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James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 27 @ 12:37 PM ET
James Tanner: Blues Need To Stay the Course Another first round exit should not prompt the team to panic.
Alpha_Nuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.09.2014

Apr 27 @ 12:38 PM ET
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 27 @ 12:39 PM ET

- Alpha_Nuck


Irony
Alpha_Nuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.09.2014

Apr 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
Irony
- Aetherial

Yup. Except the Canucks were picked by many to miss he playoffs and the Blues like the Sharks in years past were getting picked to finally get over the hump and have disappointed.


Hitchcock needs to go.


We've saved our good pal Backes a spot on our golf course!
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Apr 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
Good blog, but I completely disagree. They need to shuffle the deck big time (not the coach). Their miserable playoff track record is unacceptable.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
Bernier

1st, Ott, 4th
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
On what basis do you feel that you have the authority to speak on the subject?

As a Blues fan, I've watched the machinations of this team since about 1986. I understand the ebb and flow of talent as well as the what this team and others have done to adjust their teams to remain competitive in a constantly changing game.

The Blues weren't fast enough to beat a bigger Kings team. They weren't speedy enough to beat the Blackhawks (and now the Wild). This team is a tweener with a bad attitude.

Players are beginning to rebel against Hitch's message. Hitch isn't making the coaching decisions at the right time to make a difference.

Sorry, I just don't buy your argument.

The Blues need to compete within their own division. That means retooling to be a faster team. Nashville and the Blues both lost out to faster, more skilled teams.

Once they get out of the division, all bets are off. They gotta get out of the division though.
chester97
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 27 @ 12:48 PM ET
Bernier

1st, Ott, 4th

- Tumbleweed


lololololololololololololol
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 27 @ 12:54 PM ET
Nope, they're awful and you need to trade everyone. Especially Pietrangelo and Shattenkirk, those guys are bums. Edmonton will do you a favour and take them off your hands.
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Apr 27 @ 12:55 PM ET
Bernier

1st, Ott, 4th

- Tumbleweed



Dude Bernier is worth pretty much zero.
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Apr 27 @ 12:56 PM ET
Nope, they're awful and you need to trade everyone. Especially Pietrangelo and Shattenkirk, those guys are bums. Edmonton will do you a favour and take them off your hands.
- freelancer


Id push for an Eberle for Pietrangelo deal if I were Edmonton
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 27 @ 12:56 PM ET
Good blog, but I completely disagree. They need to shuffle the deck big time (not the coach). Their miserable playoff track record is unacceptable.
- The-O-G



I just think the Playoff record isn't that bad. Someone has to lose, and when the first round matchups are essentially tougher than the Cup Final it doesn't make sense to panic. Not saying you can't improve your team, but making reactionary decisions is almost always a bad idea.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
Dude Bernier is worth pretty much zero.
- The_Kuze


nah, he's an average starting goalie. he's got value

reimer on the other hand is worth less than zero
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
Dude Bernier is worth pretty much zero.
- The_Kuze



Not only that, but Jake Allen is younger and more talented.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 27 @ 12:58 PM ET
On what basis do you feel that you have the authority to speak on the subject?

As a Blues fan, I've watched the machinations of this team since about 1986. I understand the ebb and flow of talent as well as the what this team and others have done to adjust their teams to remain competitive in a constantly changing game.

The Blues weren't fast enough to beat a bigger Kings team. They weren't speedy enough to beat the Blackhawks (and now the Wild). This team is a tweener with a bad attitude.

Players are beginning to rebel against Hitch's message. Hitch isn't making the coaching decisions at the right time to make a difference.

Sorry, I just don't buy your argument.

The Blues need to compete within their own division. That means retooling to be a faster team. Nashville and the Blues both lost out to faster, more skilled teams.

Once they get out of the division, all bets are off. They gotta get out of the division though.

- eggsegan



Based on my tested IQ of 206.
Gretz2Kurri
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 01.19.2014

Apr 27 @ 12:59 PM ET
I think with the Blues, it's goaltending. They need to settle on one guy and not two like they've done in recent seasons. That was my only knock on you guys this year, otherwise this Blues team is really good,IMO.
hanleyaj
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.20.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:00 PM ET
Sabres should offer sheet Tarensko at like 5-6 years at 7-8mil a year. No way blues could match that and if they do we will be able to steal some of their other players like Backes and ect. They would be compensated two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick. Would be worth it.
Blues65
St Louis Blues
Location: Where hockey dreams die every April, MO
Joined: 10.22.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
I agree that Hitchcock isn't the problem even though he probably won't be back. The roster does not need a complete overhaul, but some changes must be made. Jackman most likely won't be back. Oshie has been rumored to be on the trade block since the midpoint of the season. After that, I think you ship out a combo of 19, 20, 21, 42....pretty much anyone not named Schwartz, Tarasenko, Pietrangelo or Shattenkirk should be made available for the right price. Look for Sobotka to be back in a Blues uniform next year too.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Apr 27 @ 1:04 PM ET
On what basis do you feel that you have the authority to speak on the subject?

As a Blues fan, I've watched the machinations of this team since about 1986. I understand the ebb and flow of talent as well as the what this team and others have done to adjust their teams to remain competitive in a constantly changing game.

The Blues weren't fast enough to beat a bigger Kings team. They weren't speedy enough to beat the Blackhawks (and now the Wild). This team is a tweener with a bad attitude.

Players are beginning to rebel against Hitch's message. Hitch isn't making the coaching decisions at the right time to make a difference.

Sorry, I just don't buy your argument.

The Blues need to compete within their own division. That means retooling to be a faster team. Nashville and the Blues both lost out to faster, more skilled teams.

Once they get out of the division, all bets are off. They gotta get out of the division though.

- eggsegan


I'd start with Backes personally....cut the head off the snake. Then go to Oshie and Jackman.
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
I watched the blues very closely this year, more than any team (not much to watch leafs wise) since my fantasy team was all blues.

To me they have always been lacking that true leader to take the team on his back. Tarasenko is amongst the most complete players in the league but not a leader.

I don't see the same 3 centres back... i wonder if the blues knew Lehtera would fit in this effectively if they still sign stasny? St Louis probably has the deepest team in the league, just don't have that jonathan toews type guy who wills them to victory. Jake allen is on his way to being a very good goalie.

Oshie, elliot and backes are the question marks (and expensive ones at that) in my opinion. I have no idea how st louis handles this defeat but change is definitely needed.
Asplanchna
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 06.26.2012

Apr 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
Not sure any of current Western teams could be or would have been an easy match-up for the Blues. Certainly not Anaheim or Calgary, and the Jets played extremely well despite the loss. Switching coaches may not be useful - who would replace Hitchcock? McLellan? Same result as per the Sharks. From what I saw in the series (and I'm not a Blues fan), a lack of strong forecheck killed them. I think a little more aggression and hitting along the wall to create turnovers would have helped. The Wild are vulnerable to aggressive checking and can be thrown off their game (also works against the Wings and a number of east coast teams).
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
I watched the blues very closely this year, more than any team (not much to watch leafs wise) since my fantasy team was all blues.

To me they have always been lacking that true leader to take the team on his back. Tarasenko is amongst the most complete players in the league but not a leader.

I don't see the same 3 centres back... i wonder if the blues knew Lehtera would fit in this effectively if they still sign stasny? St Louis probably has the deepest team in the league, just don't have that jonathan toews type guy who wills them to victory. Jake allen is on his way to being a very good goalie.

Oshie, elliot and backes are the question marks (and expensive ones at that) in my opinion. I have no idea how st louis handles this defeat but change is definitely needed.

- clark_griswold


Based on what is Tarasenko not a leader? Because he is Russian? Because he's a scoring winger? Beacuse he's not a third line grinder or Canadian first-line centre?

I mean, I don't know if he is or isn't, but how can you possibly make such a statement unless you've spent time with him personally.

Maybe his way of leading is by being f'n awesome. Maybe he brags to his friends that I feature his goals in my blog and that inspires them to do better things. Who knows?
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
Not sure any of current Western teams could be or would have been an easy match-up for the Blues. Certainly not Anaheim or Calgary, and the Jets played extremely well despite the loss. Switching coaches may not be useful - who would replace Hitchcock? McLellan? Same result as per the Sharks. From what I saw in the series (and I'm not a Blues fan), a lack of strong forecheck killed them. I think a little more aggression and hitting along the wall to create turnovers would have helped. The Wild are vulnerable to aggressive checking and can be thrown off their game (also works against the Wings and a number of east coast teams).
- Asplanchna



You can say different teams or a different style or a harder forecheck, but then again, if their othewise pretty great goalie doesn't let in two soft dud goals, they are playing in game seven.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Apr 27 @ 1:15 PM ET
I just think the Playoff record isn't that bad. Someone has to lose, and when the first round matchups are essentially tougher than the Cup Final it doesn't make sense to panic. Not saying you can't improve your team, but making reactionary decisions is almost always a bad idea.
- James_Tanner


I wouldn't call them reactionary.... they lose every GD year (have only won 1 playoff round in the past 12 seasons). The mix clearly isn't right, so what's the point in staying the course? Tough matchups or not they are not getting the job done, period. And they are going to have some serious contract issues if they don't start moving a few guys out given that they are not a cap team.

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:20 PM ET
Not only that, but Jake Allen is younger and more talented.
- James_Tanner


based on what is allen more talented? Based on Bernier having a better 5 on 5 SV% on a crappier team?
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