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MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Santa Fe, NM Joined: 10.01.2006
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East. Coast. Bias.
Edit: those stats you have for Toews are wrong. They are:
GP G A P +/-
47 23 25 48 28 |
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willey101
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i Joined: 10.06.2005
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Ladd had a great year but how can he be in this discussion?
e played with heart, had a great year but most valuable player on a team which ended the season as a non playoff team. Can't be MVP.
If you make a case for Ladd then you can make an even bigger case for Sergei Bob.
To me the 3 should have been JT, Alex Ovechkin and maybe sid
They got it right i think with only Sid as a question mark.
COuld definitely make a big case for Getzlaf |
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MrBen
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Only a Jets fan could believe that Andrew Ladd is more deserving than Tavares.
As a Leaf fan, why don't we put Kessel in there too then?
Ridiculous. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Crosby being injured and his team still winning the Conference shows that he doesn't deserve this award. |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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Peter Tessier: MVP finalists- Are they Right?
A look at some numbers behind the Hart finalists and few who didn't make the cut. - Peter.Tessier
East Coast Bias!
Taylor Hall has stats that rival most of those guys and yet most including you don't even list him! |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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Ladd had a great year but how can he be in this discussion?
e played with heart, had a great year but most valuable player on a team which ended the season as a non playoff team. Can't be MVP.
If you make a case for Ladd then you can make an even bigger case for Sergei Bob.
To me the 3 should have been JT, Alex Ovechkin and maybe sid
They got it right i think with only Sid as a question mark.
COuld definitely make a big case for Getzlaf - willey101
Where is this in the criteria?
This award should just be changed officially to league MVP. The definition muddles it every year. Bobrovsky, Taylor Hall, Ladd all should be in the convo by the definition. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Where is this in the criteria?
This award should just be chsnged officislly to league MVP. The definition muddles it every year. Bobrovsky, Taylor Hall, Ladd all should be in the convo by the definition. - Iggysbff
Unwritten rule, get over it. Been like this for a long time. |
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willey101
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i Joined: 10.06.2005
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Where is this in the criteria?
This award should just be chsnged officislly to league MVP. The definition muddles it every year. Bobrovsky, Taylor Hall, Ladd all should be in the convo by the definition. - Iggysbff
The reason to me at least is what's the difference if he's on the team or not. They ddn't make the playoffs so having them there made no difference for success of the team. It's why there should be an argument for Crosby not being on the list.
JT and Ovechkin are obvious choices but either Suter or Getzlaf should have been on that list. Look at what Suter did with a B list D-core |
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TheMike12
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 12.20.2007
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Toewes should have been nominated....but this is Tavares to win...leading the Isles to the playoffs after being so awful for so long and having a great year..he deserves it |
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Pyzik
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Flemington, NJ Joined: 01.18.2008
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Crosby being injured and his team still winning the Conference shows that he doesn't deserve this award. - Lahey
Agree 100% |
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HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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Toews, Getzlaf or Kane over Ovechkin. Aside from that I think it's fine. Tavares probably wins it. If not then it'll be Crosby and it'll be very close. |
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willey101
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i Joined: 10.06.2005
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Where is this in the criteria?
This award should just be chsnged officislly to league MVP. The definition muddles it every year. Bobrovsky, Taylor Hall, Ladd all should be in the convo by the definition. - Iggysbff
Why not St.Louis then you led the league in points?
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TheMike12
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 12.20.2007
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The reason to me at least is what's the difference if he's on the team or not. They ddn't make the playoffs so having them there made no difference for success of the team. It's why there should be an argument for Crosby not being on the list.
JT and Ovechkin are obvious choices but either Suter or Getzlaf should have been on that list. Look at what Suter did with a B list D-core - willey101
Yeah...Suter will get the Norris i think...i honestly didnt realize he was that good until playing all season with a rookie... |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Why not St.Louis then you led the league in points? - willey101
Every year same poop.
NHL just needs to change this to the best player in the NHL award. |
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MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Santa Fe, NM Joined: 10.01.2006
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The reason to me at least is what's the difference if he's on the team or not. They ddn't make the playoffs so having them there made no difference for success of the team. It's why there should be an argument for Crosby not being on the list.
JT and Ovechkin are obvious choices but either Suter or Getzlaf should have been on that list. Look at what Suter did with a B list D-core - willey101
Of all the players whose teams didn't make the playoffs, you could make maybe the strongest case for Bobrovsky. Carried his team.
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Genobuzz
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: I came to leave, PA Joined: 04.26.2010
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Personally... I would have had Ovie, Toews and Tavares this year. (I think Crosby deserves the Linsday but its hard to dispute his "Most Valuable" status considering the pens record without him in the lineup..... and its hard to make the case when he missed as many games as he did)
I don't like goalies for the Hart.... but if columbus made the playoffs.... Bob would have definantly been in the discussion. |
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willey101
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i Joined: 10.06.2005
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Yeah...Suter will get the Norris i think...i honestly didnt realize he was that good until playing all season with a rookie... - TheMike12
agree 100%. I mean I watch Minnesota games and all but didn't realize how good he really was. Norris for Suter, JT with the Hart |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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Why not St.Louis then you led the league in points? - willey101
Id have St Louis there ahead of JT.
There is a reason he is in on the Ted Lindsay. JT is nothing more than a feel good story and NHL PR. |
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willey101
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i Joined: 10.06.2005
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Every year same poop.
NHL just needs to change this to the best player in the NHL award. - Lahey
As they need to have best D man and best offensive Dman award.
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willey101
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i Joined: 10.06.2005
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Id have St Louis there ahead of JT.
There is a reason he is in on the Ted Lindsay. JT is nothing more than a feel good story and NHL PR. - Iggysbff
He personally carried the Islanders to a playoff position. He was alot more valuable to his team then any other player in this league for 2013 |
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nobody can deny crosby's dominance, but the guy missed a quarter of the season, and his team didn't miss a beat. he shouldnt' be nominated, and if he is, then anderson should have been nominated for, and run away with the vezina.
my 3 would have been toews, ovechkin, and tavares |
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East. Coast. Bias.
Edit: those stats you have for Toews are wrong. They are:
GP G A P +/-
47 23 25 48 28 - MartiniMan
Oops they may not be the updated ones- will edit in a bit- thanks! |
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MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Santa Fe, NM Joined: 10.01.2006
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As they need to have best D man and best offensive Dman award. - willey101
Agree 100%. The Norris has turned into the highest scoring defenseman award.
They should create a Bobby Orr award for best offensive defenseman and reserve the Norris for what it should be: best overall defenseman. |
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Only a Jets fan could believe that Andrew Ladd is more deserving than Tavares.
As a Leaf fan, why don't we put Kessel in there too then?
Ridiculous. - MrBen
I'm not saying Ladd is entirely better than Tavares I'm saying he had just as valuable a season if not more than Tavares. |
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