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Bill Meltzer
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Nov 14 @ 8:12 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 11/14/17 @ MIN
dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 14 @ 8:17 AM ET
Not sure I am feeling good about TK with Lehtera and Filp... we will see though.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 14 @ 8:19 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 11/14/17 @ MIN
- bmeltzer


Glad to see Hak at least trying something different with the forwards and getting Weise and Lehtera on different lines.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 14 @ 8:20 AM ET
Not sure I am feeling good about TK with Lehtera and Filp... we will see though.
- dragonoffrost

yes, we will...unfortunately
dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
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Nov 14 @ 8:22 AM ET
Glad to see Hak at least trying something different with the forwards and getting Weise and Lehtera on different lines.
- BiggE


So let's put a slug on 2 lines instead of two on one line. As a matter of fact with the way Simmer is playing I'm not sure Weal is going to have fun tonight.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Nov 14 @ 8:22 AM ET


LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 14 @ 8:25 AM ET
Not sure I am feeling good about TK with Lehtera and Filp... we will see though.
- dragonoffrost


Yeah, it's not optimal, but I can live for it for a game or 2. Hopefully Patrick can return for the Winnipeg game. If so, I'd also tweak the 4th line and go with:

The usual 1st line
Weal-Filppula-Simmonds
Raffl-Patrick-TK
Leier-Laughton-Weise

Lehtera can join Read for popcorn.

And, if Lindblom continues to play well, hopefully we soon see:

The usual 1st line
Weal-Filppula-Simmonds
Raffl or Lindblom-Patrick-TK
Leier-Laughton-Raffl or Lindblom

Weise and Lehtera sharing popcorn and Read enjoying the scenic Lehigh Valley.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 14 @ 8:25 AM ET
LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 14 @ 8:36 AM ET
Expecting another high-scoring affair with the firewagon brand of hockey Minnesota plays.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
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Nov 14 @ 8:39 AM ET
Expecting another high-scoring affair with the firewagon brand of hockey Minnesota plays.
- jmatchett383


They are now known as the new New Jersey Devils and may they rot in hell.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 14 @ 8:41 AM ET
Expecting another high-scoring affair with the firewagon brand of hockey Minnesota plays.
- jmatchett383

Boudreau usually goes to the trap when his team is struggling
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 14 @ 8:41 AM ET
They are now known as the new New Jersey Devils and may they rot in hell.
- BiggE


Yep. Like the Devils, it's obviously effective, but god damn it is (frank)ing boring.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 14 @ 8:42 AM ET
Boudreau usually goes to the trap when his team is struggling
- YuenglingJagr


Maybe he (frank)ing needs to (frank)ing give his (frank)ing team another (frank)ing pre-game (frank)ing talk.
dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 14 @ 8:48 AM ET
Maybe he (frank)ing needs to (frank)ing give his (frank)ing team another (frank)ing pre-game (frank)ing talk.
- jmatchett383


Bruce is just learning from one of the best in the business on how to treat your players. None other than Dave Hakstol
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Nov 14 @ 8:50 AM ET
I just wish they would put Lehtera and Weise with Filppula and give them ~8 minutes of even strength time.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 14 @ 8:53 AM ET
a slow due to injury Patrick or one of the herman monster twins (Lehtera and Weise), pretty much wraps up the middle 6 right now

Trade for Evander Kane

short of that-

I agree move raffle up, sit Weise only because Lethera can take faceoffs and has better hands, beyond that they are about the same player. I dont think Laughton and Leier will miss a beat
dragonoffrost
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Nov 14 @ 8:53 AM ET
I just wish they would put Lehtera and Weise with Filppula and give them ~8 minutes of even strength time.
- TobyFlenderson


But that makes 2 trades and a FA Signing all failures...
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 14 @ 8:56 AM ET


Don't like the lines but gotta try something. Maybe tk weal Simmonds could get them going
FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 14 @ 9:04 AM ET
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"ggunky"
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 14 @ 9:10 AM ET
A big problem I see right now is you have almost 4 guys that just aren't bringing enough right now in the middle 6(Simmonds, Lehtera, Weise and Filpulla).

Once Patrick is back and if the 4 i mentioned seem to struggle still i would like to see the below for certain reasons:

Giroux - Couturier - Voracek
(still creating chances)

Weal - Patrick - Konecny
(small on wings but both have speed and play bigger, give two skilled wingers to the play maker Patrick)

Weise - Filpulla- Simmonds
(big wingers. line needs to keep it simple and score ugly. Maybe bring some edge. Maybe an ugly goal will break Simmonds out of ES slump)

Leier - Laughton - Raffl
(other than top line the most consistent line and plays fast)
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 14 @ 9:11 AM ET
Too many armchair coaches in here for my liking. How many of you have real world hockey experience? If not, your opinion is irrelevant, peasant!

The problem is you can't just put skill players into the lineup. Gotta have the right mix of forwards which is what Hakstol is correctly doing.

Weise and Lehtera are the glue that hold together the bottom six. They have the right amount of sand paper to their game to counterbalance the namby pampy dingly dangling of guys like TK.

This is how hockey works fellas. Been the same for 40+ years. Get with the program.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 14 @ 9:16 AM ET
A big problem I see right now is you have almost 4 guys that just aren't bringing enough right now in the middle 6(Simmonds, Lehtera, Weise and Filpulla).

Once Patrick is back and if the 4 i mentioned seem to struggle still i would like to see the below for certain reasons:

Giroux - Couturier - Voracek
(still creating chances)

Weal - Patrick - Konecny
(small on wings but both have speed and play bigger, give two skilled wingers to the play maker Patrick)

Weise - Filpulla- Simmonds
(big wingers. line needs to keep it simple and score ugly. Maybe bring some edge. Maybe an ugly goal will break Simmonds out of ES slump)

Leier - Laughton - Raffl
(other than top line the most consistent line and plays fast)

- J35Bacher



Why does leier Laughton raffl 1 es goal make them a permanent line ? Sounds like peb vdv again.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 14 @ 9:21 AM ET
ttt
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 14 @ 9:22 AM ET
Too many armchair coaches in here for my liking. How many of you have real world hockey experience? If not, your opinion is irrelevant, peasant!

The problem is you can't just put skill players into the lineup. Gotta have the right mix of forwards which is what Hakstol is correctly doing.

Weise and Lehtera are the glue that hold together the bottom six. They have the right amount of sand paper to their game to counterbalance the namby pampy dingly dangling of guys like TK.

This is how hockey works fellas. Been the same for 40+ years. Get with the program.

- StepfordSam


And what real world hockey coaching experience do you have? Kid's roller or in-house NCAA?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 14 @ 9:22 AM ET
Yep. Like the Devils, it's obviously effective, but god damn it is (frank)ing boring.
- jmatchett383


[Devils' advocate] The trap wins Cups [/Da]
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