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Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Sep 27 @ 12:29 PM ET
Mike Augello: The Burgeoning Blueline; Rielly Remaining?
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:33 PM ET
Mike Augello: The Burgeoning Blueline; Rielly Remaining?
- mikeinbuffalo

Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Sep 27 @ 12:37 PM ET
Mike Augello: The Burgeoning Blueline; Rielly Remaining?
- mikeinbuffalo


Putting Liles on waivers and hoping someone takes him off their hands is Nonis's only out...

I know Leaf fans think he did well but he is just prolonging the agony. Franson got exactly what he wanted and that was to be arbitration eligible next year. I think many Leaf fans and others are going to be sorely disappointed when the Cap does not go up significantly next year and the Leafs Cap hell will remain with so many players to sign.

Let the hatred and telling me Im wrong begin....
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:37 PM ET
David Broll – Nazem Kadri – Mason Raymond
Joffrey Lupul – Dave Bolland – Nikolai Kulemin

2nd last preseason game and these are the 2nd and 3rd lines? Really?

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 27 @ 12:38 PM ET
allaboutsportz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 11.03.2011

Sep 27 @ 12:39 PM ET
looking forward to seeing Johnny B tonight....

interesting line choices.....



Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:39 PM ET
Putting Liles on waivers and hoping someone takes him off their hands is Nonis's only out...

I know Leaf fans think he did well but he is just prolonging the agony. Franson got exactly what he wanted and that was to be arbitration eligible next year. I think many Leaf fans and others are going to be sorely disappointed when the Cap does not go up significantly next year and the Leafs Cap hell will remain with so many players to sign.

Let the hatred and telling me Im wrong begin....

- Iggysbff


Removing Liles, even if through Buyout, in addition to other money coming off the books saves Leafs over $5M right there.

If cap goes up even $2M, they have plenty of room. Might spell the end of Phaneuf in Toronto, but many wouldn't mind that anyway.

They'll be a bit tight, but nowhere near like this year.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:39 PM ET
Putting Liles on waivers and hoping someone takes him off their hands is Nonis's only out...

I know Leaf fans think he did well but he is just prolonging the agony. Franson got exactly what he wanted and that was to be arbitration eligible next year. I think many Leaf fans and others are going to be sorely disappointed when the Cap does not go up significantly next year and the Leafs Cap hell will remain with so many players to sign.

Let the hatred and telling me Im wrong begin....

- Iggysbff


i'll bet the cap is 70 next year. still gonna be damn tight for the leafs tho
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 27 @ 12:39 PM ET
Makenzie seems to think the leafs are willing to keep rielly so long as he's going to play at least 3 of every 5 games and 12-15mins/game.

markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:40 PM ET
Putting Liles on waivers and hoping someone takes him off their hands is Nonis's only out...

I know Leaf fans think he did well but he is just prolonging the agony. Franson got exactly what he wanted and that was to be arbitration eligible next year. I think many Leaf fans and others are going to be sorely disappointed when the Cap does not go up significantly next year and the Leafs Cap hell will remain with so many players to sign.

Let the hatred and telling me Im wrong begin....

- Iggysbff


I don't think it's his ONLY out but I think it's a very likely scenario.

When you say "so many players to sign" is implying they have to sign them all. Out of all of the UFA's and RFA's there are only 4-5 that should be sure things to re-sign.

So no hatred. But ya, you're wrong.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:41 PM ET
Makenzie seems to think the leafs are willing to keep rielly so long as he's going to play at least 3 of every 5 games and 12-15mins/game.
- burn


Not possible with Liles still a member of Leafs, in any capacity.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Sep 27 @ 12:42 PM ET
Putting Liles on waivers and hoping someone takes him off their hands is Nonis's only out...

I know Leaf fans think he did well but he is just prolonging the agony. Franson got exactly what he wanted and that was to be arbitration eligible next year. I think many Leaf fans and others are going to be sorely disappointed when the Cap does not go up significantly next year and the Leafs Cap hell will remain with so many players to sign.

Let the hatred and telling me Im wrong begin....

- Iggysbff


Weren't you the one that repeatedly said Leafs will NOT be able to sign both Franson and Kadri?? Most said they would - you argued.

So, in response to your last line - yeah, you are wrong, as usual.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
Putting Liles on waivers and hoping someone takes him off their hands is Nonis's only out...

I know Leaf fans think he did well but he is just prolonging the agony. Franson got exactly what he wanted and that was to be arbitration eligible next year. I think many Leaf fans and others are going to be sorely disappointed when the Cap does not go up significantly next year and the Leafs Cap hell will remain with so many players to sign.

Let the hatred and telling me Im wrong begin....

- Iggysbff



That won't happen if Franson has a down year and Phaneuf re-signs for $4.5M
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
David Broll – Nazem Kadri – Mason Raymond
Joffrey Lupul – Dave Bolland – Nikolai Kulemin

2nd last preseason game and these are the 2nd and 3rd lines? Really?

- Big_Lightnin


No Clarkson, i thought they were playing him every game?

Fraser and Franson practicing together but they list Gardiner and Franson for partners tonight???

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
Putting Liles on waivers and hoping someone takes him off their hands is Nonis's only out...

I know Leaf fans think he did well but he is just prolonging the agony. Franson got exactly what he wanted and that was to be arbitration eligible next year. I think many Leaf fans and others are going to be sorely disappointed when the Cap does not go up significantly next year and the Leafs Cap hell will remain with so many players to sign.

Let the hatred and telling me Im wrong begin....

- Iggysbff



You are entitled to your opinion, not sure where you form such an opinion though all the evidence points to a higher cap next year. Every informed hockey insider says the cap is rising.


The leafs cap isn't as bad as everyone seems to think. This summer all the arm chair gm who think they know all said the leafs can't afford kadri and franson, and looked what happend.... They got both signed and still added another FA @1m. The leafs have 2.5mil coming off the books next year in buyout/salary retention.
IrishRage
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส�, ON
Joined: 08.02.2008

Sep 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
David Broll – Nazem Kadri – Mason Raymond
Joffrey Lupul – Dave Bolland – Nikolai Kulemin

2nd last preseason game and these are the 2nd and 3rd lines? Really?

- Big_Lightnin

Kessel is suspended which throws everything off. and clarkson starting suspension soon
Should be
jvr - bozak - kessel
Lupul - kadri - clarkson
raymond - bolland - kulemin
anyone - mcclement - anyone
with those two suspended at different times its throwing it all off
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
That won't happen if Franson has a down year and Phaneuf re-signs for $4.5M
- PatC80


The unfortunate truth is that Phaneuf will be making his current salary or MORE next year. Whether its with the Leafs or not.
scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Sep 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
i'll bet the cap is 70 next year. still gonna be damn tight for the leafs tho
- Dozzer


Saw an article on Sportsnet saying latest projections are 67. 70 would be a hell of a revenue jump from 11-12 but I suppose it's possible.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
Not possible with Liles still a member of Leafs, in any capacity.
- Big_Lightnin




He said liles holzer and brennen go down.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
Putting Liles on waivers and hoping someone takes him off their hands is Nonis's only out...

I know Leaf fans think he did well but he is just prolonging the agony. Franson got exactly what he wanted and that was to be arbitration eligible next year. I think many Leaf fans and others are going to be sorely disappointed when the Cap does not go up significantly next year and the Leafs Cap hell will remain with so many players to sign.

Let the hatred and telling me Im wrong begin....

- Iggysbff

Didn't the hatred already begin with you coming on here and getting tear stains all over your pretty blouse while making wild predictions about 2014-15?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 27 @ 12:46 PM ET
Putting Liles on waivers and hoping someone takes him off their hands is Nonis's only out...

I know Leaf fans think he did well but he is just prolonging the agony. Franson got exactly what he wanted and that was to be arbitration eligible next year. I think many Leaf fans and others are going to be sorely disappointed when the Cap does not go up significantly next year and the Leafs Cap hell will remain with so many players to sign.

Let the hatred and telling me Im wrong begin....

- Iggysbff


Tomorrow's tomorrow, but today we are GREAT!!!

Love Garnie

See, no hate
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:46 PM ET
Removing Liles, even if through Buyout, in addition to other money coming off the books saves Leafs over $5M right there.

If cap goes up even $2M, they have plenty of room. Might spell the end of Phaneuf in Toronto, but many wouldn't mind that anyway.

They'll be a bit tight, but nowhere near like this year.

- Big_Lightnin

Ive been saying for while now (along with many others) that I believe the cap will be around 69-70 million next season.

Phaneuf will still be too costly.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Sep 27 @ 12:46 PM ET
i'll bet the cap is 70 next year. still gonna be damn tight for the leafs tho
- Dozzer


So you think revenue will be up 17% in one year? That is what it would take to get to 70 million. I know most cant calculate and do math...but the outdoor games project to add 180 mill....so even still not even close to getting to 70 mill...

We'll all just have to wait and see but my bet is we see 64-65 mill next season.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 27 @ 12:46 PM ET
No Clarkson, u thought they were playing him every game?

Fraser and Franson practicing together but they list Gardiner and Franson for partners tonight???


- Garnie



Clarkson is on #1 in Phil's spot.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 27 @ 12:47 PM ET
Not possible with Liles still a member of Leafs, in any capacity.
- Big_Lightnin


In terms of cap hit:

Liles on the Marlies + Rielly on the Leafs = Liles on the Leafs + Rielly in junior.

Makes it interesting.
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