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Bill Meltzer
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Aug 23 @ 7:42 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Kladno Rumor Strains Credibility
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 23 @ 8:01 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Kladno Rumor Strains Credibility
- bmeltzer


I'd like to see as many guys as possible playing during any stoppage, be it on Jagr's team or elsewhere. The veterans on the Flyers during the last stoppage were hurt by their inactivity.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Aug 23 @ 8:05 AM ET
Haven't been around the Buzz as much as usual so it's probably been discussed, but what are the requirements to play in the AHL? Waiver exemption or something like that?
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Aug 23 @ 8:11 AM ET
I'd like to see as many guys as possible playing during any stoppage, be it on Jagr's team or elsewhere. The veterans on the Flyers during the last stoppage were hurt by their inactivity.
- Jsaquella


I think there will be at least 5-6 veterans who play overseas. I figure Bryzgalov will play in the KHL, Giroux will go somewhere (Switzerland perhaps), Voracek to Kladno in the Czech Extraliga, Timonen (health dependent) to KalPa, Grossmann to a team in Sweden (AIK, perhaps), Hartnell to either KalPa or Kladno. There could be others.

Among the younger players, Couturier, B. Schenn, Rinaldo, Wellwood and Gustafsson are all eligible to be assigned to the Phantoms.

Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Aug 23 @ 8:12 AM ET
Haven't been around the Buzz as much as usual so it's probably been discussed, but what are the requirements to play in the AHL? Waiver exemption or something like that?
- eayost


There are also other considerations, such as the AHL's "veteran" rule, but yes, the waiver-exempt players on entry-level contracts are all eligible for AHL play.

phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 23 @ 8:14 AM ET
it will be interesting...

the end of August is fast approaching.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Aug 23 @ 8:17 AM ET
There are also other considerations, such as the AHL's "veteran" rule, but yes, the waiver-exempt players on entry-level contracts are all eligible for AHL play.
- bmeltzer


What does the veteran rule entail? Does it allow any other Flyer players eligible for AHL play if they want?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 23 @ 8:19 AM ET
I think there will be at least 5-6 veterans who play overseas. I figure Bryzgalov will play in the KHL, Giroux will go somewhere (Switzerland perhaps), Voracek to Kladno in the Czech Extraliga, Timonen (health dependent) to KalPa, Grossmann to a team in Sweden (AIK, perhaps), Hartnell to either KalPa or Kladno. There could be others.

Among the younger players, Couturier, B. Schenn, Rinaldo, Wellwood and Gustafsson are all eligible to be assigned to the Phantoms.

- bmeltzer


Anything interesting in the Phantoms signing Scott Munroe?
Bill Meltzer
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Aug 23 @ 8:21 AM ET
What does the veteran rule entail? Does it allow any other Flyer players eligible for AHL play if they want?
- eayost


Per AHL rules: "Of the 18 skaters (not counting two goaltenders) that teams may dress for a regular-season game, at least 13 must be qualified as development players. Of those 13, 12 must have played in 260 or fewer professional games (including AHL, NHL, IHL and European elite leagues), and one must have played in 320 or fewer professional games. All calculations for development status are based on regular-season totals as of the start of the season."
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Aug 23 @ 8:24 AM ET
Anything interesting in the Phantoms signing Scott Munroe?
- Jsaquella


My gut reaction when I saw it:

1) It's some insurance in case Niko Hovinen's hip bothers him
2) It gives the team a veteran, with Heeter possibly starting the season the ECHL


jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 23 @ 8:26 AM ET
Anything interesting in the Phantoms signing Scott Munroe?
- Jsaquella

Right now the Phantoms have Hoivenenenenen and ?

Munroe did a pretty good job last time around..
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 23 @ 8:29 AM ET
Right now the Phantoms have Hoivenenenenen and ?

Munroe did a pretty good job last time around..

- jak521


I thought Cal Heeter was slated to play with Hovinen.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 23 @ 8:31 AM ET
My gut reaction when I saw it:

1) It's some insurance in case Niko Hovinen's hip bothers him
2) It gives the team a veteran, with Heeter possibly starting the season the ECHL

- bmeltzer


I'd rather see the kids get the minutes. Munroe is a more than capable AHL goalie, but I want to see Hovinen & Heeter get the work
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 23 @ 8:32 AM ET
My gut reaction when I saw it:

1) It's some insurance in case Niko Hovinen's hip bothers him
2) It gives the team a veteran, with Heeter possibly starting the season the ECHL

- bmeltzer

Homer cant have enough quality goaltending
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Aug 23 @ 8:56 AM ET
I'd rather see the kids get the minutes. Munroe is a more than capable AHL goalie, but I want to see Hovinen & Heeter get the work
- Jsaquella


Same here.. I'd like to see some of these young guys getting groomed, and having the chance to prove themselves.

Young hockey goalies are like a box of chocolates - Never know what you're gonna get until you open them up and give them a try...
Ondrej F
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Prague
Joined: 02.17.2010

Aug 23 @ 8:56 AM ET
I'm quite sure it was some misunderstood joke... (from the reporter)

There're also some insurance problems, playing in the Czech league..
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Aug 23 @ 9:00 AM ET
I'm quite sure it was some misunderstood joke... (from the reporter)

There're also some insurance problems, playing in the Czech league..

- Ondrej F


The insurance issue can be worked out, but would be a time-consuming process. Even so, as I wrote in the blog, I am really not expecting Giroux to play for Kladno during a lockout and the odds are also against Hartnell going there.
Ondrej F
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Prague
Joined: 02.17.2010

Aug 23 @ 9:16 AM ET
The insurance issue can be worked out, but would be a time-consuming process. Even so, as I wrote in the blog, I am really not expecting Giroux to play for Kladno during a lockout and the odds are also against Hartnell going there.
- bmeltzer

First of all, it would be a money-consuming process
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 23 @ 9:23 AM ET
As a player representative person wouldn't Hartnell want to be in North America during CBA negotiations?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 23 @ 9:24 AM ET
As a player representative person wouldn't Hartnell want to be in North America for CBA negotiations?
- BulliesPhan87

Pssh.. he kissed his representative status goodbye the minute he went all Benedict Arnold on them signing that contract.
Bill Meltzer
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Aug 23 @ 9:27 AM ET
As a player representative person wouldn't Hartnell want to be in North America during CBA negotiations?
- BulliesPhan87


He'd stay here through Sept 15 for sure and probably into early/mid October, but beyond that, he and other NHL players (including team union reps) would look for places to actually play hockey until the lockout ends.



flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Aug 23 @ 9:35 AM ET
There are also other considerations, such as the AHL's "veteran" rule, but yes, the waiver-exempt players on entry-level contracts are all eligible for AHL play.
- bmeltzer

Too bad the flyers couldn't force the phantoms to play in Philly until the lockout ends. Its not like Glenns Falls was anything other then a stopgap unitl the team moves back to Allentown anyways.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 23 @ 9:55 AM ET
Too bad the flyers couldn't force the phantoms to play in Philly until the lockout ends. Its not like Glenns Falls was anything other then a stopgap unitl the team moves back to Allentown anyways.
- flyers4487

flashbacking to a Billy Joel song
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Aug 23 @ 10:15 AM ET
Elitserien has ruled that teams cannot sign NHL players to short-term contracts in the event of a lockout. If they sign, players must stay the whole season in accordance with the league's current rules.

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 23 @ 10:18 AM ET
Elitserien has ruled that teams cannot sign NHL players to short-term contracts in the event of a lockout. If they sign, players must stay the whole season in accordance with the league's current rules.
- bmeltzer

wow... so much for guys like Grossmann going over for a spell during the lockout.
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