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Joined: 07.26.2011

Aug 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Hotstove: Goal Line Technology?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 19 @ 5:55 PM ET
The problem is the NHL rule book itself and one very specific issue that I don't know will ever help as long as it's here. That is the intent to blow a whistle. So the puck is under the goalie, puck goes in via new technology but how do we know it's before the ref wanted to blow the whistle?
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Aug 20 @ 8:15 AM ET
oh great... lahey's thinking now....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 20 @ 8:56 AM ET
If there was some sort of technology to make the puck "glow" that would solve all of the problems.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 20 @ 9:36 AM ET
oh great... lahey's thinking now....
- dt99999

All dopps fault
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
Soccer ball into a 90 x 20 ft net is easier to see than a small rubber disk sliding behind a man with huge pads 6 x 4 net. Only way would be to have a transmitter inside of the puck and a sensor buried under the ice at a radius of the puck past the goal line (or inside of the net itself).
jnwood2517
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 01.27.2009

Aug 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Hotstove: Goal Line Technology?
- Travis.Yost

I'm fine with it. Don't see an issue at all.

Of course, refs would obviously still be able to overrule the goal by calling the play dead if need be.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Aug 20 @ 2:38 PM ET
One unique challenge that hockey has over other sports is the shape of the puck. Even a sensor in the puck couldn't be 100% accurate. A puck laying flat could have an edge still on the line, but a puck on edge could be completely past the line. A sensor in the puck would somehow have to be able to not only tell where the puck is at, but also how it's positioned.

I guess you could set the goal sensor back enough so that any puck that reached it, would physically have to have crossed the line, but it would still leave some question of pucks that are basically right at the line.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Aug 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
One unique challenge that hockey has over other sports is the shape of the puck. Even a sensor in the puck couldn't be 100% accurate. A puck laying flat could have an edge still on the line, but a puck on edge could be completely past the line. A sensor in the puck would somehow have to be able to not only tell where the puck is at, but also how it's positioned.

I guess you could set the goal sensor back enough so that any puck that reached it, would physically have to have crossed the line, but it would still leave some question of pucks that are basically right at the line.

- rival22

you could also just leave it like it is and let that poop even out...
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Aug 21 @ 9:54 AM ET
you could also just leave it like it is and let that poop even out...
- dt99999

I didn't even think we had a problem to where we needed this technology.

Soccer didn't have video replay, so they implemented this technology.

Hockey already has video replay which is good enough to over turn many calls, or count goals when they should. The only few odd calls that video can't tell if it went in, then it shouldn't be counted as a goal. Chances are with new technology, it would mess it up anyway.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
I think there has to be a better way for Hockey. If you imbed a micro-chip into the puck and set up sensors on the goal posts, a system should be able to tell when said sensor breaks the plane of the goal posts. And that includes when the puck is in the goalies glove or under his body, something the camera system wouldnt be able to tell. It could also be used to sense when the net comes loose. Seems too simple to me. Not sure why it's not in place....
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 21 @ 12:47 PM ET
One unique challenge that hockey has over other sports is the shape of the puck. Even a sensor in the puck couldn't be 100% accurate. A puck laying flat could have an edge still on the line, but a puck on edge could be completely past the line. A sensor in the puck would somehow have to be able to not only tell where the puck is at, but also how it's positioned.

I guess you could set the goal sensor back enough so that any puck that reached it, would physically have to have crossed the line, but it would still leave some question of pucks that are basically right at the line.

- rival22


Or the sensor could take the dimensions of the puck into account.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 21 @ 12:50 PM ET
I didn't even think we had a problem to where we needed this technology.

Soccer didn't have video replay, so they implemented this technology.

Hockey already has video replay which is good enough to over turn many calls, or count goals when they should. The only few odd calls that video can't tell if it went in, then it shouldn't be counted as a goal. Chances are with new technology, it would mess it up anyway.

- l3ig_l2ecl


I disagree. I think there are many goals that even reply can't get right because your not able to see the puck, whether its in the goalies glove, or under a player sliding into the net. It would not be the ref's job to call a goal or not anymore, just to call play dead when the goalie has the puck.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Aug 22 @ 8:50 AM ET
RF technology could easily be implemented. All they'd have to do is put a chip into the center of the puck, or six on the edges of the puck, and install censors into the ice and the net that'll signal a goal, only active while the clock is running. RF doesn't have sight issues. If they can install this in stores, they can install them in hockey but use RF tech rather than magnets. They could also put a signal into whistles so that when they're blown, the clock stops running automatically, so that you have no "intent to blow the whistle" garbage.

That way, if a goal is scored while the clock is running, the signal could set off the horn and everyone could cheer without the referees getting in the way UNLESS they call off the goal due to goaltender interference or a kick in.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 24 @ 9:31 AM ET
I'd be all for it. We've all seen multiple instances of plays where a goal is inconclusive because the puck is visually obscured under a goalies glove or pad but where common sense suggests it is very likely over the line, you just can't see it.

One question though about a sensor inside the puck - is that even possible? Is a puck with a sensor in it going to continue to keep working after hitting a post at 100 miles per hour? Just curious about that, and if so I want the company that makes that device to make my cellphone.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Aug 25 @ 8:27 AM ET
One unique challenge that hockey has over other sports is the shape of the puck. Even a sensor in the puck couldn't be 100% accurate. A puck laying flat could have an edge still on the line, but a puck on edge could be completely past the line. A sensor in the puck would somehow have to be able to not only tell where the puck is at, but also how it's positioned.

I guess you could set the goal sensor back enough so that any puck that reached it, would physically have to have crossed the line, but it would still leave some question of pucks that are basically right at the line.

- rival22

i always championed the square puck
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Aug 25 @ 9:07 AM ET
i always championed the square puck
- Flyfreaky