John Jaeckel: The Missing Pieces

Nice read. Always good work

Oh and First!

I prefer to make comparisons with the 1961 Stanley Cup winning team that NO ONE in hockey in any city would have picked to beat
Montreal or Detroit.

That team had two stars, a great goalie, one above average defensive pair and the rest were hard workers.

No team is trading anyone until March.

...and then if these races are as close as I suspect there may very few teams that want their fans to count them out by March, so to think there will be better alternative support players available is to think the opposite is going to happen and the floodgates of players will be there, with that "perfect fit" at the position that is seen as the Hawk place to put paste.

So the entire assumption is based on an overpayment for a player during that March period when playoff bound teams seem to strongly overpay for Paul Gaustad.
This sounds nothing like the Stan Bowman that has been GM here the past couple.

To see things as time to discuss trades seems a way to fill time, but not part of the now...

John Jaeckel: The Missing Pieces
- John Jaeckel

And - JJ, Wiz, Al - what are your sources saying about Rocky's view of all of this?

Will he make it clear to Stan / McD that he expects them to do what s necessary to advance a deep play-off run?

Or will he settle for remaining $3MM under the cap, as he was last year and is now (according to Capgeek)?

Great read!

It's funny I was watching the Caps/Pens game the other day and wondering if there is any way the Hawks could get Brouwer back. I don't know if Stalberg for Brouwer gets the deal done but I think he would work well on one of the top 2 lines. Decent shot, hits creates space.

I was also thinking if we got him would he go right back in Q's doghouse? Sadly wasn't he there quite a bit the final year he was here. Maybe doghouse is not the right word but under or improperly utilized is better.

Kopy is another guy I wouldn't mind seeing here along with some of the other names you mentioned.

Great read!

It's funny I was watching the Caps/Pens game the other day and wondering if there is any way the Hawks could get Brouwer back. I don't know if Stalberg for Brouwer gets the deal done but I think he would work well on one of the top 2 lines. Decent shot, hits creates space.

I was also thinking if we got him would he go right back in Q's doghouse? Sadly wasn't he there quite a bit the final year he was here. Maybe doghouse is not the right word but under or improperly utilized is better.

Kopy is another guy I wouldn't mind seeing here along with some of the other names you mentioned.
- HawkintheD

Those Brouwer / Kopy deals were launches based on NOT having to pay that inflated salary they both were entitled to getting for services rendered, and reahing that watermark that the league rule/contract LET"S them go out and make.
The same for the knowledge that Ladd was also looking so that deal after years of quiet and effectively doing all the things needed to help teams win.

No beef with the players for doing so.

But to bring them back you better feel warranted there is some qualitative jump in their development, or management looks goofy for not just paying the salary...more so than having to justify keeping a 20 year old on the first line.

Can't see JVR in a Hawk uni at this point. Seems like he's fitting in very nicely in T.O. and is quickly becoming a fan fave.

Jared Boll's a guy i've always liked. Aside from his prolific pugilism, he's a good skater that keeps the heads of puck retrieving d-men on a swivel. Still early in the season and Columbus could be a team on the rise, but should they pull the chute and fall to earth, Boll's a guy that could help us. Doesn't hurt that he's an Illinois lad either.

Those Brouwer / Kopy deals were launches based on NOT having to pay that inflated salary they both were entitled to getting for services rendered, and reahing that watermark that the league rule/contract LET"S them go out and make.
The same for the knowledge that Ladd was also looking so that deal after years of quiet and effectively doing all the things needed to help teams win.

No beef with the players for doing so.

But to bring them back you better feel warranted there is some qualitative jump in their development, or management looks goofy for not just paying the salary...more so than having to justify keeping a 20 year old on the first line.
- wiz1901

True, but great GMs admit their mistakes and typically move swiftly to correct them once they do. Not sure choosing not to pay Tomas Kopecky $3 million a year is a "mistake."

But when things like backward optics (ie, avoiding second guessing, which Bowman seems adept at) get in the way of a smart move that could put your team over the top, you are destined to be talking about your prospects and cap space and how you got 101 points in the regular season, while others (like LA last year) are playing for the big hardware.

Happens over and over again.

Also agree on the timing, but the blog also makes clear that it is early. Teams and names could change. And those names right now, are just for instances.

Can't see JVR in a Hawk uni at this point. Seems like he's fitting in very nicely in T.O. and is quickly becoming a fan fave.

Jared Boll's a guy i've always liked. Aside from his prolific pugilism, he's a good skater that keeps the heads of puck retrieving d-men on a swivel. Still early in the season and Columbus could be a team on the rise, but should they pull the chute and fall to earth, Boll's a guy that could help us. Doesn't hurt that he's an Illinois lad either.
- philco28

Not sure he can play top 9, that's the problem. He's a 4th liner on a bad team.

To me McNeil and clemdeming seem the logical choice for use in trading for a player since both have players ahead of them,
What would those two prospects get you? Kopecky yes, brouer ?

Not sure he can play top 9, that's the problem. He's a 4th liner on a bad team.
- John Jaeckel

Why not as a 4th line energy guy ?

Why not as a 4th line energy guy ?
- philco28

Sure, no problem with that. But not sure that's a huge need either.

So this is turning out to be a debacle of a Monday. Saw the Wally Pipp comment in the last thread... Hilarious... Awesome break in the storm.

Anyways. Hip to some JVR action. Would really really really prefer a center. Tyler Bozak is winning 58% of his draws.... No idea what kind of player he is though...

Brouwer would be OK. TomoKop would not. That dude makes way to much scratch for being mediocre.

Biggest glaring issue right now is faceoffs. The jam or net presence is tough... Though I would argue so few teams have a reliable solution there anyways that that will be a tough upgrade... Hell I'm happy that guys are actually trying to go there this year... But not being able to keep the puck or have anyone win a draw but Toews is massive issue. Though Shaw hasn't been awful.

I watch a ton of hockey and have been racking my brain about what is needed, what may be available and what it may cost. No easy task.

Have a hard time thinking Sharp goes anywhere given NTC/NMC.

Ducks are an early dark horse for me, thus making their whole UFA dilemma much more of a challenge. Say they started in the hole, you could probably have swung a deal for one of the big boys.

Any word on Carcillo? How is he progressing? With the condensed schedule, it feels like he has already been out a month...in dog weeks.

Not sure he can play top 9, that's the problem. He's a 4th liner on a bad team.
- John Jaeckel

How about a Don Cherry "Winning Faceoffs" video. Bolland appears to me that he smokes weed all the time, OK unfair accusation, but my point is he is so methodical and plodding. Reflexes help in winning faceoffs. His internal reflexive delay button is short circuited.

I watch a ton of hockey and have been racking my brain about what is needed, what may be available and what it may cost. No easy task.

Have a hard time thinking Sharp goes anywhere given NTC/NMC.

Ducks are an early dark horse for me, thus making their whole UFA dilemma much more of a challenge. Say they started in the hole, you could probably have swung a deal for one of the big boys.

Any word on Carcillo? How is he progressing? With the condensed schedule, it feels like he has already been out a month...in dog weeks.
- TrueGrit

No idea on Carcillo. No one will know squat until he is seen in a practice jersey, then I think you can say a week or two.

Team needs some muscle and willingness around the net upfront. Viktor, Bickell, Saad, none seem to be that guy. An All-Terrain forward.

Let me be clear, Saad is winning me over in terms of his NHL worth right now. But I still see a guy who right now really plays a finesse game in a PF body. When he's 25, he could be an absolute monster around the cage, and I applaud his willingness at times, but he is playing against men. This is not about his potnetial or anyone's. it's about what this team needs right now.

I also applaud the hawks for their recent past interest—as I've been told— in a guy like Clarkson. He is exactly the kind of guy I am talking about as a need.

How dare you suggest that a team which has not lost a game in regulation has needs???? I agree, there are some glaring holes on this team! They may not be glaring during the regular season, but when playoff time comes around oh boy. I don't have trust in Stan, so I see this team as it is. Stan did a perfect job by his bosses in setting this team up Cap wise during the last two years for this lockout. I just don't think he has that gambler spirit in him, he makes the safe plays............

I might get crucified, but I would send Nick Leddy for Jim Slater

Brouwer and Kopecky strike me as "been there, done that" players. Although that type of player might be something the Hawks can acquire.

I think you have to look at one of Stalberg, Bickell, and Leddy, as all three will be in line for big pay raises for next year. And with the cap going down, the Hawks won't be able to afford all three. So trading one for a rental might make some sense.

Bickell, McNeill and a 3rd for Stephen Weiss?

Yea, too bad Bowman doesn't like picking up ex-Hawk players. He's got his hands full breast feeding Saad as is. What's a single father to do?

Hello all. Would like to see the Hawks add a Newfoundlander to the team. Purcell in Tampa would be a good addition to our top 6 and for a 4th line centerman , i would talk to Buffalo and ask about Luke Adam.

Great read JJ!

On JVR, Toronto basically stole him from philly and I cant see the GM in Toronto saying, "No way! We gave up Luke Schenn for him." Schenn is hard to watch and a package of Stalberg and Mcneil may get that done.

Brouwer and Kopecky strike me as "been there, done that" players. Although that type of player might be something the Hawks can acquire.

I think you have to look at one of Stalberg, Bickell, and Leddy, as all three will be in line for big pay raises for next year. And with the cap going down, the Hawks won't be able to afford all three. So trading one for a rental might make some sense.

Bickell, McNeill and a 3rd for Stephen Weiss?
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Where can I sign for Stan?

Hello all. Would like to see the Hawks add a Newfoundlander to the team. Purcell in Tampa would be a good addition to our top 6 and for a 4th line centerman , i would talk to Buffalo and ask about Luke Adam.
- Mose_Ambrose

Hawks like Teddy very much, have inquired about him in hte past. Problem is, so does TB and they look strong this year. Again, a value for value deal might get him. But you would give up a good piece.

Yea, too bad Bowman doesn't like picking up ex-Hawk players. He's got his hands full breast feeding Saad as is. What's a single father to do?
- teh_HAWKZ