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GARTH'S CORNER
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @SabresBuzz
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 8 @ 9:53 AM ET
GARTH: Skinner An Ennis Comparable?
J03Y
Buffalo Sabres
Location: we finally got a center that i, NY
Joined: 11.19.2009

Aug 8 @ 9:54 AM ET
no
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Aug 8 @ 9:55 AM ET
lol....I didn't even read the blog but the title is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 8 @ 9:56 AM ET
Kane
one man
one cup
edwinsagain
Buffalo Sabres
Location: concord, NC
Joined: 09.11.2006

Aug 8 @ 9:58 AM ET
Unfortunately, this is exactly who is agent is going to compare him with. This just upped his price into the $4 million+ range. Should've locked him up earlier for cheaper.
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 8 @ 9:59 AM ET
They both shoot left.. so yes.. they are comparable. Everything else.. not so much.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 8 @ 10:00 AM ET
no
- J03Y

IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Aug 8 @ 10:01 AM ET
Unfortunately, this is exactly who is agent is going to compare him with. This just upped his price into the $4 million+ range. Should've locked him up earlier for cheaper.
- edwinsagain

Tennis - 0.66 ppg career
Skinner - 0.73 ppg career

i agree it will be used as a comparison.
murdoch
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phil a del phia, PA
Joined: 09.18.2006

Aug 8 @ 10:01 AM ET
not even comparable.
rustbelt82
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.26.2012

Aug 8 @ 10:02 AM ET
Is Ennis worth 5.7 a year cap hit????? FUUUCCCKKKK NOOOOOOOO.

if this is what he wants trade his ass to the Ducks for Ryan NOW
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Aug 8 @ 10:02 AM ET
They both shoot left.. so yes.. they are comparable. Everything else.. not so much.
- burner087

that doesn't matter.. their point totals are not all that different and that is all the agent will look at. if you want to sign him for under 4 mil the skinner contract does NOT help your cause.
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 8 @ 10:03 AM ET
Think Darcy will just do a 2 year deal?
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Aug 8 @ 10:05 AM ET
not even comparable.
- murdoch

they are not comparable in terms of player but at the end of the day Ennis' agent will look at the 5.7 per for Skinner and point to it and say if he gets that for 0.73 ppg Ennis should at least get around 5.3.. the simple math works out to be that way.
jsam7
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.27.2010

Aug 8 @ 10:05 AM ET
Wow, please go back to your love affair with Doan.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Aug 8 @ 10:05 AM ET
Unfortunately, this is exactly who is agent is going to compare him with. This just upped his price into the $4 million+ range. Should've locked him up earlier for cheaper.
- edwinsagain



You can't lock him up if his agent was making them wait. IN order to maximize Ennis's contract, you need to wait for others to sign

His agent knows that from a productivity standpoint Skinner and Ennis are comparable. If Skiner gets 5.75, look for Ennis to get 4.5-5 over 5-6 years.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 8 @ 10:06 AM ET
Garth - you have already written about 6 or 7 players who are supposedly going to affect Ennis' deal.

No one cares. There should only be one blog about Ennis and that should be on the day he is either signed or traded.

The Sabres are one of the most boring teams in the NHL, yet they get about 14 blogs per week dedicated to absolutely nothing.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Aug 8 @ 10:07 AM ET
Is Ennis worth 5.7 a year cap hit????? FUUUCCCKKKK NOOOOOOOO.

if this is what he wants trade his ass to the Ducks for Ryan NOW

- rustbelt82



Overreact much?
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 8 @ 10:07 AM ET
Ahhh?....................
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Aug 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
that doesn't matter.. their point totals are not all that different and that is all the agent will look at. if you want to sign him for under 4 mil the skinner contract does NOT help your cause.
- IndianaSabresFan


fair enough but there are counter-arguments. Skinner is THREE years younger and has a 30-goal and a 20-goal season under his belt by age 20. he also cracked 60 points as an 18-year-old, something Ennis hasn't done and wasn't on pace to do last year. Skinner has one full big-time producing season under his belt, Ennis has none. i think most people would be comfortable with giving Skinner that deal while not many would be comfortable with Ennis receiving a similar deal.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Aug 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
Two different players. No question about it. Numbers are not style, skill or leadership. Both exhibit those 3 elements at high levels, but you can't compare them outside the goals, assists and overall points. At the end of the day, only agents and GMS care about that...agents more. As far as ability---Both have plenty. Skinner will be more important to the Canes in the future. They have a building block in him. But Ennis could be a BIG part of Buffalo right now, with top minutes.
jsam7
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.27.2010

Aug 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
Tennis - 0.66 ppg career
Skinner - 0.73 ppg career

i agree it will be used as a comparison.

- IndianaSabresFan


Skinner put those numbers as an 18 & 19 yr old. If you go by potential they aren't even close.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Aug 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
Garth - you have already written about 6 or 7 players who are supposedly going to affect Ennis' deal.

No one cares. There should only be one blog about Ennis and that should be on the day he is either signed or traded.

The Sabres are one of the most boring teams in the NHL, yet they get about 14 blogs per week dedicated to absolutely nothing.

- sambarugh



So you are complaining about Garth providing you a forum to complain about him? Circle of Life.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
We should offer sheet Zack Kassian.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 8 @ 10:09 AM ET
that doesn't matter.. their point totals are not all that different and that is all the agent will look at. if you want to sign him for under 4 mil the skinner contract does NOT help your cause.
- IndianaSabresFan



Are you on drugs? One is doing that as a 20 year old, the other is two years older. That's a big difference at this stage of their careers, and Skinner still comes out WELL on top. IN terms of points, and most other things.

An arbitrator would laugh his agent out of the room if he tried to use that as a comparable.
TheFondler
St Louis Blues
Location: " I can't change the survey no
Joined: 07.06.2012

Aug 8 @ 10:09 AM ET
I vote Skinner
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