Dan Petriw: Under Pressure: the Islander Forward with the most to prove

This comes back to the everlasting question - is Moulson a product of Tavares?


I think YES to most degrees - Tavares drives the offense and Moulson picks up the scraps. I think Moulson will have to find a stronger defensive game to aid his offensive game.

I think he gets resigned but somewhere along the lines of 3 year, $18m. He will be into his 30s by then and Tavares will have younger, faster, better players on either side of him (see: Strome, Ryan).

This comes back to the everlasting question - is Moulson a product of Tavares?


I think YES to most degrees - Tavares drives the offense and Moulson picks up the scraps. I think Moulson will have to find a stronger defensive game to aid his offensive game.

I think he gets resigned but somewhere along the lines of 3 year, $18m. He will be into his 30s by then and Tavares will have younger, faster, better players on either side of him (see: Strome, Ryan).
- kcNYI

3 years at 6 million a year?? I wouldn't give him that even if he could back check. I like MM & 30 goal scorers dont grow on trees, but 2 years 9-10 mill is the most I would do with him at this point & that's only seeing how he comes out the gate.

XxNYIxX

I'm sure MM will be seeking a King's Ransom on the open market.

If the Isle's dont feel he's worth it. They shouldnt wait until the Trade Deadline to start feeling out offers. We all know what that will get us in return.

See if any of the kids make the team.

See how the beginning 1/4 of the season progresses.

If Strome or Nelson make the team and can provide enough offense. If Bailey and KO finally start lighting up the score sheet.

Well then... Start fielding offers for MM before Christmas.

BUT If Wang wants to open the piggy bank.

Then resign him. If not. Get something good in return. 30 goal scorers are a commodity in the NHL. We should be able to get something nice in return.

Moulson will be the latest version of PAP or Streit. If the team is in contention come deadline time, they'll hold onto him, as long as he's producing. If they're out of it (which I don't think they will be), they'll trade him for whatever they can get for him. If they hang onto him, they'll try to re-sign him on their terms. When the market will likely yield more for Moulson than the Isles will want to pay him, they'll let him walk. Honestly, with Strome, Lee, Nelson and others on the horizon up front, and maybe even cash to use on a UFA, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Moulson will be the latest version of PAP or Streit. If the team is in contention come deadline time, they'll hold onto him, as long as he's producing. If they're out of it (which I don't think they will be), they'll trade him for whatever they can get for him. If they hang onto him, they'll try to re-sign him on their terms. When the market will likely yield more for Moulson than the Isles will want to pay him, they'll let him walk. Honestly, with Strome, Lee, Nelson and others on the horizon up front, and maybe even cash to use on a UFA, it wouldn't be the end of the world.
- Jethro09

But it would be a problem, a team that is rebuilding can not let assets walk for nothing & a perennial 30 goal scorer has value on the market. Value the GM can not let walk away for nothing.

XxNYIxX

But it would be a problem, a team that is rebuilding can not let assets walk for nothing & a perennial 30 goal scorer has value on the market. Value the GM can not let walk away for nothing.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

that's why gath is going to have such a difficult decision. I think snow has to set a value..ie 1st rounder..A prospect whatever..but set a value and if he doesn't get close to it..you gotta hold on to him...

This comes back to the everlasting question - is Moulson a product of Tavares?


I think YES to most degrees - Tavares drives the offense and Moulson picks up the scraps. I think Moulson will have to find a stronger defensive game to aid his offensive game.

I think he gets resigned but somewhere along the lines of 3 year, $18m. He will be into his 30s by then and Tavares will have younger, faster, better players on either side of him (see: Strome, Ryan).
- kcNYI

If Moulson isn't going to play on JT's wing, he has little to no value on this team. Moulson's best assets are his personality and nose for the net. That second quality dramatically decreases based on the talent dropoff around him. Just like any garbage man player, you're going to score a lot more goals standing in the crease with a guy like JT than you will with Frans Nielsen. So the idea of 3 years @ $18 million is way overpriced IMO for Moulson and insane if he's not going to be married to the top line for the next few years. He lacks too many other skillsets to rationalize that type of contract.


Xxkeaner17xX

This comes back to the everlasting question - is Moulson a product of Tavares?


I think YES to most degrees - Tavares drives the offense and Moulson picks up the scraps. I think Moulson will have to find a stronger defensive game to aid his offensive game.

I think he gets resigned but somewhere along the lines of 3 year, $18m. He will be into his 30s by then and Tavares will have younger, faster, better players on either side of him (see: Strome, Ryan).
- kcNYI

oh god i hope not.

id trade him if there are guys that have shown they can take his spot...

But it would be a problem, a team that is rebuilding can not let assets walk for nothing & a perennial 30 goal scorer has value on the market. Value the GM can not let walk away for nothing.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

Look at the M.O.: Snow let PAP walk for zero and traded streit's rights for a mid-round pick. If the team is in a playoff spot or in contention for one come the deadline, Snow is not going to trade away a 30-goal scorer unless he gets blown away with an offer. That's Snow's track record. Or, maybe he moves Moulson IF some of the kids (Nelson, Lee, Strome) or guys like Grabs, KO, or Bailey provide enough scoring to let Snow deal Moulson at the deadline to address a need or to get a solid pick back the other way.

I think the Islanders like Moulson as Moulson likes the Islanders. I think he signs a 3 year contract at $4.5-$5million per.

I think the Islanders like Moulson as Moulson likes the Islanders. I think he signs a 3 year contract at $4.5-$5million per.
- kear20

True. Moulson is not going anywhere. 4 years 16 million. Also this year I can seem him scoring around 30-35 goals again. Boyes was a key reason for his step back last season.

Congratulations Dan.

Congratulations Dan.
- canadianpenfan

thanks!!

Dan Petriw: Under Pressure: the Islander Forward with the most to prove
- Dan Petriw

Dan, I don't know how much pressure Moulson is under. I believe he will get his money he is after if not from the Islanders then someone else. Three year-30 goal scorers gets the $$$....

Congratulations Dan.
- canadianpenfan

Uh oh...it's the Fuzz...everyone scram!

True. Moulson is not going anywhere. 4 years 16 million. Also this year I can seem him scoring around 30-35 goals again. Boyes was a key reason for his step back last season.
- mighty13duck

Was it really a step back? He was on pace for right around his usual 30 goals and he was on a career high pace for points & Assists. If he is producing and they are right in the middle of it at the deadline they are not trading him unless somebody over pays. You can't trade him for picks if he is putting up his usual numbers. Gonna be a tough call for Snow

If moulson is smart he'll take a similar contract that pascal dupuis took. you have to know where you stand and i'm sure intelligent GMs wouldn't give a big money contract on the ufa market to this guy anyway.

Message to fantasy owners: if your in a continuous pool, trade this guy right now in case he wants to test fee agency, he will be useless on a team like new jersey.

Dan, I don't know how much pressure Moulson is under. I believe he will get his money he is after if not from the Islanders then someone else. Three year-30 goal scorers gets the $$$....
- kear20

if he wants to stay an islander he is under pressure...if jt was making me rich I wouldn't want to leave that situation...its a crossroads year for him...is he part of the future or is he PA 2.0??

Was it really a step back? He was on pace for right around his usual 30 goals and he was on a career high pace for points & Assists. If he is producing and they are right in the middle of it at the deadline they are not trading him unless somebody over pays. You can't trade him for picks if he is putting up his usual numbers. Gonna be a tough call for Snow
- Vukota

great post..

Was it really a step back? He was on pace for right around his usual 30 goals and he was on a career high pace for points & Assists. If he is producing and they are right in the middle of it at the deadline they are not trading him unless somebody over pays. You can't trade him for picks if he is putting up his usual numbers. Gonna be a tough call for Snow
- Vukota

Very true. Streit is the perfect example. We could have gotten some value but ultimately knew having him for the playoff run was more importent. That said, the Isles need to work his extension out fast if they plan to make him a long term member of this team. Otherwise, they need to start putting out feelers while the iron is hot.

Sure Moulson has put up big numbers over the last few years, but I found his performance down the stretch and in the playoffs very disturbing. He looked completely overwhelmed and was a virtual non factor when crunch time came. He was arguably the worst player on the ice during that stretch. What concerns me is that this may indicate, when other teams turn their game up a notch, a player like Moulson has difficulty doing the same since he's always giving it his all regardless.


Xxkeaner17xX

Dan, I don't know how much pressure Moulson is under. I believe he will get his money he is after if not from the Islanders then someone else. Three year-30 goal scorers gets the $$$....
- kear20

there are exceptions aka Michael Ryder, Dustin Penner...though theyre not as consistent as Moulson of course

True. Moulson is not going anywhere. 4 years 16 million. Also this year I can seem him scoring around 30-35 goals again. Boyes was a key reason for his step back last season.
- mighty13duck

I think he'll end up getting 4.8 mil per for 3 years to stay an Islander. I really believe Moulson is a guy who wants to be part of this team and realizes that this team gave him a shot and that he wants to continue to play with Tavares.

Snow seems to find a way to get loyal players under great contracts, I think Moulson will be another of those. Whether he's worth it if he's not playing with Tavares is a legit question. I don't see him going anywhere unless Snow decides to unload him in a deal.

I think he'll end up getting 4.8 mil per for 3 years to stay an Islander. I really believe Moulson is a guy who wants to be part of this team and realizes that this team gave him a shot and that he wants to continue to play with Tavares.

Snow seems to find a way to get loyal players under great contracts, I think Moulson will be another of those. Whether he's worth it if he's not playing with Tavares is a legit question. I don't see him going anywhere unless Snow decides to unload him in a deal.
- Isles_since_6

Even if he has a down year I see Snow resigning him. The team and the player have a very good relationship, and I honestly cant see him playing anywhere else. I think he will retire an Islander.

I would be willling to bet when Moulson resigns he is going to get 5-6M AAV as opposed to 4-5M AAV. EDIT: By resign, I mean with the Islanders or with another team.

Joe Pavelski got 6M AAV.

Those claiming Moulson is a product of Tavares are also the ones who claimed the same of Parenteau. He scored 44 points in 48 games last year.

I'm not saying conclusively Moulson isn't a product of Tavares, but rather showing why that train of thought might be wrong as a reason why he would take a pay cut to stay with Tavares.

Then again, Parenteau signed for 4years/16M... But Moulson has 3 30+ goal seasons, and as mentioned 30 goal scorers are a commodity.