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GARTH'S CORNER
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @SabresBuzz
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 24 @ 8:04 AM ET
GARTH: Toews Has Come Undone
Ballam
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 02.07.2010

May 24 @ 8:11 AM ET
Two of those three penalties were completely garbage calls
trolleytracks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Apparently I troll every blog , ON
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 24 @ 8:18 AM ET
Detroit's Henrik Zetterberg is tormenting Toews to the point that he has pooped his cork.


Editing at its finest, or maybe just a case of habit from talking about the Sabres all year.
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

May 24 @ 8:19 AM ET
The changes need to start in the front office, but there are several of their "core" that need to be moved *cough* Bolland, *cough* Seabrook. Q is getting outcoached big time. This team just hasn't adapted to what Detroit is doing to them.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 24 @ 8:23 AM ET
Editing at its finest, or maybe just a case of habit from talking about the Sabres all year.
- trolleytracks

or maybe it is a new term he is trying to coin..
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

May 24 @ 8:32 AM ET
Detroit are interference artists and get away with it. When they move east they will start getting calls.
golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 8:38 AM ET
You forgot....

how badly outcoached Q is getting by Babcock. His defensive gameplan is neutralizing the Hawks speed

the Hawks have no idea how to execute on the power play

they put no traffic in front of the goalie so shots are always seen, from the perimeter and there's no chance at any rebounds

Crawford is a mental midget and while he's been pretty good, Howard has outplayed him

They are getting killed in the faceoff dot
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 24 @ 8:39 AM ET
i always feel bad for fans of other teams when garth writes a troll blog and they think he is serious
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 24 @ 8:41 AM ET
You forgot....

how badly outcoached Q is getting by Babcock. His defensive gameplan is neutralizing the Hawks speed

the Hawks have no idea how to execute on the power play

they put no traffic in front of the goalie so shots are always seen, from the perimeter and there's no chance at any rebounds

Crawford is a mental midget and while he's been pretty good, Howard has outplayed him

They are getting killed in the faceoff dot

- golfbard


Miller for...
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 24 @ 8:42 AM ET
Detroit are interference artists and get away with it. When they move east they will start getting calls.
- sippyd


They drove the Pens nuts doing the same thing in their SCF series. Slight hooks, holds, interference and you're right, they get away with it.
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

May 24 @ 8:42 AM ET
You forgot....

how badly outcoached Q is getting by Babcock. His defensive gameplan is neutralizing the Hawks speed

the Hawks have no idea how to execute on the power play

they put no traffic in front of the goalie so shots are always seen, from the perimeter and there's no chance at any rebounds

Crawford is a mental midget and while he's been pretty good, Howard has outplayed him

They are getting killed in the faceoff dot

- golfbard


prolly need to upgrade in goal. a proven vet. maybe an american with olympic experience...


golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 8:54 AM ET
prolly need to upgrade in goal. a proven vet. maybe an american with olympic experience...



- battelmt



Hmm does his last name start with M and end in iller?

As much as I'd love him, I think two issues come in to play.

1. His salary. Hawks are 2 mil under and with the cap going down I'm not sure they can do such a move.

2. The front office has too many cooks in the kitchen and will focus this offseason on the 24 game point streak to open the season and everything is fine and nothing needs to be dramatically changed. As part of that, they'll point to Crawford bouncing back and say "I told you so" since they said most goalies go through a soph slump. Too many egos to admit giving him a new deal was a mistake. His contract is up next summer so if they think they can trade him then go in another direction then fine. I just don't see it happening.

Also factor in while I think there are issues in goal, the bigger issue is up front. They need less finesse and more grit. Guys who will go to the net, play hard along the walls, etc. Where are the Brouwers, Byfuglien's, Ladd's on this squad? Those guys had skill and grind.
noffsin6
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 08.01.2006

May 24 @ 8:57 AM ET
If this is a "gang style alley fight" what would a series with the Kings be?

It's not like Quennville has much choice but to play Toews against Zetterberg, Wings have had home ice. So unless he has him immediately come to the bench when Z hits the ice he has to keep him out there.

And if he can't handle playing against Z is playing against Datsyuk really going to help him? Or is going to sit on the bench except for the ten or twelve minutes the kid line plays even strength?
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 24 @ 8:57 AM ET
Hmm does his last name start with M and end in iller?

As much as I'd love him, I think two issues come in to play.

1. His salary. Hawks are 2 mil under and with the cap going down I'm not sure they can do such a move.

2. The front office has too many cooks in the kitchen and will focus this offseason on the 24 game point streak to open the season and everything is fine and nothing needs to be dramatically changed. As part of that, they'll point to Crawford bouncing back and say "I told you so" since they said most goalies go through a soph slump. Too many egos to admit giving him a new deal was a mistake. His contract is up next summer so if they think they can trade him then go in another direction then fine. I just don't see it happening.

Also factor in while I think there are issues in goal, the bigger issue is up front. They need less finesse and more grit. Guys who will go to the net, play hard along the walls, etc. Where are the Brouwers, Byfuglien's, Ladd's on this squad? Those guys had skill and grind.

- golfbard


okay since you pushed we can throw in john scott
golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 8:59 AM ET
okay since you pushed we can throw in john scott
- robz228



Aww shucks you got me.
noffsin6
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 08.01.2006

May 24 @ 9:02 AM ET


Also factor in while I think there are issues in goal, the bigger issue is up front. They need less finesse and more grit. Guys who will go to the net, play hard along the walls, etc. Where are the Brouwers, Byfuglien's, Ladd's on this squad? Those guys had skill and grind.

- golfbard


This. The guys they have now mistake cross checks and face washes after the whistle for grit. Grit is going to the net consistently and taking your beating and still making a play. Old Danny Clearly is playing gritty, Bickell and Shaw are not. Nobody ever won a series with cross checks and face washes after the whistle, particularly against the Wings.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 24 @ 9:07 AM ET
This. The guys they have now mistake cross checks and face washes after the whistle for grit. Grit is going to the net consistently and taking your beating and still making a play. Old Danny Clearly is playing gritty, Bickell and Shaw are not. Nobody ever won a series with cross checks and face washes after the whistle, particularly against the Wings.
- noffsin6



This is what I admire most about Detroit. They show toughness not by fighting, or blowing people up (though guys like Kronwall do have that ability), like so many people in this town absolutely fall in love with and seemingly would rather have that a Championship team. They show toughness by playing their game no matter what. I remember last season, shortly after the Miller-Lucic incident, when everybody here was calling for goons that could kick Lucic's face in rather than players that could actually play, Detroit went into Boston and beat them. Boston tried their goon tactics, and Detroit didn't let it phase them. While Boston tried to put them out of the building, Detroit simply put the puck in the back of Boston's net. That's the kind of team I want Buffalo to be, a team that takes hits to make plays.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 24 @ 9:08 AM ET
Detroit's Henrik Zetterberg is tormenting Toews to the point that he has pooped his cork.


That sounds painful.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 24 @ 9:10 AM ET
This is what I admire most about Detroit. They show toughness not by fighting, or blowing people up (though guys like Kronwall do have that ability), like so many people in this town absolutely fall in love with and seemingly would rather have that a Championship team. They show toughness by playing their game no matter what. I remember last season, shortly after the Miller-Lucic incident, when everybody here was calling for goons that could kick Lucic's face in rather than players that could actually play, Detroit went into Boston and beat them. Boston tried their goon tactics, and Detroit didn't let it phase them. While Boston tried to put them out of the building, Detroit simply put the puck in the back of Boston's net. That's the kind of team I want Buffalo to be, a team that takes hits to make plays.
- buffalofan19

enter John Scott..

I have always liked their style of play but I can't stand them.. maybe that is because of an ex that used to be the biggest band wagon hopper and was from just north of detriot.. stupid whore I wish she would poop a cork
acmidd28
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 06.17.2009

May 24 @ 9:14 AM ET
As much as I would like to see change on the horizon we will still get another "We like our group" speech in August after limited movement over the summer. We'll hear about the "core" guys and the young guys coming up and it will all be the same garbage that the fans have heard for the last three years.

Leddy will resign and perhaps Bickell. Stalberg is gonzo.

The only player I see getting moved is Bolland. One because he's been awful in the postseason, two because he's made of glass and three, his contract comes up for renewal in June of 2014. The following summer Kane, Toews and Saad are all up for renewal and the Hawks won't have the $ to keep 36 around.

I will say this. If Bowman (or whomever is really pulling his string) can get on the horn with Lindy Ruff right now and gain his interest....I'm fine with coach Q exiting stage left.
rustbelt82
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.26.2012

May 24 @ 9:15 AM ET
"The Miller for Kane chatter just won't go away."

Garth you are completely (frank)ed in the head if you think that could ever happen.

And the "chatter" you are hearing??????? I cant seem to find it, where is it?
trolleytracks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Apparently I troll every blog , ON
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 24 @ 9:16 AM ET
"The Miller for Kane chatter just won't go away."

Garth you are completely (frank)ed in the head if you think that could ever happen.

And the "chatter" you are hearing??????? I cant seem to find it, where is it?

- rustbelt82


If it did happen the Sabres better hope Kane is never late for practice, because he won't be able to find a cab in Buffalo anymore.
LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

May 24 @ 9:16 AM ET
They drove the Pens nuts doing the same thing in their SCF series. Slight hooks, holds, interference and you're right, they get away with it.
- madmike71

Really? A Pens fan crying about another team getting away with stuff...
Bambino68
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.21.2010

May 24 @ 9:16 AM ET
Change has to come from the front office.
Bowman has done NOTHING... The cup team was created by Tallon.
Fire Q, Fire Bowman, Fire john Mcdonough and his team of mental midgets who've done nothing but create the false hype that its because of them the Hawks sell out.
Time to roll up their sleeves and get dirty...
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
Change has to come from the front office.
Bowman has done NOTHING... The cup team was created by Tallon.
Fire Q, Fire Bowman, Fire john Mcdonough and his team of mental midgets who've done nothing but create the false hype that its because of them the Hawks sell out.
Time to roll up their sleeves and get dirty...

- Bambino68


Bowman for Regier
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