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GARTH'S CORNER
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @SabresBuzz
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 28 @ 9:43 PM ET
GARTH: Minnesota Can't Afford Vanek Right Now
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 28 @ 9:51 PM ET
What if the Sabres took Danny Heatley in the trade package from the Wild? One large contract for another.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 28 @ 9:52 PM ET
Don't think Sabres will take heatley back
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jul 28 @ 9:55 PM ET
Darcy said he will take no salary back for Vanek or Miller.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 28 @ 9:56 PM ET
Don't think Sabres will take heatley back
- Beezer33


Any idea how many years he has left on his contract? One year left is what I think, but could be wrong. If he only has one year left in his deal and the Wild bribed the Sabres enough with the rest of the players/pieces they put in the deal, then I'd do it. Of course the Wild should just wait until after this season and sign Vanek without giving up anything.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 28 @ 9:59 PM ET
Um, duh?

Tweaterben
Minnesota Wild
Location: PROFESSIONAL CHOKE ARTISTS, MN
Joined: 10.19.2008

Jul 28 @ 10:04 PM ET
Inevitable the Parise/Suter signing would bite us. But well worth it I think. As far as Vanek goes, I'm not sure if he will sign with Minni in the off season, the Wild will tie up to much money into to few players. I think the Wild's elite salaries are all filled up for a while. Even with dropping under producing Heatley...
sabresfandan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tim Murray is bad a$$, NY
Joined: 06.16.2007

Jul 28 @ 10:05 PM ET
Darcy said he will take no salary back for Vanek or Miller.
- sippyd

Unfortunately I think Darcy is done for the summer once he gets Coho resigned.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:08 PM ET
Unfortunately I think Darcy is done for the summer once he gets Coho resigned.
- sabresfandan


I still think Vanek, Miller or Stafford will be dealt before training camp but I was so sure a trade was going to be made at the draft, so who knows.
sabresfandan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tim Murray is bad a$$, NY
Joined: 06.16.2007

Jul 28 @ 10:09 PM ET
I still think Vanek, Miller or Stafford will be dealt before training camp but I was so sure a trade was going to be made at the draft, so who knows.
- GilPerreault11

I wish something would happen but honestly at this point the trade market always goes very quiet as we head into August.
sabresfandan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tim Murray is bad a$$, NY
Joined: 06.16.2007

Jul 28 @ 10:10 PM ET
I still think Vanek, Miller or Stafford will be dealt before training camp but I was so sure a trade was going to be made at the draft, so who knows.
- GilPerreault11

Last I heard from Homer as of like a week ago he said he hadn't heard a peep.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:14 PM ET
Last I heard from Homer as of like a week ago he said he hadn't heard a peep.
- sabresfandan


Yeah, I saw that too, but I expect a trade to be made when we least expect it.
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 28 @ 10:23 PM ET
the wild lost 30 mill and were a fringe playoff team. what teams make money in the league? seriously, like toronto, montreal....
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:24 PM ET
how about cammelleri/granlund for heatley/coyle (would like to say doumba by that might mean its gaudreau going your way).

cammy for heatley is kind of a wash sallary wise. And if anything its in Minny's favour.

leafs2
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:31 PM ET
Enough already.... Same shi%t with this guy every dam day. Pathetic.
lomez
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.20.2005

Jul 28 @ 10:34 PM ET
Bigger question. Can Ek really afford two Sabres bloggers right now? You guys are seriously out of control...
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:37 PM ET
the wild lost 30 mill and were a fringe playoff team. what teams make money in the league? seriously, like toronto, montreal....
- Jurco_28


The Bruins because Jeremy Jacobs doesn't lose money, maybe the Rangers, maybe Chicago but only within the last 5 years or so, Detroit? The original six probably doesn't lose much money if at all, who outside the Original Six doesn't lose money?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:37 PM ET
the wild lost 30 mill and were a fringe playoff team. what teams make money in the league? seriously, like toronto, montreal....
- Jurco_28


17/30 teams had a positive operating income " and a few teams broke even.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:38 PM ET
The Bruins because Jeremy Jacobs doesn't lose money, maybe the Rangers, maybe Chicago but only within the last 5 years or so, Detroit? The original six probably doesn't lose much money if at all, who outside the Original Six doesn't lose money?
- GilPerreault11


Flyers did surprisingly well this year in terms of operating income given how they did in the standings.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 28 @ 10:42 PM ET
Inevitable the Parise/Suter signing would bite us. But well worth it I think. As far as Vanek goes, I'm not sure if he will sign with Minni in the off season, the Wild will tie up to much money into to few players. I think the Wild's elite salaries are all filled up for a while. Even with dropping under producing Heatley...
- Tweaterben



Well said
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jul 28 @ 10:44 PM ET
Because of the cap, all Darcy can do is wait till the trade deadline. He should have done something long ago, before teams ran out of cap space. Figures.
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:47 PM ET
I still think Vanek, Miller or Stafford will be dealt before training camp but I was so sure a trade was going to be made at the draft, so who knows.
- GilPerreault11


Stafford was awful last year, didn't watch him every night but he didn't look that great and his stats are just not good. Add in the fact he comes with a 4m cap hit I'm not sure you'll find a taker. If you do it won't be for anything of value really. Might as well let him play and deal him at the deadline if he starts hot, maybe you get somethin that way.
dgutzman
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jul 28 @ 10:49 PM ET
If you look ahead to next year, yes, Minny has $22+ million. And you also have to assume that the cap will go up 2 or 3 million. So assume you have $25 million. Of course, Minny also only has 14 players signed for next year. My guess is that they only spend 15 million of the 25 next year. The reason? They will need at least 15-20 million in cap space the following year to sign the following players: Brodziak, Granlund, Coyle, Brodin, and Scandella. It will be 2015/2016 before Suter/Parise's actual dollars come down to the point where it won't be a financial burden on Lieopold.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:59 PM ET
If you look ahead to next year, yes, Minny has $22+ million. And you also have to assume that the cap will go up 2 or 3 million. So assume you have $25 million. Of course, Minny also only has 14 players signed for next year. My guess is that they only spend 15 million of the 25 next year. The reason? They will need at least 15-20 million in cap space the following year to sign the following players: Brodziak, Granlund, Coyle, Brodin, and Scandella. It will be 2015/2016 before Suter/Parise's actual dollars come down to the point where it won't be a financial burden on Lieopold.
- dgutzman


Makes you wonder if Vanek is even a possibility for Minnesota.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jul 28 @ 11:00 PM ET
If you look ahead to next year, yes, Minny has $22+ million. And you also have to assume that the cap will go up 2 or 3 million. So assume you have $25 million. Of course, Minny also only has 14 players signed for next year. My guess is that they only spend 15 million of the 25 next year. The reason? They will need at least 15-20 million in cap space the following year to sign the following players: Brodziak, Granlund, Coyle, Brodin, and Scandella. It will be 2015/2016 before Suter/Parise's actual dollars come down to the point where it won't be a financial burden on Lieopold.
- dgutzman


The cap will likely rise back to $70M+ for the 14-15 season. If the NHL didnt have a lockout, they were on pace to break $4B in HRR which is $0.8B more than they made in 11-12. Next season the NHL will probably make no less than $4.5B in HRR. Especially with all the outdoor games.
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