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Jeff Quirin
St Louis Blues
Location: Fairview Heights, IL
Joined: 02.14.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:11 PM ET
Jeff Quirin: Lunch Bites: Thoughts on Morrow Signing Thoughts on the St. Louis Blues signing winger Brenden Morrow.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Sep 23 @ 12:16 PM ET
The Blues are going to make another awesome run for the big prize. I just hope this year they can get past the Kings. I'd love to see them at it again this year, but only in the Western Final
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
The Blues are going to make another awesome run for the big prize. I just hope this year they can get past the Kings. I'd love to see them at it again this year, but only in the Western Final
- ChetManly

They're not deep enough in the middle to hang out with the big boys just yet.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Sep 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
They're not deep enough in the middle to hang out with the big boys just yet.
- LeftCoaster

never say never!
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 23 @ 1:12 PM ET
Jeff Quirin: Lunch Bites: Thoughts on Morrow Signing
Thoughts on the St. Louis Blues signing winger Brenden Morrow.

- Jeff Quirin


Am I the only Blues fan that doesn't like the Morrow signing? An aging veteran who plays a gritty, physical game, but has major injury history. To add Morrow, you're taking speed out of the lineup.

Do I think that Morrow is a leader? Yes. Do I think he has a lot to offer the Blues? No.
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Sep 23 @ 1:57 PM ET
Am I the only Blues fan that doesn't like the Morrow signing? An aging veteran who plays a gritty, physical game, but has major injury history. To add Morrow, you're taking speed out of the lineup.

Do I think that Morrow is a leader? Yes. Do I think he has a lot to offer the Blues? No.

- eggsegan


Granted he would have been a much better acquisition three or four years ago....he's taken a lot of abuse over the years. But for what the Blues are looking for from him, he's a good fit.

I look at it this way, this gives the coaches some flexibility. When the Blues go up against a big, physical team, they can dress big. Against smaller, more skilled teams, the Blues go smaller.

Injuries always play a part and this gives the Blues just another option.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Sep 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
Quick question for Blues fans:

I watch about 40-50 Blues games a year, based on where I live. My question is this: Are you guys willing to go into the postseason again with some combination of Halak/Elliott/Allen, or do you think you guys will pay the price for Ryan Miller, who the Sabres have to give up at some point?

Personally, I think the Blues would be the scariest team in the league if they had Ryan Miller, but maybe that's just me.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 23 @ 2:23 PM ET
Quick question for Blues fans:

I watch about 40-50 Blues games a year, based on where I live. My question is this: Are you guys willing to go into the postseason again with some combination of Halak/Elliott/Allen, or do you think you guys will pay the price for Ryan Miller, who the Sabres have to give up at some point?

Personally, I think the Blues would be the scariest team in the league if they had Ryan Miller, but maybe that's just me.

- AllInForFlyers


If you look at Ryan Miller's career numbers and Halak's career numbers, they're pretty similar. Who's got the better playoff record? Halak by far.

Ryan Miller:
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=45065

Jaro Halak
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=72667
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Sep 23 @ 2:32 PM ET
Quick question for Blues fans:

I watch about 40-50 Blues games a year, based on where I live. My question is this: Are you guys willing to go into the postseason again with some combination of Halak/Elliott/Allen, or do you think you guys will pay the price for Ryan Miller, who the Sabres have to give up at some point?

Personally, I think the Blues would be the scariest team in the league if they had Ryan Miller, but maybe that's just me.

- AllInForFlyers


I don't get the Ryan Miller to St Louis talk. IMO, he is not an upgrade over Halak.

Halak has played in just over 1 playoff game the last two years because of injuries. The Blues are ready to go into the playoffs with Halak as the starter.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Sep 23 @ 2:32 PM ET
If you look at Ryan Miller's career numbers and Halak's career numbers, they're pretty similar. Who's got the better playoff record? Halak by far.

Ryan Miller:
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=45065

Jaro Halak
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=72667

- eggsegan


Interesting data set -- I personally don't think Halak's a better goaltender than Miller, but that being said, the numbers are what they are.

Thanks for the response!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Sep 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
I don't get the Ryan Miller to St Louis talk. IMO, he is not an upgrade over Halak.

Halak has played in just over 1 playoff game the last two years because of injuries. The Blues are ready to go into the playoffs with Halak as the starter.

- carcus


OK! Again, I appreciate the response!
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
Quick question for Blues fans:

I watch about 40-50 Blues games a year, based on where I live. My question is this: Are you guys willing to go into the postseason again with some combination of Halak/Elliott/Allen, or do you think you guys will pay the price for Ryan Miller, who the Sabres have to give up at some point?

Personally, I think the Blues would be the scariest team in the league if they had Ryan Miller, but maybe that's just me.

- AllInForFlyers


Why do you think Miller is a better goalie than Halak?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Sep 23 @ 3:13 PM ET
Why do you think Miller is a better goalie than Halak?
- eggsegan


Truthfully? I think Ken Hitchcock's system makes goalies look a little better than they are (remember, he coached in Philadelphia too, so I got to see it first-hand), and I think Ryan Miller (who has won a Vezina Trophy, and it was deserved) has been behind a far-worse defense than the Blues have had over the last few seasons.

I think the Blues are an elite team, with maybe the best defense in the NHL. I sure wish the Flyers could roll out Bouuwmeester-Pietrangelo, Jackman-Shattenkirk, and Leopold-Polak.

The Sabres last year put out a defense of...well, I don't want to take a shot at anybody's favorite team. I think it's fair to say that their defense isn't as capable as the Blues'.

I just think, again, think, that Miller's a very, very good goalie playing on a team that hasn't been very stable, doesn't have the talent or system that the Blues have, and I do think that if he were in St. Louis, the Blues would be the best team in the NHL, on paper. (Again, on paper, and just my opinion.)
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Sep 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
Quick question for Blues fans:

I watch about 40-50 Blues games a year, based on where I live. My question is this: Are you guys willing to go into the postseason again with some combination of Halak/Elliott/Allen, or do you think you guys will pay the price for Ryan Miller, who the Sabres have to give up at some point?

Personally, I think the Blues would be the scariest team in the league if they had Ryan Miller, but maybe that's just me.

- AllInForFlyers


Miller's salary handcuffs the Blues. I think they probably took a look at this during the summer and determined they're better where they're at now. It's been a while now since Ryan Miller's been anything special IMO.

I don't think Halak will be an issue, if anything, the Blues might have to address the backup situation if Elliot / Allen struggles.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Sep 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
Quick question for Blues fans:

I watch about 40-50 Blues games a year, based on where I live. My question is this: Are you guys willing to go into the postseason again with some combination of Halak/Elliott/Allen, or do you think you guys will pay the price for Ryan Miller, who the Sabres have to give up at some point?

Personally, I think the Blues would be the scariest team in the league if they had Ryan Miller, but maybe that's just me.

- AllInForFlyers


Depends on the cost. If it's a roster player other than Halak; no. Or if it's a top prospect, no. Put simply, we are a super young team, and it's not worth giving up a long term piece for one shot at the very beginning of our window.

We can afford to give Halak a shot at the playoffs for us. Then if he fails, go for Miller in the off-season... or hopefully, Lundqvist. Think we would be scary with Miller? Imagine (or likely dream for Blues fans) this team with Lundqvist in net.
Go Canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VanCity, BC
Joined: 04.11.2009

Sep 23 @ 8:12 PM ET
This is off topic, but what is Elliott's role looking like? I have him at a reasonable salary on my fantasy team and our rosters for 2013-14 are due this week. I am hoping he'll get in at least 30 games.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 24 @ 12:57 AM ET
Granted he would have been a much better acquisition three or four years ago....he's taken a lot of abuse over the years. But for what the Blues are looking for from him, he's a good fit.

I look at it this way, this gives the coaches some flexibility. When the Blues go up against a big, physical team, they can dress big. Against smaller, more skilled teams, the Blues go smaller.

Injuries always play a part and this gives the Blues just another option.

- bcallaway


How is this different from Mike Keane or Dallas Drake? How did those pan out?
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Sep 24 @ 1:40 AM ET
This is off topic, but what is Elliott's role looking like? I have him at a reasonable salary on my fantasy team and our rosters for 2013-14 are due this week. I am hoping he'll get in at least 30 games.
- Go Canucks


Unless he totally sucks it up like he did in January last year, he'll see 30 games.

Well, or like he sucked it up in February. Also March.
Go Canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VanCity, BC
Joined: 04.11.2009

Sep 24 @ 11:11 AM ET
Unless he totally sucks it up like he did in January last year, he'll see 30 games.

Well, or like he sucked it up in February. Also March.

- Antilles

I guess that's kind of encouraging.
casajari
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Minot, ND
Joined: 06.04.2013

Sep 24 @ 11:55 AM ET
Great signing by the Blues. Wish the 'Hawks could have moved some smaller salary (Brookbank?) to make this happen.
bluenatic411
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 01.14.2013

Sep 24 @ 12:34 PM ET
How is this different from Mike Keane or Dallas Drake? How did those pan out?
- eggsegan

You mean aside from the quality and depth of the other forwards on the roster? Context is everything, my friend.