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Good read Clouts |
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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: McJesus, AB Joined: 01.09.2013
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better than the usual blog.
Although I don't think Klefbom-Schultz would work as a pairing. Too much young blood. Wait until Klefbom cracks the lineup before you say he'll be top4 right away |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Richard Cloutier: Oilers @ The Deadline: Preparing for 2013/2014 - Maxbone
I gotta say - Schultz and Petry are great skaters and have good vision, but if they were solid puck-movers, we'd be able to move the puck solidly. We are currently lacking in moving the puck in a BIG way. Whether you want to address the issue (after all, Petry and Schultz are both likely to become more confident, better honed versions of themselves in the coming years) is another debate. In fact, you may be silly to add another puck mover at this juncture. But I don't think anyone should be particularly satisfied with what they bring now.
As far as the "So and So costs too much to be a 5/6 dman" argument, that's only an issue if you don't have cap space to do what you want. No one's saying that if Smid doesn't fit into our improved top 4 a couple years down the road, that he won't fit into somebody else's. The time to worry about someone potentially being overpayed when we have a particularly good Dcore is not now, while we have a bad one. |
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I gotta say - Schultz and Petry are great skaters and have good vision, but if they were solid puck-movers, we'd be able to move the puck solidly. We are currently lacking in moving the puck in a BIG way. Whether you want to address the issue (after all, Petry and Schultz are both likely to become more confident, better honed versions of themselves in the coming years) is another debate. In fact, you may be silly to add another puck mover at this juncture. But I don't think anyone should be particularly satisfied with what they bring now.
As far as the "So and So costs too much to be a 5/6 dman" argument, that's only an issue if you don't have cap space to do what you want. No one's saying that if Smid doesn't fit into our improved top 4 a couple years down the road, that he won't fit into somebody else's. The time to worry about someone potentially being overpayed when we have a particularly good Dcore is not now, while we have a bad one. - Morris
At what point do you stop thinking a couple years down the road and start thinking now
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Sens won't deal their 1st round pick and Bishop for a upcoming UFA depth d-man. Further, the Sens aren't in dire need of a Smid type of d-man. We are doing just fine keeping pucks out of the net despite all our injuries. We need help generating legit offence. I'd like them to go after a Whitney type of guy to be honest. |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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At what point do you stop thinking a couple years down the road and start thinking now - Leafs107
You start thinking now in terms of locking up the talent you currently have, and adding players you know you'll need.
You keep thinking a couple years down the road in terms of trying to upgrade guys like Justin Schultz and Petry. They're good enough because they're young, but they certainly can't do it alone. |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Sens won't deal their 1st round pick and Bishop for a upcoming UFA depth d-man. Further, the Sens aren't in dire need of a Smid type of d-man. We are doing just fine keeping pucks out of the net despite all our injuries. We need help generating legit offence. I'd like them to go after a Whitney type of guy to be honest. - Gord_Wilson_2.0
Remember that Cloutier suggested a conditional 1st based on Smid re-signing. Which means if Smid walks, it's just Bishop. Still a considerable price, but let's not get it twisted.
Whitney would of course be cheaper, but with 7 points in the last 10 playing top 4 minutes, it's actually creeping up! |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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MnGump
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Columbus, MN Joined: 06.21.2012
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Add Klefbom to the Top 4. He's good enough to do it.
- Maxbone
If Klefbom is good enough to be a top 4 d-man, why isn't he already there? |
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When's the "Kadri still sucks" blog coming out Clouts? |
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At what point do you stop thinking a couple years down the road and start thinking now - Leafs107
this is kind of funny coming from a leaf fan................thinking now has really worked out well for your organization..........
hell, who wants rask, hamilton, and seguin when you can have kessel and raycroft |
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Remember that Cloutier suggested a conditional 1st based on Smid re-signing. Which means if Smid walks, it's just Bishop. Still a considerable price, but let's not get it twisted.
Whitney would of course be cheaper, but with 7 points in the last 10 playing top 4 minutes, it's actually creeping up! - Morris
Exactly why I mentioned him. He has been playing well of late. The Sens have held on to this Bishop trade piece for sometime now, I doubt they would trade him away for a rental. Murray just doesn't trade away 1st round picks. His strength is the draft, so keeping his picks is important, unless you are getting a big time player of course. |
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Exactly why I mentioned him. He has been playing well of late. The Sens have held on to this Bishop trade piece for sometime now, I doubt they would trade him away for a rental. Murray just doesn't trade away 1st round picks. His strength is the draft, so keeping his picks is important, unless you are getting a big time player of course. - Gord_Wilson_2.0
like chris campoli |
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this is kind of funny coming from a leaf fan................thinking now has really worked out well for your organization..........
hell, who wants rask, hamilton, and seguin when you can have kessel and raycroft - sensarmy_11
Why let Chara walk when you can have Redden? |
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If Klefbom is good enough to be a top 4 d-man, why isn't he already there? - MnGump
2 reasons that i know of.....
1. he's hurt, or atleast he was, not sure if he still is
2. he had already committed to playing the full season in the SEL |
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Why let Chara walk when you can have Redden? - cdjaakkola
AH, so i see today you've decided to be an oiler and leaf fan again........didn't you say just the other day that you'd converted to ottawa
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Conflict076
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Atheist, QC Joined: 02.19.2009
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When's the "Kadri still sucks" blog coming out Clouts? - LeafsNation91
Kadri is a beast!!! |
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OilCountryEast
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Pine Barrens Joined: 08.25.2007
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AH, so i see today you've decided to be an oiler and leaf fan again........didn't you say just the other day that you'd converted to ottawa
- sensarmy_11
Then I found out about Chara |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Exactly why I mentioned him. He has been playing well of late. The Sens have held on to this Bishop trade piece for sometime now, I doubt they would trade him away for a rental. Murray just doesn't trade away 1st round picks. His strength is the draft, so keeping his picks is important, unless you are getting a big time player of course. - Gord_Wilson_2.0
But that's what I'm saying, if he did in fact end up giving up a 1st round pick, it wouldn't be for a rental!
Bishop for a few months of Smid may not be something you're interested in, however. I wasn't aware his value skyrocketed from the mid 2nd he was acquired for. |
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I think he had a contract in Europe that he had to play out. Someone can correct that if I'm wrong though. - OilCountryEast
that's what i read. i think even before the lockout happened, i'd read that he was commited to teh SEL, no matter what. |
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Kadri is a beast!!! - Conflict076
He's torching top-lines now
Shroeder too. Clouts 'busts' are on fire right now |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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that's what i read. i think even before the lockout happened, i'd read that he was commited to teh SEL, no matter what. - sensarmy_11
If the Oilers wanted him he'd be here. |
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