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IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:10 AM ET
Ian Esplen: U, Me, & Desbiens, Potter, Doan U, Me, & Desbiens, Potter, Doan
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:16 AM ET
I think Doan already made up his mind, with his family, in that he'll be signing in Vancouver. The summer isn't over yet and the team can still be improved after he signs here. It's a wait and see game!
MindFr3eak
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: strathvegas, ON
Joined: 01.18.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:18 AM ET
I think Doan already made up his mind, with his family, in that he'll be signing in Vancouver. The summer isn't over yet and the team can still be improved after he signs here. It's a wait and see game!
- LeftCoaster



Turning into a Shultz type Drama, what'syour cap space like? Can you handle a contract that large without moving Luongo out if doan is looking at 7+ ?
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:20 AM ET
Do you honestly think Desbiens was signed to be on the Canucks? Every year Gillis has these signings and every years people make it seem like they're given rosters spots....It's a freaking AHL signing!! Doan is definitely coming!! It adds up. I'm more sure than I was with the mentally fragile Justin Schultz.....
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:20 AM ET
Turning into a Shultz type Drama, what'syour cap space like? Can you handle a contract that large without moving Luongo out if doan is looking at 7+ ?
- MindFr3eak


It won't be 7+ Not a chance in the world he's given more than the Sedins. I see a 6 million cap hit over 3-4 years Doan doesn't strike me as a money first guy. It's about his family and winning. He can make his family happiest by coming home to B.C and it gives him the best chance to win. The Canucks will be a force next season. I can just see Gillis selling Doan. He can mentor Kassian and ride horses on his farm in Langley. While riding around with a cup in his hands. The perfect life.
MindFr3eak
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: strathvegas, ON
Joined: 01.18.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:22 AM ET
Do you honestly think Desbiens was signed to be on the Canucks? Every year Gillis has these signings and every years people make it seem like they're given rosters spots....It's a freaking AHL signing!! Doan is definitely coming!! It adds up. I'm more sure than I was with the mentally fragile Justin Schultz.....
- Boinker


Many sore asses from the Schultz crap
MindFr3eak
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: strathvegas, ON
Joined: 01.18.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:23 AM ET
It won't be 7+ Not a chance in the world he's given more than the Sedins. I see a 6 million cap hit over 3-4 years Doan doesn't strike me as a money first guy. It's about his family and winning. He can make his family happiest by coming home to B.C and it gives him the best chance to win. The Canucks will be a force next season. I can just see Gillis selling Doan. He can mentor Kassian and ride horses on his farm in Langley. While riding around with a cup in his hands. The perfect life.
- Boinker


Do you have the 6m+ freed up? Is this a leadership thing your looking for or a need in his position?
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:27 AM ET
Do you have the 6m+ freed up? Is this a leadership thing your looking for or a need in his position?
- MindFr3eak


Ya they have the cap space. They'd just trade Luongo for prospects/picks. If it came down to it they could send Raymond wioth Luongo = $7.5 and even Ballard at $4.2 They could potentially free up 11.7 pretty easily. Doan, IMO, is something we've been missing for the last three years. He'd help this team a ton in both leadership, size and goal scoring.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:40 AM ET
It won't be 7+ Not a chance in the world he's given more than the Sedins. I see a 6 million cap hit over 3-4 years Doan doesn't strike me as a money first guy. It's about his family and winning. He can make his family happiest by coming home to B.C and it gives him the best chance to win. The Canucks will be a force next season. I can just see Gillis selling Doan. He can mentor Kassian and ride horses on his farm in Langley. While riding around with a cup in his hands. The perfect life.
- Boinker

I agree. I'm sure Doans agent was just trying to drive the price up with so many suiters. Did he get offered 7.5 per? I believe if he did then that was buffalo. I don't think buffalo gets near the same price as van/Philly/nyr etc because they r a weak team.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
Ya they have the cap space. They'd just trade Luongo for prospects/picks. If it came down to it they could send Raymond wioth Luongo = $7.5 and even Ballard at $4.2 They could potentially free up 11.7 pretty easily. Doan, IMO, is something we've been missing for the last three years. He'd help this team a ton in both leadership, size and goal scoring.
- Boinker

Lots of options. Trade Raymond or Ballard.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
Zack Stortini should be paid not to play hockey.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
Do you have the 6m+ freed up? Is this a leadership thing your looking for or a need in his position?
- MindFr3eak

Both and Cancuks can easily make Doan fit under the cap. Boinker is right.It won't be for more than 6.1 mil
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
Zack Stortini should be paid not to play hockey.
- RealityChecker

LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:47 AM ET
Turning into a Shultz type Drama, what'syour cap space like? Can you handle a contract that large without moving Luongo out if doan is looking at 7+ ?
- MindFr3eak

I have no idea what the numbers look like, and I don't believe the numbers being thrown out there. With the 10% rule we have around 9 million in cap space. Gillis and Gilman are very intelligent guys, if they figure they can do it, I'm sure they'll do everything in their power to make it work. As long as the owner is on board, there are many options open to them.
Bodhisattva
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Kitchener, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:48 AM ET
Ya they have the cap space. They'd just trade Luongo for prospects/picks. If it came down to it they could send Raymond wioth Luongo = $7.5 and even Ballard at $4.2 They could potentially free up 11.7 pretty easily. Doan, IMO, is something we've been missing for the last three years. He'd help this team a ton in both leadership, size and goal scoring.
- Boinker


Oh yeah.....because sending Luongo and Ballard in the same deal will be soooooo easy. I'm sure there are teams all over the league looking to take that dollar figure on. And all of this for prospects/picks. Dreamworld, meet Canuck fans.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:48 AM ET
Hockeyy Insiderr‏@HockeyyInsiderr

BREAKING NEWS: Shane Doan met w. #CANUCKS last night. This is the 2nd meeting he had with VAN management. Only team that he met twice so far
MindFr3eak
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: strathvegas, ON
Joined: 01.18.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
Ya they have the cap space. They'd just trade Luongo for prospects/picks. If it came down to it they could send Raymond wioth Luongo = $7.5 and even Ballard at $4.2 They could potentially free up 11.7 pretty easily. Doan, IMO, is something we've been missing for the last three years. He'd help this team a ton in both leadership, size and goal scoring.
- Boinker


So if he is something you feel you really need to get over the hump is it worth it to you to trade Luongo to florida for whatever you can get or do you think will hold steadfast on the return he is looking for?

If Gillis has been waiting this whole time on Doan to decide on Luongo it could have been the holdup the whole time.

DoMiNoEs.....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:50 AM ET
So if he is something you feel you really need to get over the hump is it worth it to you to trade Luongo to florida for whatever you can get or do you think will hold steadfast on the return he is looking for?

If Gillis has been waiting this whole time on Doan to decide on Luongo it could have been the holdup the whole time.

DoMiNoEs.....

- MindFr3eak



He is a better option than Mason Raymond.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:51 AM ET
Oh yeah.....because sending Luongo and Ballard in the same deal will be soooooo easy. I'm sure there are teams all over the league looking to take that dollar figure on. And all of this for prospects/picks. Dreamworld, meet Canuck fans.
- Bodhisattva

I'm sure if Ballard was made available for a late draft pick, van could easily move him. Same goes for Raymond.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:52 AM ET
Do you have the 6m+ freed up? Is this a leadership thing your looking for or a need in his position?
- MindFr3eak

Both, IF Doan signs he can play with the twins and probably have a very productive year. That allows Burrows to slide down to the second line where him and Kes have chemistry. Now we have two good top six lines with the second being Booth Kes Bur.

If Kassian can show he's ready to stay in the NHL, that POSSIBLY allows him to play RW on the third line making Hansen and or Raymond available in a trade with Lu. Signing Doan gives Gillis a lot of options, well maybe not a lot but definitely more.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:52 AM ET
So if he is something you feel you really need to get over the hump is it worth it to you to trade Luongo to florida for whatever you can get or do you think will hold steadfast on the return he is looking for?

If Gillis has been waiting this whole time on Doan to decide on Luongo it could have been the holdup the whole time.

DoMiNoEs.....

- MindFr3eak

immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
Hockeyy Insiderr‏@HockeyyInsiderr

BREAKING NEWS: Shane Doan met w. #CANUCKS last night. This is the 2nd meeting he had with VAN management. Only team that he met twice so far

- VANTEL


News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports
Doan meeting the #Canucks tonight in VAN is a clear indication how high they are on his list if things don't work out in PHOE.

I would have at least quoted a credible source.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
I agree. I'm sure Doans agent was just trying to drive the price up with so many suiters. Did he get offered 7.5 per? I believe if he did then that was buffalo. I don't think buffalo gets near the same price as van/Philly/nyr etc because they r a weak team.
- Bieksa#3


Ya I can only see teams that wouldn't be able to attract him otherwise. I think it was Buffalo and Montreal offering up the big money.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Aug 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
Both and Cancuks can easily make Doan fit under the cap. Boinker is right.It won't be for more than 6.1 mil
- VANTEL


Ya how could they justify bringing in doan for 1.4 more that the Sedins. When players like Burrows, Kesler, Hamhuis, Bieksa and obviously the twins taking less. Doan is smart enough to understand that they have a business model. If he wants to come here he'll have to fit in.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Aug 1 @ 11:02 AM ET
If you want the make believe

Rumour_Express ‏@InsiderLegit
Well there are 3 teams..... 1 that is a big surprise... NYI, NJD, and if the Canucks fail to land Doan and then fail to get a top six (Cont)

Rumour_Express ‏@InsiderLegit
(Cont) Forward via Luongo trade they will try to get Ryan

Because he has Legit in his name, must be true.

He also speculated on this beauty

Rumour_Express ‏@InsiderLegit
If you were Florida would you take this deal? Luongo, Schroeder, Raymond for Bjugstad and Matthias.

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