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Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:53 AM ET
hopefully that was an accidental click.
- jak521

Unfortunately I'm quite certain it wasn't.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:54 AM ET



- Juice


Where can I get one of those?
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:54 AM ET
I hate to burst your troll-bubble but not sure the preds could finance the cost at 5%. That is close to the best rates available to safe invesments. The business is losing money. It is a high risk business. A lender would only lend at such a low rate to a low risk. So either one of the owners is putting up their own money and collateral. So they have to make the same assesment. All Of it feeds into the same financial dilemma that everyone has been saying here about ticket revenue and risk of work stoppage. If it was so easy for the preds, they would have just done it by now. Bottom line is that there will Likey be a gratton deal and that homer save coots and the schenns and coburn by doing the OS move. Another bottom line, your grapes are sour, bud
- FlyersFirst

Easy there bud...how was he trolling?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 20 @ 10:54 AM ET


It's a nice fence I guess, I personally wouldn't choose it, but hey...to each their own

- Juice

oh you
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:55 AM ET
Where can I get one of those?
- tangent_man

You my friend can keep that ignore image and use it...use it wisely
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 20 @ 10:55 AM ET
still can't believe how open weber has been about wanting to leave nashville and play here.....where's ripped fuel???
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:57 AM ET
You my friend can keep that ignore image and use it...use it wisely
- Juice


No, I want a working model, preferably right next to this one...

Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:58 AM ET
oh you
- BulliesPhan87

In all honesty...as much as I 1,000,000% disagree with those cap circumventing contracts, I give HUGE respect to Homer for constantly building and adding to his roster. He never settles and almost operates in a "everything is an option" attitude.

If Weber does in fact end up wearing orange and black it's going to make it real tough to hate Philly as much as I'm supposed to. Weber is hands down the ultimate replacement for Pronger and will be an amazing leader for guys like L.Schenn, something he didn't have in Toronto.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:58 AM ET
No, I want a working model, preferably right next to this one...


- tangent_man

You can start by buying me a drink
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 20 @ 10:58 AM ET
still can't believe how open weber has been about wanting to leave nashville and play here.....where's ripped fuel???
- FlyerMike18

Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 20 @ 10:59 AM ET
The reason he only has 5% is because that was the portion that was offered.

"We’re never going to let people not from here (have) more than a certain percentage of ownership,” Cigarran said.

Also with regards to sports ownership,

"Truth be known, there are usually better pure investments than sports franchises,” said John Vrooman, a sports economist at Vanderbilt University. “The sports business is no place for cold, hard financial numbers crunchers. "

The cap hit is reasonable.. The investment is large on the front end, but losing a marquee player will have a bigger drain on the box office than long term. Nashville will take the time they need to try to determine the impact of ticket sales, playoff viability etc with and without Weber. I am guessing the numbers say keep him.


I would be more than happy to see Weber out of the western conference.

- fsanford


Seriously what are they going to pay him with???? Monopoly Money. Analyse the financials over the next five years then come talk to me....Some billionaire is going to come in and save a player who doesnt want to go to the evil flyers....gimme a break man. .. the guy said hes done with nashville...signing him is a very big risk!

in fact if they do sign him it pretty much sinks that org financially...no one is going to want to come and see a loosing preds team anyways!

Its not impossible for them to match it would just be stupid.


What no one here has asked is that if he decided to sit out for a year or two does he still get the money...
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
da juice is loose!
- OrangeBlack27



how did he respond to a post that hadn't been posted yet???


*scared of juice*
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 20 @ 11:01 AM ET
still can't believe how open weber has been about wanting to leave nashville and play here.....where's ripped fuel???
- FlyerMike18




agents workin magic, ill take it
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 20 @ 11:01 AM ET
You can start by buying me a drink
- Juice


Little early in the day for me, but...


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:01 AM ET
The reason he only has 5% is because that was the portion that was offered.
- fsanford



Fact remains, everything has to pass through a vote, and I don't think anybody can say with any certainty that the other investors holding the other 88-95% voting rights would be as comfortable with digging the any hole deeper.

And yeah, nobody buys a sports franchise with the expectations of turning a profit, but nobody buys one in the hopes of sinking their fortunes into a bottomless pit, either.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 20 @ 11:01 AM ET
still can't believe how open weber has been about wanting to leave nashville and play here.....where's ripped fuel???
- FlyerMike18



he's probably feeling pretty lost and confused that a player actually used his line...
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 20 @ 11:02 AM ET
Fact remains, everything has to pass through a vote, and I don't think anybody can say with any certainty that the other investors holding the other 88-95% voting rights would be as comfortable with digging the any hole deeper.

And yeah, nobody buys a sports franchise with the expectations of turning a profit, but nobody buys one in the hopes of sinking their fortunes into a bottomless pit, either.

- Tomahawk


effin the any hole
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:04 AM ET
In all honesty...as much as I 1,000,000% disagree with those cap circumventing contracts, I give HUGE respect to Homer for constantly building and adding to his roster. He never settles and almost operates in a "everything is an option" attitude.

If Weber does in fact end up wearing orange and black it's going to make it real tough to hate Philly as much as I'm supposed to. Weber is hands down the ultimate replacement for Pronger and will be an amazing leader for guys like L.Schenn, something he didn't have in Toronto.

- Juice

I hope something is done about the front loaded contracts. I feel big markets teams need some capacity to throw their money around, but these are clearly not good for pro hockey.

Also, I'm so hoping we get Weber, but that should be assumed. Much excitement.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 20 @ 11:05 AM ET
For all the Naysayers heres nashvilles income statement.....yeah good luck matching



Lol you see theat 6.5 million subsidies....are they going to ask the tax payers to pay weber lol
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:07 AM ET
I hope something is done about the front loaded contracts. I feel big markets teams need some capacity to throw their money around, but these are clearly not good for pro hockey.

Also, I'm so hoping we get Weber, but that should be assumed. Much excitement.

- BulliesPhan87


startiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing now
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:09 AM ET
startiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing now
- FlyerMike18

Hey, we're talking about tomorrow's rules. Today, this is a legal move
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 20 @ 11:09 AM ET
startiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing now
- FlyerMike18



next week works for me
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:10 AM ET
Hey, we're talking about tomorrow's rules. Today, this is a legal move
- BulliesPhan87


believe me i'm with you
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:12 AM ET
believe me i'm with you
- FlyerMike18

Now if only the next six days would go by faster, all this waiting on the edge of my seat is a pain in the butt.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 20 @ 11:13 AM ET
*See that this post was reported*


- Juice

I absolutely loathe his opin but in no way did it warrant a report. He's actually bringing some good thinking to the board... oh wait isn't that against the rules?
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