little more harder on Kessel if he's a re-offender.
- GCHonda

Because he did nothing wrong. There is no rule against fighting. He got an instigator. Sure they dont usually got after the Kessels of the league. That would also be Kessels 3rd time doing it in less than a week.
cryptical77
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 27 @ 2:34 PM ET
Was all Scott's fault, he STARTED the whole mess. Ok Clarkson should not have jumped over the boards, but how Scott gets away with zero word from Shanny after starting this? That's the most surprising. Kessel only got 3 pre-season games cause A) He's a 1st time offender & B) It was instinct to defend himself. However yes, next time Shanny will be a little more harder on Kessel if he's a re-offender.
- GCHonda


Which is unfortunate with the automatic 10 games because I thought Clarkson did the honorable thing. And I for one would have no problem with supplementary discipline for Scott either, especially if the league wants to give more than lip service to "protecting its star players".
cryptical77
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 27 @ 2:37 PM ET
Because he did nothing wrong. There is no rule against fighting. He got an instigator. Sure they dont usually got after the Kessels of the league. That would also be Kessels 3rd time doing it in less than a week.
- poisondhearts37


Got to disagree here, Scott broke the code big time. Instigated on a much smaller, non-fighting player. Really there's plenty of blame to go around. I have to wonder if this puts a target squarely on the back of someone like Vanek, undeserved as it is.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 27 @ 3:34 PM ET
I would tend to agree the slash was worse, but thing about the spear that bothered me was that Scott's arms were held. Just not good all the way around, Scott too.

On a better note, how about that Bernier??? First time ever I'll be pulling for the Leafs a little bit.

- cryptical77


I think Bernier is going to be a big upgrade, stick handling alone will make sure he's #1 this year. IMHO
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 27 @ 3:36 PM ET
Leave it to Leaf fans to cry all over your blog. Boo-feckin-hoo.
- The_Buffaslug


haha...the crying Sabre fans that were all over the leafs blog for a day and 1/2...now you're back here CRYING AGAIN!!!
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
I think Bernier is going to be a big upgrade, stick handling alone will make sure he's #1 this year. IMHO
- Garnie


AGREED 100%. The #1 job will have to be earned, but in the long run, no doubt Bernier will eventually win the #1 job. No Leaf fan can claim unfairness cause Bernier will win the #1 job & he'll have earned it.
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 27 @ 5:18 PM ET
haha...the crying Sabre fans that were all over the leafs blog for a day and 1/2...now you're back here CRYING AGAIN!!!
- Garnie



Yup & come Nov 15 when Orr & McLaren get their hands on Scott, the Sabre fans will cry cry again.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Sep 27 @ 5:30 PM ET
HEY! LA BLOGGER! WE DONT TAKE KINDLY OF YOUR TYPES AROUND HERE!
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Sep 27 @ 5:31 PM ET

- poisondhearts37


HEY! YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD! WE DONT TAKE KINDLY TO PEOPLE WHO SHAKE THEIR HEADS AROUND HERE!
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Sep 27 @ 5:36 PM ET
What kind of smoothie do you think Tropp had for lunch?
- SameOld

stay tuned for Garth blog: leafs-sabres episode 12
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Sep 27 @ 5:37 PM ET
If Kessel's use of the stick warrants further suspension then almost certainly my use of the stick should land me in jail
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Sep 27 @ 5:47 PM ET
Because he did nothing wrong. There is no rule against fighting. He got an instigator. Sure they dont usually got after the Kessels of the league. That would also be Kessels 3rd time doing it in less than a week.
- poisondhearts37


Scott was relatively unpunished since he did no damage to Kessel. Had he succeeded in doing so, the punishment would have been severe. The Bertuzzi/Moore incident is an example of what can possibly go wrong.

Rolston received a heavy fine, and a stern warning behind closed doors. This warning was repeated to all coaches throughout the league. Basically, they were told that the next one that sends out a goon to go after a star player would receive a harsh penalty. Unlike the players, they have no CBA to protect them.
Jason Lewis
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Sep 27 @ 5:48 PM ET
I would tend to agree the slash was worse, but thing about the spear that bothered me was that Scott's arms were held. Just not good all the way around, Scott too.

On a better note, how about that Bernier??? First time ever I'll be pulling for the Leafs a little bit.

- cryptical77


Exactly. It was disgusting to me because of this. Same with the second slash. Already tied up, no need at all, nothing scott could do. As far as being against the Leafs...I have no feelings about them, only callin it as I see it.
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