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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 27 @ 5:07 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Flyers in Europe, Phantoms Update
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 27 @ 7:45 AM ET
I've been a pretty big supporter of Bryzgalov, but I think if there's any kind of cap amnesty buyouts, he's on the short list.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Nov 27 @ 8:09 AM ET
I've been a pretty big supporter of Bryzgalov, but I think if there's any kind of cap amnesty buyouts, he's on the short list.
- Jsaquella



I think your right
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Nov 27 @ 8:11 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Flyers in Europe, Phantoms Update
- bmeltzer




Bill any thoughts on this Mediation??
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 27 @ 8:32 AM ET
I've been a pretty big supporter of Bryzgalov, but I think if there's any kind of cap amnesty buyouts, he's on the short list.
- Jsaquella

Based off what? One bad year? I agree that if there were any kind of buyouts allowed the Flyers wouldn't have many guys they need to choose from, Pronger far and away being number one, but just chucking out Bryz? Doesn't make a ton of sense. If we want a Lundqvist or a Quick type goalie then Lavi needs to change his whole defensive scheme, not just the goalie...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 27 @ 8:37 AM ET
Based off what? One bad year? I agree that if there were any kind of buyouts allowed the Flyers wouldn't have many guys they need to choose from, Pronger far and away being number one, but just chucking out Bryz? Doesn't make a ton of sense. If we want a Lundqvist or a Quick type goalie then Lavi needs to change his whole defensive scheme, not just the goalie...
- hereticpride



Not to mention that who is the starter then ? Leighton or Scott Monroe?
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Nov 27 @ 8:42 AM ET
nice read Bill

Bryz on the short list or short bus?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 27 @ 8:51 AM ET
Bill any thoughts on this Mediation??
- Flyers_1488


Can't hurt, may help.

FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Nov 27 @ 9:12 AM ET
Based off what? One bad year? I agree that if there were any kind of buyouts allowed the Flyers wouldn't have many guys they need to choose from, Pronger far and away being number one, but just chucking out Bryz? Doesn't make a ton of sense. If we want a Lundqvist or a Quick type goalie then Lavi needs to change his whole defensive scheme, not just the goalie...
- hereticpride


I wish that during this lockout period Bryz was on a KHL (or other european) team that was giving him more consistent work so that he could get into a rhythm. From Bills reports, it is not clear that he has gotten enough playing time to build his confidence and establish a groove.
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Nov 27 @ 9:35 AM ET
Based off what? One bad year? I agree that if there were any kind of buyouts allowed the Flyers wouldn't have many guys they need to choose from, Pronger far and away being number one, but just chucking out Bryz? Doesn't make a ton of sense. If we want a Lundqvist or a Quick type goalie then Lavi needs to change his whole defensive scheme, not just the goalie...
- hereticpride



I wouldn't even say he had a bad year. He started strong and he finished strong, he was just inconsistent through the middle portion of the regular season. You're right that better team defense will make Bryz look better, and the additions of Grossmann and Luke Schenn will help make that happen.
Stinkfitz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 08.14.2012

Nov 27 @ 10:16 AM ET
Based off what? One bad year? I agree that if there were any kind of buyouts allowed the Flyers wouldn't have many guys they need to choose from, Pronger far and away being number one, but just chucking out Bryz? Doesn't make a ton of sense. If we want a Lundqvist or a Quick type goalie then Lavi needs to change his whole defensive scheme, not just the goalie...
- hereticpride



Bryz would definately have to be looked at because we overpaid him. It is simply not a good contract to be carrying.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 27 @ 10:22 AM ET
Tretiak said that people "expect miracles" from goaltenders and that miracles sometimes happen but a goalie needs to be playing regularly to reach the pinnacle of their games and live up to those sorts of lofty expectations.
- Bill Meltzer


I agree. Imho Bryz is the kind of goalie who needs a heavy workload to be at his best. 65-70 games per season is probably right for him.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 27 @ 10:23 AM ET
Not to mention that who is the starter then ? Leighton or Scott Monroe?
- MJL


No, just go out and sign or trade for a top-shelf goalie. They are easy to acquire.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 27 @ 10:24 AM ET
Based off what? One bad year? I agree that if there were any kind of buyouts allowed the Flyers wouldn't have many guys they need to choose from, Pronger far and away being number one, but just chucking out Bryz? Doesn't make a ton of sense. If we want a Lundqvist or a Quick type goalie then Lavi needs to change his whole defensive scheme, not just the goalie...
- hereticpride

I agree with this but I think Jsaq is looking at the hefty contract more than the player. It is a long time to be strapped down to anyone let alone someone who makes chernobyl look stable.

On the flip side I think the cooky bastach at least gives you some entertainment value. Also If not for his stinking chip fracture in his foot he I firmly believe he would have been one of the more notable goalies in last year's playoffs. He had I believe two of the Nhl network's top three playoff saves. Also I think we should have learned last year Bryzgalov is not anywhere near his best when he's given spot duty as the retired Russian goalie pointed out.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 27 @ 10:24 AM ET
Bryz would definately have to be looked at because we overpaid him. It is simply not a good contract to be carrying.
- Stinkfitz

I think with this CBA tho his contract is gonna look better maybe I'm wrong.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 27 @ 10:52 AM ET
I've been a pretty big supporter of Bryzgalov, but I think if there's any kind of cap amnesty buyouts, he's on the short list.
- Jsaquella

I wouldn't have him at the top of my list, but he'd be on it. You have to have a plan B immediately lined up if you go that route.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
well i;m out for the day. Wrote a little song hope you guys enjoy it if not well just do what you do!

All I want for Christmas is my NHL back, my nhl back see my NHL back!

Gee if I could have my NHL back then I could watch Luke schenn make Crosby Cry!

It seems so long since I heard "Giroux goes high and wide to score for a case of tasty cakes!" Gosh oh gee how happy I'd be to whistle the "lets go" thing!

All I want for Christmas is my NHL back, my NHL back see my NHL back!

Gee if I could only have my NHL back then I could forget about not getting weber or parise! For now ill have to settle for Sunday afternoon and Monday night! Oh please lindbergh's ghost won't you make things right!
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Nov 27 @ 11:39 AM ET
well i;m out for the day. Wrote a little song hope you guys enjoy it if not well just do what you do!

All I want for Christmas is my NHL back, my nhl back see my NHL back!

Gee if I could have my NHL back then I could watch Luke schenn make Crosby Cry!

It seems so long since I heard "Giroux goes high and wide to score for a case of tasty cakes!" Gosh oh gee how happy I'd be to whistle the "lets go" thing!

All I want for Christmas is my NHL back, my NHL back see my NHL back!

Gee if I could only have my NHL back then I could forget about not getting weber or parise! For now ill have to settle for Sunday afternoon and Monday night! Oh please lindbergh's ghost won't you make things right!

- JoeRussomanno




Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Nov 27 @ 12:08 PM ET
For the moment, it would appear the Bryz is being overpaid. But 5.6m/ season isnt HORRIBLE if he can be a little more consistant. If there's a way for Pronger's hit to come off the cap then it wont be as big of a deal..
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 27 @ 12:11 PM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/...blockID=806319&feedID=704

Summer of 2012
"Summer of What Ifs"
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Nov 27 @ 12:19 PM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/flyers-talk/Actually-Doan-was-very-close-to-becoming?blockID=806319&feedID=704

Summer of 2012
"Summer of What Ifs"

- KINGKENZO

phew
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 27 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think with this CBA tho his contract is gonna look better maybe I'm wrong.
- JoeRussomanno



Teams like the Flyers are going to feel the crunch from a new CBA if it ever gets signed. If he plays as he is capable of, then it'll be worth it. But if he doesn't, then the criticism will be worse once that crunch is felt.
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Nov 27 @ 12:35 PM ET
It's nice to see the Phantoms get back on track.

We're really counting on one of Bourdon or Gustafsson to turn into a legit NHLer. My money is on Gus.

It's also nice to see that Couturier is ready to generate offense when given the opportunity. And Schenn is 3rd in league scoring ! First if you take out all the Edmonton kids.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 27 @ 12:59 PM ET
wow do the eagles suck how is andy reid still around
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
I agree. Imho Bryz is the kind of goalie who needs a heavy workload to be at his best. 65-70 games per season is probably right for him.
- Scoob

Then he'll get burned out in the playoffs and choke
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