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Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Jun 16 @ 12:31 PM ET
Mike Augello: Wise To Pursue Weiss??
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 12:35 PM ET
Mike Augello: Wise To Pursue Weiss??
- mikeinbuffalo



No. Stay away.

Weiss is not an upgrade.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 16 @ 12:35 PM ET
Mike Augello: Wise To Pursue Weiss??
- mikeinbuffalo

Hell no...
JamieS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leafs in the winter, Jays in t, ON
Joined: 12.01.2011

Jun 16 @ 12:36 PM ET
Can't see this being a wise sign.
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:36 PM ET
Yes. Absolutely, a much better all around player than Bozak. Not to mention he wants to play for the Leafs, as noted a couple years ago when he would only waive his NTC to go to Toronto, even when they weren't contenders.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 12:38 PM ET
Notes
Toronto Star’s Damien Cox reports that winger Leo Komarov will be getting $2.5 Million tax free from his new contract with Moscow Dynamo, which is three times the amount what he would earned in the NHL after taxes.

- mikeinbuffalo



Claude Loiselle said that Kormorov leaving was strictly financial. He didn't blame him for chasing the money. Said that his leaving creates a hole in the lineup that needs to be filled, and they will be able to fill it.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 12:39 PM ET
Yes. Absolutely, a much better all around player than Bozak. Not to mention he wants to play for the Leafs, as noted a couple years ago when he would only waive his NTC to go to Toronto, even when they weren't contenders.
- ThePresident




replacing a soft 2nd liner with a soft 2nd liner, who will bot be overpaid (weiss probably more so) is not smart.
DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
Mike Augello: Wise To Pursue Weiss??
- mikeinbuffalo


Wise, if the purpose is to help the rest of the division, yes.
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
hey mike, leafs don't have interest in filppula? i'd prefer him over weiss
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
hey mike, leafs don't have interest in filppula? i'd prefer him over weiss
- matt1337

That would be very prudent...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:48 PM ET
Wait two weeks and persue B Richards for 4 mil a year
Smurfs-A-Joke
Washington Capitals
Location: Markham, ON
Joined: 05.05.2013

Jun 16 @ 12:49 PM ET
replacing a soft 2nd liner with a soft 2nd liner, who will bot be overpaid (weiss probably more so) is not smart.
- burn

Bozak is a 3rd line though that's the difference. Weiss is actually a good playmaker. Who did he have on Florida? Bozak plays with Kessel and posts mediocre numbers. Rather have Weiss than Bozak. We need to trade Grabo and then sign Boyd Gordon for faceoffs.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
Kevin McGran ‏@kevin_mcgran 17h
Kadri tied for 38th in Selke voting. Bozak was 39th #NHLAwards
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Kevin McGran ‏@kevin_mcgran 17h
Here's bottom of Selke list. Note Kadri and Seguin got votes for Def. player #NHLAwards https://twitter.com/kevin...46043324655878144/photo/1


matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:51 PM ET
That would be very prudent...
- Flyfreaky


i think people forget hes a free agent cause he plays for detroit and they barely ever lose players
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:53 PM ET
replacing a soft 2nd liner with a soft 2nd liner, who will bot be overpaid (weiss probably more so) is not smart.
- burn


Bozak is not a 2nd liner, a 3rd liner at best who is being used in ways he's not supposed to be. For the past 3 years, all we heard was Bozak sucks, now suddenly after a half a season, he's irreplaceable, a real cog in the lineup. Give me a break. Bozak is a 2 million dollar player realistically, Weiss is a 4 million dollar player realistically. Weiss is more capable of holding down a 1st line, and then the 2nd line once we move Grabo, and Kadri progresses into a #1.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:54 PM ET
Weiss may not be any better than Bozak after his injuries, Stay away, This reminds me of the Tim Connolly deal, bring in someone who can maybe play with Kessel. Stupid.
DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 16 @ 12:55 PM ET
i think people forget hes a free agent cause he plays for detroit and they barely ever lose players
- matt1337


The Wings do have a lot of cap space.

Mmm... not so much, just checked.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 12:55 PM ET
Bozak is a 3rd line though that's the difference. Weiss is actually a good playmaker. Who did he have on Florida? Bozak plays with Kessel and posts mediocre numbers. Rather have Weiss than Bozak. We need to trade Grabo and then sign Boyd Gordon for faceoffs.
- Smurfs-A-Joke



Weiss sucks, and bozak isn't a 3rd liner. Doesn't fit the bill.

Weiss is a decent 2nd liner on a poor team who is playing 1st line.

Bozak is a mediocre 2nd liner on a poor team who is playing on the 1st line.


I want nothing to do with weiss (he's goingt o be more overpaid than bozak) and at least we know bozak fits here.

ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:55 PM ET
i think people forget hes a free agent cause he plays for detroit and they barely ever lose players
- matt1337


I think he's more of a product of the Detroit system, great players to play with, and great coaching. I don't see his success translation onto other teams.
JamieS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leafs in the winter, Jays in t, ON
Joined: 12.01.2011

Jun 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
Bozak is not a 2nd liner, a 3rd liner at best who is being used in ways he's not supposed to be. For the past 3 years, all we heard was Bozak sucks, now suddenly after a half a season, he's irreplaceable, a real cog in the lineup. Give me a break. Bozak is a 2 million dollar player realistically, Weiss is a 4 million dollar player realistically. Weiss is more capable of holding down a 1st line, and then the 2nd line once we move Grabo, and Kadri progresses into a #1.
- ThePresident

IF Weiss didn't just have a forgettable season requiring wrist surgery I'd think about it. But he has Connolly written all over him.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 12:57 PM ET
Bozak is not a 2nd liner, a 3rd liner at best who is being used in ways he's not supposed to be. For the past 3 years, all we heard was Bozak sucks, now suddenly after a half a season, he's irreplaceable, a real cog in the lineup. Give me a break. Bozak is a 2 million dollar player realistically, Weiss is a 4 million dollar player realistically. Weiss is more capable of holding down a 1st line, and then the 2nd line once we move Grabo, and Kadri progresses into a #1.
- ThePresident



Perhaps you are confused.... I'm not infavor of either as #1.... neither a remotely close to that level and and would struggle to be considered a 2nd liner on a playoff team.

bozak isn't a 3rd liner, that's not his game.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 16 @ 12:58 PM ET
I think he's more of a product of the Detroit system, great players to play with, and great coaching. I don't see his success translation onto other teams.
- ThePresident

He's a better option than Weiss...
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:02 PM ET
Perhaps you are confused.... I'm not infavor of either as #1.... neither a remotely close to that level and and would struggle to be considered a 2nd liner on a playoff team.

bozak isn't a 3rd liner, that's not his game.

- burn


As a 2nd liner, if that's what we're comparing them at, Weiss is the better player. More complete, better statistically, and he won't come as expensive as everybody thinks. Hell, I'd rather have him then Grabovski too. He's going to sign at below 5 million, probably 4.5, he wants to play for the Leafs only, he had an off season last year, not exactly able to ask for the moon, this situation isn't even comparable to Connolly. Weiss has always been at the forefront of the Panthers, Connolly disappears, and has always been in the background.
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
He's a better option than Weiss...
- Flyfreaky


yea thats for sure. 66 pts in 81 games a season ago, didn't play amazing this year so thhe price tag wouldnt be to much
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
The Wings do have a lot of cap space.

Mmm... not so much, just checked.

- DrRecchi


LOL @ your location, no need for Bozak or Weiss when we have Cinder Block to play #1 C
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