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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Sep 11 @ 5:37 PM ET
Jan Levine: Alain Vigneault's Message: Clean Slate: Grab It Rangers open training camp...
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 11 @ 5:44 PM ET
Jan Levine: Alain Vigneault's Message: Clean Slate: Grab It
Rangers open training camp...

- airjan23

*grabs it*
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Sep 11 @ 5:49 PM ET
*grabs it*
- Crimsoninja


Make sure you take that slate, mold it into a bowl and collect your tears in it. Id like to bathe in it when the season is over and the Flyers dont make the playoffs again.
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Sep 11 @ 5:53 PM ET
Make sure you take that slate, mold it into a bowl and collect your tears in it. Id like to bathe in it when the season is over and the Flyers dont make the playoffs again.
- aecliptic

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 11 @ 5:54 PM ET
Make sure you take that slate, mold it into a bowl and collect your tears in it. Id like to bathe in it when the season is over and the Flyers dont make the playoffs again.
- aecliptic

diabolical
pcjr307
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 07.13.2007

Sep 11 @ 6:06 PM ET
*grabs it*
- Crimsoninja


Would you rather have Bryz or Emery/Mason combo? I know people say Emery was a great value signing but that Chicago team was special, I don't see him playing as well for the Flyers. That means a lot of pressure on Mason.
RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Canada
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 11 @ 6:08 PM ET
I think ray emery is a fantastic goaltender ... When he was in Ottawa his playoff performance was great, he was always a starter in my mind
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 11 @ 6:13 PM ET
I think ray emery is a fantastic goaltender ... When he was in Ottawa his playoff performance was great, he was always a starter in my mind
- RileyB77

he's had to change his style because of injuries since his ottawa days though. I still love the guy, but i dont think he'll ever be healthy enough to carry a full load as a starter again.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 11 @ 6:13 PM ET
Would you rather have Bryz or Emery/Mason combo? I know people say Emery was a great value signing but that Chicago team was special, I don't see him playing as well for the Flyers. That means a lot of pressure on Mason.
- pcjr307

not bryz
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Sep 11 @ 6:24 PM ET
not bryz
- Crimsoninja

1st day of Rangers camp & we have multiple Flyers posts on here.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Sep 11 @ 6:25 PM ET
I like the clean slate mentality, no one feels better about hearing that than Richards, man must be breathing a lot easier knowing Torts is 3000 miles away.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Sep 11 @ 6:27 PM ET
http://snyrangersblog.com...s-message-to-the-rangers/

“Everybody has a clean slate and a chance. IT may not be a long chance, but everyone will get a chance and an opportunity. It’s up to them to grab it. Depending on different things, a lot of times the guys make the decisions for us based on how they play. They wanna show what they can do..”

Somehow I think this is directed at Stu Bickel
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Sep 11 @ 6:51 PM ET
Fire AV.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Sep 11 @ 6:53 PM ET
A message from Cody Hodgson. https://t.co/ByGf7pn9YB
Six year deal.... Your move Glen Sather
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Sep 11 @ 6:56 PM ET
A message from Cody Hodgson. https://t.co/ByGf7pn9YB
Six year deal.... Your move Glen Sather

- airjan23

That's not good news for the Rangers. I do hope it moves this negotiation along to a quick end.
pcjr307
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 07.13.2007

Sep 11 @ 7:06 PM ET
A message from Cody Hodgson. https://t.co/ByGf7pn9YB
Six year deal.... Your move Glen Sather

- airjan23


Not good
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Sep 11 @ 7:39 PM ET
A message from Cody Hodgson. https://t.co/ByGf7pn9YB
Six year deal.... Your move Glen Sather

- airjan23

Isn't it odd that the traditionally smaller market clubs, or if you prefer, teams that may not always spend to the cap, like Buffalo and New Jersey are the ones committing big dollars on long term deals on less proven players while the big market teams who annually spend to the cap are forced to try to cram their young players under the cap?

I understand that clubs like Buffalo and New Jersey are taking calculated risks signing those deals now hoping to reap the rewards of superstar players making well below-market salaries but the downside if Hodgson or Henrique don't turn into legit top centers or suffer injury can put each of these programs in a big hole.

This whole situation seems bass-ackwards to me.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Sep 11 @ 7:53 PM ET
Isn't it odd that the traditionally smaller market clubs, or if you prefer, teams that may not always spend to the cap, like Buffalo and New Jersey are the ones committing big dollars on long term deals on less proven players while the big market teams who annually spend to the cap are forced to try to cram their young players under the cap?

I understand that clubs like Buffalo and New Jersey are taking calculated risks signing those deals now hoping to reap the rewards of superstar players making well below-market salaries but the downside if Hodgson or Henrique don't turn into legit top centers or suffer injury can put each of these programs in a big hole.

This whole situation seems bass-ackwards to me.

- gkmkiller

NJ always spends to the cap on mediocre players.
TrueBlue9182
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 02.04.2010

Sep 11 @ 7:54 PM ET
Isn't it odd that the traditionally smaller market clubs, or if you prefer, teams that may not always spend to the cap, like Buffalo and New Jersey are the ones committing big dollars on long term deals on less proven players while the big market teams who annually spend to the cap are forced to try to cram their young players under the cap?

I understand that clubs like Buffalo and New Jersey are taking calculated risks signing those deals now hoping to reap the rewards of superstar players making well below-market salaries but the downside if Hodgson or Henrique don't turn into legit top centers or suffer injury can put each of these programs in a big hole.

This whole situation seems bass-ackwards to me.

- gkmkiller


Perhaps with the complance buyouts now part of the CBA, the smaller teams
Feel like they have less to lose in a long term deal thatsy not work out.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Sep 11 @ 7:56 PM ET
Perhaps with the complance buyouts now part of the CBA, the smaller teams
Feel like they have less to lose in a long term deal thatsy not work out.

- TrueBlue9182

Compliance buyouts were only allowed this summer and next. No way that either club would use that buyout on either player even if each had a bad season.
TrueBlue9182
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 02.04.2010

Sep 11 @ 8:03 PM ET
Compliance buyouts were only allowed this summer and next. No way that either club would use that buyout on either player even if each had a bad season.
- gkmkiller


Interesting. I didnt realize it ended after next season.

Now everything makes sense. Hard to see how the rangers don't buyout richards next year with that being the case.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Sep 11 @ 8:04 PM ET
Compliance buyouts were only allowed this summer and next. No way that either club would use that buyout on either player even if each had a bad season.
- gkmkiller

I thought it was only for contracts signed under the old CBA? Could you even use a compliance buyout on someone signed this year or last?
pcjr307
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 07.13.2007

Sep 11 @ 8:07 PM ET
Isn't it odd that the traditionally smaller market clubs, or if you prefer, teams that may not always spend to the cap, like Buffalo and New Jersey are the ones committing big dollars on long term deals on less proven players while the big market teams who annually spend to the cap are forced to try to cram their young players under the cap?

I understand that clubs like Buffalo and New Jersey are taking calculated risks signing those deals now hoping to reap the rewards of superstar players making well below-market salaries but the downside if Hodgson or Henrique don't turn into legit top centers or suffer injury can put each of these programs in a big hole.

This whole situation seems bass-ackwards to me.

- gkmkiller



Definitely a big risk, hoping these guys make the last few years look like a steal. If they play like they think they are going to play in their careers it's possible they fear these guys will get to be big stars and demand outrageous money and bolt for a bigger market so lock them up for as long as possible and pray you're right.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Sep 11 @ 8:12 PM ET
I thought it was only for contracts signed under the old CBA? Could you even use a compliance buyout on someone signed this year or last?
- TPC

What you say would make sense since it is referred to as a "Compliance Buyout" but I am not 100% sure.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

Sep 11 @ 8:14 PM ET
Definitely a big risk, hoping these guys make the last few years look like a steal. If they play like they think they are going to play in their careers it's possible they fear these guys will get to be big stars and demand outrageous money and bolt for a bigger market so lock them up for as long as possible and pray you're right.
- pcjr307

You have to be right in your evaluations of your players far more often than not. Because if they are wrong they will be hamstrung for years to come.
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