Such a dumb remark, alot of goaltenders in the league would be Quicks backup.
- ThePresident

A lot of 1st year players would be third liners on the Leafs? I think it's easier to see Frattin turning into a 2nd liner that plays the style of game the Leafs need, moreso than Bernier turning into a legit number 1.

Your comparing frattin to a guy that got drafted in the 1st round, is 6'3 and 215 pounds and your saying oooo frattin fits our system big bodied winger... than tell me what ashton is hmmm? Kadri obviously has the higher ceiling and has more upside and potential then frattin... kadri has skill that doesnt just fall from trees and has playmaking abilities and excellent vision and that good pass. Kadri is more of a setter even if hes not cut out to be a centerman he will be a good winger who sets the play. Frattin is just a big solid guy on his skates who can get those cheeky goals but looks like a mere 3rd line winger. That is all.
- Mapleleafs_91

Did you even watch Ashton?

frattin is far more than a 4th
- DarcyTucker16

well you know, since Bernier was drafted in the 1st round and Frattin in the 4th, that's what they're both worth.. makes perfect sense....

Ok what about this, Parise, Suter and now Weber (hypothetical examples) all want trades in four years. They're all 31 years old with nine and ten years left on their deals. They are only worth salary cap dumps because their contracts are somehow considered bad and too long? They are great players and they deserve a good return, same with Lu who just turned 33.
- LeftCoaster

yup same thing.

They sign the contract in good faith and now they want out. Shouldn't of signed that long contract.
The long contract is used to get around the cap.

A lot of 1st year players would be third liners on the Leafs? I think it's easier to see Frattin turning into a 2nd liner that plays the style of game the Leafs need, moreso than Bernier turning into a legit number 1.
- Leafland

So how is frattin any more better than kadri for being on the 2nd line? when kadri is obviously the better player and has better stats in the AHL..............................................

yes lemme tell you thats special, when i can put basically steckel on the first line and he can acquire 40 pts in a full season with kessel and lupul, nice logic
- Mapleleafs_91

Did that happen? I thought Steckle got 13 points?

Did you even watch Ashton?
- Leafland

yeah he did nothing for the leafs, might have a better camp this season.

Did that happen? I thought Steckle got 13 points?
- Leafland

put him on the first line, guarantee he can get 40 just like bozak or a stalberg

Your comparing frattin to a guy that got drafted in the 1st round, is 6'3 and 215 pounds and your saying oooo frattin fits our system big bodied winger... than tell me what ashton is hmmm? Kadri obviously has the higher ceiling and has more upside and potential then frattin... kadri has skill that doesnt just fall from trees and has playmaking abilities and excellent vision and that good pass. Kadri is more of a setter even if hes not cut out to be a centerman he will be a good winger who sets the play. Frattin is just a big solid guy on his skates who can get those cheeky goals but looks like a mere 3rd line winger. That is all.
- Mapleleafs_91

It is hard to say what he will be, he can score if he can transfer those skills to the NHL he will be a great 2nd line winger. He reminds me a lot of Kulemin.

Rumor Break‏@RumorBreak

source: "If no changes are made soon, Burke will be fired, He has been notified of that, and He wishes to make a BIG trade soon."

lolz, Burke is like God, referring him as He

So how is frattin any more better than kadri for being on the 2nd line? when kadri is obviously the better player and has better stats in the AHL..............................................
- Mapleleafs_91

Never said he was better than Kadri. I was ignoring Kadri, he's a 2nd liner to, they will look great together.

well you know, since Bernier was drafted in the 1st round and Frattin in the 4th, that's what they're both worth.. makes perfect sense....
- peddy-93

Thanks for answering my obvious question, I guess that settles who is more valuable to a team.

put him on the first line, guarantee he can get 40 just like bozak or a stalberg
- Mapleleafs_91

You guaranteeing it means nothing. It didn't happen, it wouldn't happen.

Rumor Break‏@RumorBreak

source: "If no changes are made soon, Burke will be fired, He has been notified of that, and He wishes to make a BIG trade soon."

lolz, Burke is like God, referring him as He
- peddy-93

He already made a change... schenn for JVR wow has everyone forgot about taht already .... BIG TRADE SOON... i like that..... bobby ryan to the leafs and luongo WOOOOO

yup same thing.

They sign the contract in good faith and now they want out. Shouldn't of signed that long contract.
The long contract is used to get around the cap.
- dmnted

I don't get why contracts are longer than 5 years, No contract should be longer than 5-7 years. It is just getting out of hand.

He already made a change... schenn for JVR wow has everyone forgot about taht already .... BIG TRADE SOON... i like that..... bobby ryan to the leafs and luongo WOOOOO
- Mapleleafs_91

Yeah, what a great change that was.

You guaranteeing it means nothing. It didn't happen, it wouldn't happen.
- Leafland

Actually it would happen. You make it seem like its so hard to acquire 40 pts in the NHL playing with top elite talent. Those guys cant even pass the 50 pt mark.... you make it seem impossible when you can shove connolly on the first line and he will acquire 40 pts are more... what did he acquire again? 36 pts ooo wow couple more points he would of been just as good as bozak? wow thats amazing lemme tell you

Thanks for answering my obvious question, I guess that settles who is more valuable to a team.
- ThePresident

You're welcome Mr.President

Yeah, what a great change that was.
- Leafland

nhl 12 said we ripped of the flyers, and i will belive that

nhl 12 said we ripped of the flyers, and i will belive that
- Mapleleafs_91

It is too early to say now.

I am more frightened that Philly may have Weber, Pronger and Schenn going into next season

Actually it would happen. You make it seem like its so hard to acquire 40 pts in the NHL playing with top elite talent. Those guys cant even pass the 50 pt mark.... you make it seem impossible when you can shove connolly on the first line and he will acquire 40 pts are more... what did he acquire again? 36 pts ooo wow couple more points he would of been just as good as bozak? wow thats amazing lemme tell you
- Mapleleafs_91

Well if you are going to be accurate on Connollys points, be accurate on Bozak's, he had 47. A bit more than a couple for Connolly.

Rumor Break‏@RumorBreak

source: "If no changes are made soon, Burke will be fired, He has been notified of that, and He wishes to make a BIG trade soon."

lolz, Burke is like God, referring him as He
- peddy-93

That's awesome... If it's coming from RumorBreak, it has to be true...

nhl 12 said we ripped of the flyers, and i will belive that
- Mapleleafs_91

Well if you are going to be accurate on Connollys points, be accurate on Bozak's, he had 47. A bit more than a couple for Connolly.
- Leafland

once again, put connolly on the first line for the full season, he would have the same amount of points or more than bozak

Ok what about this, Parise, Suter and now Weber (hypothetical examples) all want trades in four years. They're all 31 years old with nine and ten years left on their deals. They are only worth salary cap dumps because their contracts are somehow considered bad and too long? They are great players and they deserve a good return, same with Lu who just turned 33.
- LeftCoaster

Blame the gm's for that poop... I must have and will pay anything at all......dumbasses