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Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jun 10 @ 7:47 PM ET
Matt Karash: Canes 2013 Eval Part 7: The Jeff Skinner blog
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 10 @ 7:51 PM ET
who do you think CAR takes if they stay at 5?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 10 @ 7:58 PM ET
Grossman for mcbain
Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jun 10 @ 8:51 PM ET
who do you think CAR takes if they stay at 5?
- TheNugeIsHuge


Everything points to picking the best available forward. Ideally I think they would prefer Nichushkin or Barkov over Drouin only because of size. (I'm assuming Jones and MacKinnon 1 & 2.)
Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jun 10 @ 8:53 PM ET
Grossman for mcbain
- Just5


We don't want Grossman's BIG $3.5M salary for a so far 3rd pairing dman. McBain has had his ups and downs and very likely could get traded, but at least at $1.8M he is priced about where he should be for a #5 or #6 dman.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 10 @ 9:00 PM ET
We don't want Grossman's BIG $3.5M salary for a so far 3rd pairing dman. McBain has had his ups and downs and very likely could get traded, but at least at $1.8M he is priced about where he should be for a #5 or #6 dman.
- CarolinaMatt63


Are yoU guys going to be that tight with the cap. I know your looking to get bigger on the back end right
Dissent
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Flavor Country
Joined: 03.28.2009

Jun 10 @ 9:02 PM ET
I'd love to see Skinner skating next to Duchene in Col. All that speed would be insane. I'm not sure how that'd get done unless you guys want Stastny and a couple of bags of pucks--perty sure we're not giving up our one decent defenseman (EJ), but who knows?
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 10 @ 9:06 PM ET
Not sure about the cap situations and what this trade would do for either team but if Skinner is still playing C or was he ever a C ? anyways if he is and or was would their be a trade to be had with Toronto for Gardiner ? You get a good D all though he is an offensive guy and they possibly get their number 1 C just not a big one lol
Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jun 10 @ 9:12 PM ET
I'd love to see Skinner skating next to Duchene in Col. All that speed would be insane. I'm not sure how that'd get done unless you guys want Stastny and a couple of bags of pucks--perty sure we're not giving up our one decent defenseman (EJ), but who knows?
- Dissent


I don't know what else would go either way, but any deal of that magnitude with Clr would include Erik Johnson in return. The Canes don't want the last year of Stastny's deal any more than you do.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 10 @ 9:24 PM ET
I'm surprised Garth hasn't done a Jeff Skinner blog yet (this year).
Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 10 @ 10:06 PM ET
I'm surprised Garth hasn't done a Jeff Skinner blog yet (this year).
- buffalofan19


Skinner for miller...
Dissent
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Flavor Country
Joined: 03.28.2009

Jun 10 @ 10:54 PM ET
I'm surprised Garth hasn't done a Jeff Skinner blog yet (this year).
- buffalofan19

Shhh...He'll hear you...
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 11 @ 12:18 AM ET
Skinner/Faulk, #5 to FLA for #2 and Kulikov.
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Jun 11 @ 12:27 AM ET
Skinner for miller...
- Crazycaboose


Seeing the buffalo thread that's probably too good an offer. Like Sekera and a 4th.
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Jun 11 @ 12:28 AM ET
Seeing the buffalo thread theyd probaby say that's too good an offer. Like Sekera and a 4th.
- TheLeafsInsider

Dissent
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Flavor Country
Joined: 03.28.2009

Jun 11 @ 12:36 AM ET
Skinner/Faulk, #5 to FLA for #2 and Kulikov.
- Panthers88

I'd make that move in a second if I were FLA...

And since when did we start talking in the third person?
Barbecued Hockey
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC
Joined: 05.11.2009

Jun 11 @ 9:44 AM ET
Skinner/Faulk, #5 to FLA for #2 and Kulikov.
- Panthers88

Faulk is not going anywhere. We need defense and he is the best dman that Carolina has.
notwalnc
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.29.2006

Jun 11 @ 9:47 AM ET
The absurdity of putting an all offense, no defense winger out for defensive zone faceoffs against the other teams best players continues to boggle the mind.

A shame to see a developing 20 year old be put in a position to fail like that.

The idea of trading him is tricky, because he can make a 3rd line a scoring threat by himself. Throw him out there with any 2 NHL players, and I think he'll still get his chances. And even some subpar NHL'rs with some decent instincts could probably grab a few points off from his offense. But if he's dealt, the Canes will have to build an actual 3rd line.

I could do without seeing a Bowman-Nash-Wallace line ever again.
Barbecued Hockey
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC
Joined: 05.11.2009

Jun 11 @ 9:49 AM ET
I'd love to see Skinner skating next to Duchene in Col. All that speed would be insane. I'm not sure how that'd get done unless you guys want Stastny and a couple of bags of pucks--perty sure we're not giving up our one decent defenseman (EJ), but who knows?
- Dissent

Skinner has a history with Landeskog so there may be some instant chemistry on the ice. I don't think anything gets done without Eric Johnson in return.
Dissent
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Flavor Country
Joined: 03.28.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:15 AM ET
Skinner has a history with Landeskog so there may be some instant chemistry on the ice. I don't think anything gets done without Eric Johnson in return.
- Barbecued Hockey

*Places GM hat securely atop ass-crack*
Stefan Elliot, Joey Hishon, and a 3rd.
Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jun 11 @ 10:30 AM ET
*Places GM hat securely atop ass-crack*
Stefan Elliot, Joey Hishon, and a 3rd.

- Dissent


Canes aren't rebuilding. They are trying to retool and build a blue line for 2013-14. So any big trade that starts with anything except a reasonably proven NHL dman and then ends with ...random prospect ____ and ___ round draft pick is a no-go.
el conquistador
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Canesland
Joined: 02.27.2009

Jun 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
As distasteful as it will be to many, I think Skinner gets moved this summer. The top line is set with EStaal/Semin/Tlusty. The second line is probably going to be pencilled in as Ruutu/JStaal/Nich (likely draft choice) and that line would be a bear of a matchup for opponents. That leaves Skinner on the 3rd with 2 guys named Mo. That in itself isn't bad, but there is still a big hole on defense and JR really doesn't have a lot of money available under the new cap after signing JStaal and Semin to longer term deals. He will also have to deal with Faulk in the near future and he is going to get about $3M more than he is currently getting.

Simply put, JR needs Skinner's money to pay for defense and Skinner is JR's best tradeable asset. I think how the draft shakes out will be a big indicator in this.