Jason Lewis: Quick The Best? At Least One Writer Thinks So

Those are some sweet kudos. But until he proves otherwise, I think Hank still gets the nod imho.

Jason Lewis: Quick The Best? At Least One Writer Thinks So
- Jason_Lewis

Another good read........I was scratching my a head a little at first but you bring up a good point .......I agree, looking forward you have to choose quick. Wear the gm hat, and you have the choice of the two....quick is the pic.

Brian Elliott is not the Blues starter.

Those are some sweet kudos. But until he proves otherwise, I think Hank still gets the nod imho.
- cryptical77

I think its pretty damn close though.

one area that hank doesnt match up(stats wise) is the playoffs.

Henrik -2.28ga, .920sv & 8 SO's.
-67 games to reach 30 W's.

Quick -2.03ga, .930sv & 7 SO's.
-50 games to reach 29 W's.
-1 Stanley Cup

I will say that I believe that those are the top 4. And I would probably put Quick on the top of my list.

Quick
Rask, Hank, Rinne all close behind, and I think I would rank them in that order, but so close 2-4 that I could change that order pretty easily.

When you look at career numbers so far, Quick with almost half the games played is sporting a save-percentage just .05 less than Lundqvist. (.915, .920 respectively).
- Jason_Lewis

Quick correction (pun intended). .920 - .915 = .005, not .05. If it were .05 less, Quick would have a .870 SV%, and then his name would be Marc-Andre Fleury.

Craig Anderson at 12 is just ignorant.

You should consider that Quick has been predominantly in a fairly weak Pacific division his entire career. Lundqvist has been in arguably the most competitive for his entire career. Lundqvist also has faced the league's premier offensive scorers much more often every season than Quick (Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Stamkos). Lundqvist played the first 4 years of his career with a team that was rebuilt through the draft. Lundqvist with the exception of a few years with Jagr, has been primarily playing in a system that suppresses offensive production and relies heavily on defense and goaltending. This creates more pressure, more mistake opportunities, more dynamic saves needed. The quality of chances against Lundqvist are higher. When your offense doesn't have the ability to keep play in the other end of the ice and your forced to constantly defend and collapse and counterattack, it strains the goalie that much more. Despite all of this, Lundqvist continues to be the most consistent performing goalie in the NHL over his career. I think many of these opinions and questions will be answered next season. Rangers will have a totally different system that should by my account, relieve pressure from Lundqvist which could see his numbers soar even higher. The divisions have changed making the competition different (but I still think the "Metro" division is a lot harder than the Pacific). Either ways, I still think Hank edges out Quick over the crown right now. And also looking at skill itself, best defined by shootout performance, Hank is the best.

You should consider that Quick has been predominantly in a fairly weak Pacific division his entire career. Lundqvist has been in arguably the most competitive for his entire career. Lundqvist also has faced the league's premier offensive scorers much more often every season than Quick (Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Stamkos). Lundqvist played the first 4 years of his career with a team that was rebuilt through the draft. Lundqvist with the exception of a few years with Jagr, has been primarily playing in a system that suppresses offensive production and relies heavily on defense and goaltending. This creates more pressure, more mistake opportunities, more dynamic saves needed. The quality of chances against Lundqvist are higher. When your offense doesn't have the ability to keep play in the other end of the ice and your forced to constantly defend and collapse and counterattack, it strains the goalie that much more. Despite all of this, Lundqvist continues to be the most consistent performing goalie in the NHL over his career. I think many of these opinions and questions will be answered next season. Rangers will have a totally different system that should by my account, relieve pressure from Lundqvist which could see his numbers soar even higher. The divisions have changed making the competition different (but I still think the "Metro" division is a lot harder than the Pacific). Either ways, I still think Hank edges out Quick over the crown right now. And also looking at skill itself, best defined by shootout performance, Hank is the best.
- xcheckmajor

The pacific may have been weaker (due to a few laughable clubs such as phoenix and dallas) but the western conference as a whole is a far better conference than the east as a whole. Yes the east has crybaby, ovechkin, malkin etc. But those are guys that play for themselves and their own stats. Teams in the west are waaaayyy better at the team game and thus play a more refined game. Hank is great, no doubt. But quick will leave him in the dust as his career goes on.

The pacific may have been weaker (due to a few laughable clubs such as phoenix and dallas) but the western conference as a whole is a far better conference than the east as a whole. Yes the east has crybaby, ovechkin, malkin etc. But those are guys that play for themselves and their own stats. Teams in the west are waaaayyy better at the team game and thus play a more refined game. Hank is great, no doubt. But quick will leave him in the dust as his career goes on.
- ElLayKINGS

You had me until then

[quote=xcheckmajor]You should consider that Quick has been predominantly in a fairly weak Pacific division his entire career.

That just ended the rest of your read with that first comment. Ignorant statement.

I think its pretty damn close though.
- Deadmau55

Agreed.

[quote=xcheckmajor]You should consider that Quick has been predominantly in a fairly weak Pacific division his entire career.

That just ended the rest of your read with that first comment. Ignorant statement.
- blk4x499

And ditto. Are we not only 2 years removed from Dallas missing the playoffs on the very last game of the year, and in so doing just missed having all 5 pacific teams in the postseason? Ignorant is an understatement.

I believe MIller is the best all around goalie in the league. Just hasn't had much of a team in front of him for years.

Quick is a close second.
As a leaf fan I get to see a lot more of Lunqvuist than Quick, so my observations may be biased. To me Lunqvuist can't steal games for you, and when the chips are down in the playoffs I'm not sure I want him between the pipes. Much rather have quick IMO.

Those are some sweet kudos. But until he proves otherwise, I think Hank still gets the nod imho.
- cryptical77

quick has 1 cuo hank has 0 argument ends

Oiler fans will tell you Dubnyk is the best. Hell last season after Quick struggled out of the gate, they were all saying they wouldn't trade Dubey for Quick - that's how freaking stupid they are!!

But ask them about Dubey & how great his numbers were yet no GM around the league even considers him a #1 goalie.

He's proven NOTHING!!!

I believe MIller is the best all around goalie in the league. Just hasn't had much of a team in front of him for years.

Quick is a close second.
As a leaf fan I get to see a lot more of Lunqvuist than Quick, so my observations may be biased. To me Lunqvuist can't steal games for you, and when the chips are down in the playoffs I'm not sure I want him between the pipes. Much rather have quick IMO.
- B-Wforever

I consider the Sabres the east coast team I follow the closest, and probably the team I follow closest outside of the Kings and Ducks (For work purposes ) and while I respect Miller for all the years of unbelivable service...he's on the outs in my opinion. Enroth and Hackett are the next coming in Buffalo. That's just my feeling though. You don't make that move and pick up Hackett if you plan on sticking with Miller for much longer.

Also call me crazy but I like Dubnyk. He's starting to come into his own with the positional style he plays, and if Edmonton can round out a better defensive squad I could see Dubnyk being one of the better goalies out there.

I consider the Sabres the east coast team I follow the closest, and probably the team I follow closest outside of the Kings and Ducks (For work purposes ) and while I respect Miller for all the years of unbelivable service...he's on the outs in my opinion. Enroth and Hackett are the next coming in Buffalo. That's just my feeling though. You don't make that move and pick up Hackett if you plan on sticking with Miller for much longer.

Also call me crazy but I like Dubnyk. He's starting to come into his own with the positional style he plays, and if Edmonton can round out a better defensive squad I could see Dubnyk being one of the better goalies out there.
- Jason_Lewis

Dubynk, I disagree. The guy lets too many easy goals in & it happens almost every game. Until he becomes consistent, he's nothing more than a good backup.

He's certainly not a proven #1 goalie by any stretch - but Oiler fans will beg to differ because they simply go by stats & not wins, which is the most important thing.

But again, they wouldn't trade Dubey for Quick anyways, he's just too much better than Quick in their minds.

Dubynk, I disagree. The guy lets too many easy goals in & it happens almost every game. Until he becomes consistent, he's nothing more than a good backup.

He's certainly not a proven #1 goalie by any stretch - but Oiler fans will beg to differ because they simply go by stats & not wins, which is the most important thing.

But again, they wouldn't trade Dubey for Quick anyways, he's just too much better than Quick in their minds.
- newmy

I'll agree he lets in far too many "Soft" goals in you could say. I would love for Edmonton to get a good honest solid defense just to see how he does under those circumstances. Until then, I can't neccessarily refute those who say he is not a No. 1 goaltender. After all look what that did for a guy like Mike Smith. With a good defense around him he's become a legit goalie.

The pacific may have been weaker (due to a few laughable clubs such as phoenix and dallas) but the western conference as a whole is a far better conference than the east as a whole. Yes the east has crybaby, ovechkin, malkin etc. But those are guys that play for themselves and their own stats. Teams in the west are waaaayyy better at the team game and thus play a more refined game. Hank is great, no doubt. But quick will leave him in the dust as his career goes on.
- ElLayKINGS

That's a ridiculous comment that has no basis in reality.

Oiler fans will tell you Dubnyk is the best. Hell last season after Quick struggled out of the gate, they were all saying they wouldn't trade Dubey for Quick - that's how freaking stupid they are!!

But ask them about Dubey & how great his numbers were yet no GM around the league even considers him a #1 goalie.

He's proven NOTHING!!!
- newmy

newmy knows this because he is in contact with Darren Dreger via texting so he's aware of the thoughts of all NHL GMs

EDM's SV% this year was .917%, good for tied-7th in the league with VAN, DET, and TO. How can Dubey be 24th?

I consider the Sabres the east coast team I follow the closest, and probably the team I follow closest outside of the Kings and Ducks (For work purposes ) and while I respect Miller for all the years of unbelivable service...he's on the outs in my opinion. Enroth and Hackett are the next coming in Buffalo. That's just my feeling though. You don't make that move and pick up Hackett if you plan on sticking with Miller for much longer.

Also call me crazy but I like Dubnyk. He's starting to come into his own with the positional style he plays, and if Edmonton can round out a better defensive squad I could see Dubnyk being one of the better goalies out there.
- Jason_Lewis

thank you. newmy has stopped being a closet oiler fan since we picked on him to the point of tears. He then claimed to frequently text Darren Dreger and know inside information. See my location

Jason Lewis: Quick The Best? At Least One Writer Thinks So
- Jason_Lewis

I'll be honest, the moment I saw Pavelec above Dubnyk, I stopped caring about that writer's opinion. I don't care who you are or what your biases, to say that Pavelec- Ondrej (frank)ING Pavelec- is currently a better goaltender than Dubnyk is ridiculous. He's far streakier, worse statistically, only marginally better technically, and has about 100 games of experience on Duby and has done so behind a stronger defensive corps (albeit a seemingly weaker defensive system).