Jan Levine: Traverse City Roster and Hockey Prospectus Top-10 Rangers Prospects My views on what I hope to see at Traverse City and take on the prospects

Are the Rangers running out of patience with Kreider, or just some of the fanbase?

Pretty pissed MSG isnt airing this tourny.. What else do they have, re-runs of 1970 knick games or that stupid show with JB Smoove?

Anyway, im looking forward to seeing Kristo, the Habs are quickly becoming my favorite trading partner.

Jan Levine: Traverse City Roster and Hockey Prospectus Top-10 Rangers Prospects
My views on what I hope to see at Traverse City and take on the prospects
- airjan23

In all seriousness how is Kreider considered still a prospect while JT Miller isn't? Buchnevich at 3 is a joke.

In all seriousness how is Kreider considered still a prospect while JT Miller isn't? Buchnevich at 3 is a joke.
- blacksheep1

This is basically Kreiders third season? Hes like the longest reigning rookie in the league

This is basically Kreiders third season? Hes like the longest reigning rookie in the league
- mighty13duck

It is a bit unusual? Wonder what the criteria is? Still think he's going to be good. If I was a ranger fan I'd be hoping the team doesn't give up on him.

This is basically Kreiders third season? Hes like the longest reigning rookie in the league
- mighty13duck

26 nhl playoff games, 23 nhl regular season games.

26 nhl playoff games, 23 nhl regular season games.
- blacksheep1

But he has played somewhat the last three years? Why did Torts keep moving him back to the minors. Dumb move by him. Either keep him up or leave him down.

It is a bit unusual? Wonder what the criteria is? Still think he's going to be good. If I was a ranger fan I'd be hoping the team doesn't give up on him.
- Cptmjl

I think this is a make or break year for him. Kind of like Poulin.

"We all hope the latter occurs, but even if not, the pipeline should provide several players that can either help the parent club of be used in other deals."

I think you mean the "former," unless you want them to bust...

"We all hope the latter occurs, but even if not, the pipeline should provide several players that can either help the parent club of be used in other deals."

I think you mean the "former," unless you want them to bust...
- Suckmysweatybawls

I viewed bust out as the positive not negative connotation of the word, meaning explode on the scene not fizzle out.

It is a bit unusual? Wonder what the criteria is? Still think he's going to be good. If I was a ranger fan I'd be hoping the team doesn't give up on him.
- Cptmjl

Think 25 regular season games may have been the cut off, why Miller was not on the list buit Kreider still can be. Also, remember in Torts' system, defense came first, which is why he may have struggled. Under AV, with offensive and defensive zone match ups and focus, Kreider should see lots of time in the opponents zone. If he doesn't make it now, then it may be time to major-league downgrade him.

I think this is a make or break year for him. Kind of like Poulin.
- mighty13duck

It's definitely not a make or break year for him. This will be Kreiders FIRST NHL training camp and second full year as pro. It's odd how NHL still considers him a rookie but hey do since playoff appearances don't count. Last season was a mess for a lot of people and Torts didn't have much patience with him, considering the team was so up and down and fighting to even make the playoffs I'm not surprised. He needs to play top 6 minutes and I think he's a lock to make the team in that spot, he'll at least have to fill in with Hagelin and Cally missing and we'll find out if he sticks. I also think Kreider is closer than Miller is for a regular spot.

It's definitely not a make or break year for him. This will be Kreiders FIRST NHL training camp and second full year as pro. It's odd how NHL still considers him a rookie but hey do since playoff appearances don't count. Last season was a mess for a lot of people and Torts didn't have much patience with him, considering the team was so up and down and fighting to even make the playoffs I'm not surprised. He needs to play top 6 minutes and I think he's a lock to make the team in that spot, he'll at least have to fill in with Hagelin and Cally missing and we'll find out if he sticks. I also think Kreider is closer than Miller is for a regular spot.
- MatzCT

What I meant was a make or break year for him as a Ranger. If he downgrades or stays the same, Sather will probably trade him.

Think 25 regular season games may have been the cut off, why Miller was not on the list buit Kreider still can be. Also, remember in Torts' system, defense came first, which is why he may have struggled. Under AV, with offensive and defensive zone match ups and focus, Kreider should see lots of time in the opponents zone. If he doesn't make it now, then it may be time to major-league downgrade him.
- airjan23

Yeah i guess you're right as long as he gets the opportunity to succeed(as far as ice time and decent players on his line). I think you're also right about him fitting into AV's up tempo style. Kid has some wheels and decent hands. I think you guys may see a different Kreider this year( ).

What I meant was a make or break year for him as a Ranger. If he downgrades or stays the same, Sather will probably trade him.
- mighty13duck

Yeah maybe, i think he has a longer leash though considering the impact he made in the playoffs for us in 2012. Sather hasn't really been trading our best prospects recently and given them sometime. He's really the only goal scoring power forward type that's close to being ready. I don't see anyone else for 2-3 years in our system that's comperable to him. I personally think Miller will be a Mike Richards or Dubynski type player so more of a two way forward with less goal scoring talent so Kreider will get all the chances to stick.

Yeah i guess you're right as long as he gets the opportunity to succeed(as far as ice time and decent players on his line). I think you're also right about him fitting into AV's up tempo style. Kid has some wheels and decent hands. I think you guys may see a different Kreider this year( ).
- Cptmjl

I'd really love to see him get a chance to play with Stepan or Nash, they seemd to have some chemistry but never really played together enough with Torts short leash this year.

Outside of Nash, we don't have another sniper type player and Kreider has shown glimpses of that, so fingers are crossed he'll be utilized better. One thing I couldn't stand was Torts constant line juggling.

This is basically Kreiders third season? Hes like the longest reigning rookie in the league
- mighty13duck

well, you can't blame him for the lockout last year

"We all hope the latter occurs, but even if not, the pipeline should provide several players that can either help the parent club of be used in other deals."

I think you mean the "former," unless you want them to bust...
- Suckmysweatybawls

stop trying to sound not stupid

I'd really love to see him get a chance to play with Stepan or Nash, they seemd to have some chemistry but never really played together enough with Torts short leash this year.

Outside of Nash, we don't have another sniper type player and Kreider has shown glimpses of that, so fingers are crossed he'll be utilized better. One thing I couldn't stand was Torts constant line juggling.
- MatzCT

nice chemistry here with Nash and Kreider

In all seriousness how is Kreider considered still a prospect while JT Miller isn't? Buchnevich at 3 is a joke.
- blacksheep1

Good point, makes you wonder if miller is still having issues with that wrist.

well, you can't blame him for the lockout last year
- jimbro83

He didn't play a game in the 11-12 reg season, his first NHL game was in the Ottowa series, so no way he could have been considered a rookie that yr, last yr was lockout & he was up & down 20 times. I know you know this, don't know why I chose to quote you.

So, how ya doin?

stop trying to sound not stupid
- Crimsoninja

Its just good to see cheater back round here.

Shocker.

http://www.cbssports.com/...-could-miss-several-weeks

He didn't play a game in the 11-12 reg season, his first NHL game was in the Ottowa series, so no way he could have been considered a rookie that yr, last yr was lockout & he was up & down 20 times. I know you know this, don't know why I chose to quote you.

So, how ya doin?
- B2B76