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jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 21 @ 12:51 AM ET
If we get doan no need for Weber. the front 4 lines will be stellar. Come on Holmy, bring it home!
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 21 @ 12:52 AM ET
Aye, there's dat, but I think that was more to scare away potential offer sheeters.



I don't think you are going to see much more of that at all. Nothing today, right? Guy has a very good chance of playing there for a very long time.

- PT21

His agent did talk about Philly being his first choice again. One of the writers had an interview today I believe.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jul 21 @ 12:53 AM ET

Last summer was mind-blowing, but more to the heart strings. And I see why the moves were made.

This whole offer sheet choas, is waaaay more interesting in the sense of all the intricacies of the contract and how it seems Homer really paint Poile in the corner.

EDIT: I'd hate to play poker with Holmgren.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:54 AM ET
I'm not equating voracek to a 2016 1st rd pick. I just won't do it. Mezsaros is worth a lot more than a 2015 1st rd pick as well.
- jstross

I agree, but I would rather do the move that will gurantee that Weber will play for us..
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 21 @ 1:01 AM ET
but they are going to match as per Deasr1
- watsonnostaw



10 pages leight but i felt this post needed some holla
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 21 @ 1:03 AM ET
His agent did talk about Philly being his first choice again. One of the writers had an interview today I believe.
- Flyers1218



I think it was the same interview. Unless you have a link that proves otherwise.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 21 @ 1:04 AM ET
Most people do not own sports teams, especially in the NHL, to make a profit.
- nhindian



some of them own sports teams because people couldn't pay them !!!


hey !!!


ho !!!
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 21 @ 1:07 AM ET
Not sure I'm ok with never seeing the sun again while I'm in Center City.
- feelingkettle




i lolled.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 1:11 AM ET
Most people do not own sports teams, especially in the NHL, to make a profit.
- nhindian


They also don't own them to lose $10mm in a year
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 21 @ 1:14 AM ET
They also don't own them to lose $10mm in a year
- Jsaquella




come on work with me here.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:18 AM ET
OK. I'll play.
V mezzy 2 firsts. Weber
Read mab cousins 3rd. Ryan
Sign doan
Send down walker Shelley. Trade lilja for future picks

Hart g Ryan
Simmer d doan
Schenn cooter talbot
Rinaldo wells rusty

Weber kimmo
Grossmann Colby
Schenn gervies

Brzy
Leighton
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Jul 21 @ 1:32 AM ET
i don't like either of those. Someone mentioned Simmonds before, I'd trade him before Jake if at all possible. 2 Schenns off limits for me.

Buy Did Luke ever have a presser? If not, you could be on to something.

- wilsonecho91


This a very good point that has been overlooked. The Flyers traded for Luke Schenn almost 4 weeks ago and haven't had a press conference to introduce him.

I still believe it could cost the Flyers both Schenn brothers and draft pick for the Preds to not match the offer sheet.

This would also give Nashville something to market to their fan base.

Whether you over or under value Voracek, those that believe Jake and Meszaros and 2 1sts would get Nashville to decline matching have to put yourself in Poile's position and wonder why would you take on a defenseman coming off back surgery and another RFA. They would rather have Schenns under contract.

sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Jul 21 @ 1:37 AM ET
I agree, but I would rather do the move that will gurantee that Weber will play for us..
- Richieattack18


It is not out of the realm of possibility especially from Dreger's reports that Homer declined to include Schenn and Couturier in the package, but Poile could have asked for both Schenns and Couturier in the package and Homer said no way he was trading Brayden and Couturier. I'm sure he doesn't want to give up any Schenn or anyone to get Weber but if he has to give up players so Nashville declines to match the offer that the flyers strongly covet, Homer may have to part with both Schenns.

Again, the offer sheet was made with the hope the Flyers get Weber as well as remove all other teams interested from getting him via trade. One would have to believe Homer thought it might be possible he would have to trade players to ensure he gets Weber.

And if I'm Poile, I say to Homer: We can match this offer but we are willing to decline at the right price. You traded Sbisa, Lupul, 2 first rounders, and a 3rd for a 34 year old Pronger who was a season away from UFA.

You want a 26 year old Weber, it's going to cost you some players like the Schenn brothers if you really want him.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:38 AM ET
some of them own sports teams because people couldn't pay them !!!


hey !!!


ho !!!

- Don'tForgetTocchet


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 21 @ 7:46 AM ET
I mentioned that earlier and that is the key everyone is ignoring. If the Preds were going to match "any offer sheet" and this was so great for Nashville, then why in the world would Poile spend his entire Wednesday working on a deal? Why not let the offer sheet roll in and then match it Thursday? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MATCH AND THE FLYERS, WEBER, HIS AGENTS, and most of all NASHVILLE know it. You don't try to trade your franchise defenseman due to the threat of an offer sheet unless you already know that team has called your bluff.
- Flyers1218


You can scream it all you want. They can match the offer. Whether they decide to do so, is another story. You make a trade if it makes more sense financially and for the future of your team, then matching it does.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 8:54 AM ET
This a very good point that has been overlooked. The Flyers traded for Luke Schenn almost 4 weeks ago and haven't had a press conference to introduce him.

I still believe it could cost the Flyers both Schenn brothers and draft pick for the Preds to not match the offer sheet.

This would also give Nashville something to market to their fan base.

Whether you over or under value Voracek, those that believe Jake and Meszaros and 2 1sts would get Nashville to decline matching have to put yourself in Poile's position and wonder why would you take on a defenseman coming off back surgery and another RFA. They would rather have Schenns under contract.

- sulshawn


The Flyers routinely acquire players during the summer and don;t have introductory PCs until several weeks later. Jagr signed on July 1st, and didn't get intro'd until August. Same thing with the PC for Simmonds, Schenn and Voracek in the wake of the Carter and Richards trades last year. Not to mention the Bryzgalov deal.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 8:55 AM ET
It is not out of the realm of possibility especially from Dreger's reports that Homer declined to include Schenn and Couturier in the package, but Poile could have asked for both Schenns and Couturier in the package and Homer said no way he was trading Brayden and Couturier. I'm sure he doesn't want to give up any Schenn or anyone to get Weber but if he has to give up players so Nashville declines to match the offer that the flyers strongly covet, Homer may have to part with both Schenns.

Again, the offer sheet was made with the hope the Flyers get Weber as well as remove all other teams interested from getting him via trade. One would have to believe Homer thought it might be possible he would have to trade players to ensure he gets Weber.

And if I'm Poile, I say to Homer: We can match this offer but we are willing to decline at the right price. You traded Sbisa, Lupul, 2 first rounders, and a 3rd for a 34 year old Pronger who was a season away from UFA.

You want a 26 year old Weber, it's going to cost you some players like the Schenn brothers if you really want him.

- sulshawn


If I am Holmgren and Poile wants what I feel is an overpayment to decline matching, I tell him to go ahead and match. The Flyers have contingency plans. One of them is in Philly today meeting with the Flyers, named Shane Doan.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 21 @ 10:05 AM ET
If I am Holmgren and Poile wants what I feel is an overpayment to decline matching, I tell him to go ahead and match. The Flyers have contingency plans. One of them is in Philly today meeting with the Flyers, named Shane Doan.
- Jsaquella



is this actually true???
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 10:14 AM ET
is this actually true???
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Yep. Doan is likely in meetings now with Holmger & Comp'ny
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
is this actually true???
- Don'tForgetTocchet

As if the Flyers didn’t have enough going on already. The Shea Weber Watch has fans excited beyond belief.

They might have something else to talk about.

According to John Gambadoro of Sports Talk Radio 620 KTAR in Phoenix, prized free agent Shane Doan is expected to meet with the Philadelphia Flyers on Saturday. Doan has already met with the New York Rangers on Friday.

Doan would prefer to remain with the Coyotes, but the ownership situation may lead the captain elsewhere.

The 16 year veteran would be a great addition to the Orange and Black. He could provide veteran leadership for a rather young team, and could replace Jaromir Jagr on that first line. However, a few other teams have shown strong interest in Doan, including the Penguins, Red Wings, and Sharks.
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