Richard Cloutier: Parallels Between the New Rink and the CBA Situation

1. Edmonton deserves a new stadium

2. Daryl Katz's white knight image is gone and he is a poop-head

3. The Oilers have to many players with legal problems

4. The Oilers are the best young team in the NHL

5. The other 29 NHL owners will not allow Edmonton to move and neither will Bettman

5. The Oilers will make the playoffs this year if they get a goalie.

1. Edmonton deserves a new stadium

2. Daryl Katz's white knight image is gone and he is a poop-head

3. The Oilers have to many players with legal problems

4. The Oilers are the best young team in the NHL

5. The other 29 NHL owners will not allow Edmonton to move and neither will Bettman

5. The Oilers will make the playoffs this year if they get a goalie.
- tuna99

1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Not important
4. Not yet
5. Agreed
6. Longshot. Dubnyk aint the problem

clouts,,,what if edmonton moves to say quebec city? they don't want to move to a place where they may not make money but THEY WILL make money in quebec.

btw long time reader first time poster...other then engles blogs i only read yours...and most of the guys in the enlges thread suck so i hope Im a little more welcome here lol.

clouts,,,what if edmonton moves to say quebec city? they don't want to move to a place where they may not make money but THEY WILL make money in quebec.

btw long time reader first time poster...other then engles blogs i only read yours...and most of the guys in the enlges thread suck so i hope Im a little more welcome here lol.
- habsrock71

Guys....please adopt this kid, he is awesome!

Guys....please adopt this kid, he is awesome!
- Symba007

We'll sign him to a two way contract. Hes gotta prove himself in the farm first

Guys....please adopt this kid, he is awesome!
- Symba007

lol I've avoid the engles thread like the palgue...i have no interest in being ridiculed for things from howard.

We'll sign him to a two way contract. Hes gotta prove himself in the farm first
- hugefemale dog77

Cloutier's basement?

Cloutier's basement?
- Symba007

I never said it was easy....


Ugh.

Richard Cloutier: Parallels Between the New Rink and the CBA Situation
- Maxbone

The economy is "hot" are you high?

So what do you (frank)ers think of Kostitsyn saying he doesn't like North America? If he doesn't like it, maybe he shouldn't continue to sign NHL contracts. These Russians are bringing my piss to a boil. The NHL should start getting tough on these (frank)ers.

So what do you (frank)ers think of Kostitsyn saying he doesn't like North America? If he doesn't like it, maybe he shouldn't continue to sign NHL contracts. These Russians are bringing my piss to a boil. The NHL should start getting tough on these (frank)ers.
- laughs2907

Kostitsyn is Belorussian. That's like referring to a Ukrainian or a Kazakh as Russian.

The economy is "hot" are you high?
- Reveen

At this exact moment? No.

Hate to break it to everyone but to own a sports team, you have to be rich.

More often than not, the rich guys get alot poorer after they own a sports team.

The guy came forward to buy the team when everyone was begging for a owner who would spend money to get great guys.

He paid 200 million for the team and he deserves to make that back and a profit.

So far he has taken all the risk, if the people of Edmonton don't see that, then maybe they need a vacation from hockey like Winnipeg had.

Kostitsyn is Belorussian. That's like referring to a Ukrainian or a Kazakh as Russian.
- Jack-artist

Bordered by Russia... Close enough. Maybe I should have said European... (frank), you're making me sound like Don Cherry here. Point being he's b1tching about North America, yet he's signing contracts to play here... It's (frank)ed up... Stay in the KHL, mutha (frank)ers.

Hate to break it to everyone but to own a sports team, you have to be rich.

More often than not, the rich guys get alot poorer after they own a sports team.

The guy came forward to buy the team when everyone was begging for a owner who would spend money to get great guys.

He paid 200 million for the team and he deserves to make that back and a profit.

So far he has taken all the risk, if the people of Edmonton don't see that, then maybe they need a vacation from hockey like Winnipeg had.
- oilcats

That's fair, but he's trying to rape the city. He does not deserve what he's asking for. It's far too much. He wants revenues from EVERYTHING for 11 months out of the year, he wants naming rights (valued at 3 million a year), he wants $20 million in advertising (over 10 years), he wants casino rights, and he wants an extra $6 million a year to pay for operating costs... Give me a break.

Kostitsyn is Belorussian. That's like referring to a Ukrainian or a Kazakh as Russian.
- Jack-artist

Yeah....because their all essentially Russian.

Jaromir Jagr still believes the NHL would be back in action this year. Not later than by December, to be sure.
That’s what he told the Czech idnes.cz website in an interview published Monday.
“I believe the owners want to play as many games as possible. It doesn’t mean much that we’ve lost a month. You get eight to nine games in during that month, and that doesn’t ruin the entire season. You can always make adjustments. You can have the playoffs games on every second day. It (the playoffs) is all over the place now because of television.”
Jagr is currently off the playing roster at his native Kladno because of an injury, but he’s still the owner of the club. His ownership status must have influenced his answer to the site’s question about what he thinks of Alexander Ovechkin’s round condemnation of the league. Ovechkin said the owners were trying to “cheat” the players out of paying their existing contracts.
“Cheating. I don’t know what he meant by the word. When someone owns something and wants to make as much as possible, you can’t call that cheating. You’d have to call a half of the world cheaters. It’s simply business. True, they need us to do the business, but still, they own it. And another thing: hockey is not the main thing for most of the owners. They make their money elsewhere. Unlike us, hockey players. They set the rules, no doubt about that.”
So, the Czech reporters inquired, what’s going to change between now and December?
“Everybody knows,” said Jagr, “that the first month (of the season) is nothing like a rose garden for the NHL. Only a few make some money, they face huge competition in American football and baseball. The baseball competition is getting into its playoffs, so, one competitor is gone, and the interest will switch to something else. And that something else is hockey. Simply, the first two months (of the season) aren’t as interesting for the owners as the rest. It doesn’t bother anybody that they’re going to lose the first month and a half.”
The topic of NHL commissioner Gary Bettman was on the agenda, too. What do you think, idnes.cz asked, is Bettman a great negotiator or someone who doesn’t give a hoot about hockey?
“First of all, I don’t believe he would be doing anything without hearing from the owners first. That he’d do something on his own during negotiations, no. He’s not that kind of a player. These are billionaires, there are 30 of them, so, he’s got his instructions. It does not depend on him only, definitely not.”
Edmonton Journal

Oh my god... A player who isn't completely full of sh1t.

Oh my god... A player who isn't completely full of sh1t.
- laughs2907

A player who is also an owner...he sees and understands both sides.

A player who is also an owner...he sees and understands both sides.
- OilHorse

Rumors are flying all over the place that players are taking the situation into their own hands, and will force Donald Fehr to try to negotiate a new deal before the end of Thursday...rumored to be the last day possible to fit a full 82 game schedule in this season. As for the Katz Group/CoE situation, no news is bad news. Hopefully it will be announced very soon that the NHL has been approached to mediate the situation.

Yet Dreger comes out today and says the players aren't going to be bullied and will take a stand against Bettman and the owners.

Rumors are flying all over the place that players are taking the situation into their own hands, and will force Donald Fehr to try to negotiate a new deal before the end of Thursday...rumored to be the last day possible to fit a full 82 game schedule in this season. As for the Katz Group/CoE situation, no news is bad news. Hopefully it will be announced very soon that the NHL has been approached to mediate the situation.

Yet Dreger comes out today and says the players aren't going to be bullied and will take a stand against Bettman and the owners.
- Lahey

Bullied... It's not "bullied", Dreger... It's basic economics.

Bullied... It's not "bullied", Dreger... It's basic economics.
- laughs2907

They are pissed off because option 3 offered 50-50, but the owners didn't look at it. Dreger was saying they should've just sat down by themselves for an owner pretty much just to amuse the players.

What still pisses me off is they are so close, but really don't care. League refuses to change from their system, players somehow want 50-50 with no rollback.

Yak scores game winner today