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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 21 @ 10:51 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: No Need for Rentals
cdjaakkola
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 21 @ 10:53 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: No Need for Rentals
- bmeltzer


Rebuild mode?
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Mar 21 @ 10:54 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: No Need for Rentals
- bmeltzer

don't go home with hope
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Mar 21 @ 10:59 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: No Need for Rentals
- bmeltzer


Bill, your analysis is filled with logic.

However, as previously discussed, the Flyers lack of patience and "win at all costs" mantra from the top of the hierarchical tree may view this team differently.

I don't think they're ready to concede just yet. They're likely waiting for that 4 or 5 game winning streak that could vault the team back into the playoff hunt. They may recall the end of the '09-'10 season as an inconsistent underachiever that just squeaked into the postseason and miraculously made it to the Cup Finals.

They may give it another 2-3 games to see if they can continue winning, before making any moves.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 21 @ 10:59 AM ET
Makes sense...i just hope the flyers arent stupid enough to pull the trigger on something like that. As for jagr, you are right they could get him in the offseason. No need to trade anything for him.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Mar 21 @ 11:02 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: No Need for Rentals
- bmeltzer


Would this team be in a better position right now if they just re-signed Jagr and Carle instead of going after Weber, Suter and Parise?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 21 @ 11:03 AM ET
Sell, Sell, Sell!

Trading assets for rentals would be criminal, and standing pat and not trading pieces for some picks/young players would be dumb.

This is simple, yet I don't have much faith in Holmgren doing the logical thing. I hope I'm wrong.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 21 @ 11:04 AM ET
Sell, Sell, Sell!

Trading assets for rentals would be criminal, and standing pat and not selling pieces for some picks/young players would be dumb.

This is simple, yet I don't have much faith in Holmgren doing the logical thing. I hope I'm wrong.

- PLindbergh31


Briere
Feds
Gagne

SELL SELL SELL
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 21 @ 11:07 AM ET
Would this team be in a better position right now if they just re-signed Jagr and Carle instead of going after Weber, Suter and Parise?
- Jimmygrazz


Carle has been awful in TB this year, and they totally overpaid for him. I bet Yzerman would like a do over with that contract.
jtb3rd
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 02.08.2008

Mar 21 @ 11:07 AM ET
Your lips to Homer's ear, please!!!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 21 @ 11:07 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: No Need for Rentals
- bmeltzer



SELL SELL SELL SELL!!!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 11:08 AM ET
Sell, Sell, Sell!

Trading assets for rentals would be criminal, and standing pat and not trading pieces for some picks/young players would be dumb.

This is simple, yet I don't have much faith in Holmgren doing the logical thing. I hope I'm wrong.

- PLindbergh31



Why not have faith in Holmgren to do the logical thing. Has his track record on the moves he's made, shown that he tends to not do the logical thing?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 21 @ 11:08 AM ET
Thank you for this, Bill. Too many people still think that bringing Jagr back would save the Flyers from Oblivion and salvage the season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 11:08 AM ET
Carle has been awful in TB this year, and they totally overpaid for him. I bet Yzerman would like a do over with that contract.
- PLindbergh31



How many TB games have you watched this Season?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
Dustin Leed ‏@D_LEED 26s
Danny Briere on fourth line right wing at practice today per @davegisaac

sounds like they are forcing danny to waive
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Mar 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
Carle has been awful in TB this year, and they totally overpaid for him. I bet Yzerman would like a do over with that contract.
- PLindbergh31


That was not my question.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 21 @ 11:10 AM ET
Rebuild mode?
- cdjaakkola


Not really, more continuing the rebuild that started when they traded Richards and Carter.

They expected to remain in contention while re-tooling. This year hopefully gives them a shot to pull a Spurs type move and grab a Tim Duncan
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 21 @ 11:10 AM ET
Sarah Baicker ‏@sbaickerCSN 1m
Per @tpanotchCSN, the #Flyers have waived Knuble. That explains Zolnierczyk.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
As much as I admire and respect both Jagr and Morrow, the Flyers should stay out of the trade market for either one of them. In fact, Philadelphia should strongly consider being sellers themselves this season.


This.

The Flyers are 4 - 6 in their last 10 games. Had they flipped that record around or at least not made their losses all seem like carbon copies of their other losses, I could see, maybe, possibly, going after a veteran guy.

Not now.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
So (frank)ing late
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
Knuble waived.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 21 @ 11:12 AM ET
Dustin Leed ‏@D_LEED 26s
Danny Briere on fourth line right wing at practice today per @davegisaac

sounds like they are forcing danny to waive

- Philly1980


All due to respect to DB, the 4th line is commensurate with how he is currently playing 5 on 5.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 21 @ 11:12 AM ET
How many TB games have you watched this Season?
- MJL


Enough to know Carle is a horror show. What has he done to improve their team?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 21 @ 11:13 AM ET
Thank you for this, Bill. Too many people still think that bringing Jagr back would save the Flyers from Oblivion and salvage the season.
- NickTheKid87


It's as if Niewendyk floated this rumor himself to create a market for Jagr.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Mar 21 @ 11:13 AM ET
Not really, more continuing the rebuild that started when they traded Richards and Carter.

They expected to remain in contention while re-tooling. This year hopefully gives them a shot to pull a Spurs type move and grab a Tim Duncan

- Jsaquella


I keep telling people that we are in year 2 of a rebuild already when they say "blow it up". I'm all for moving veterans but they NEED to keep the core together. Last season was more or less a fluke.
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