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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 22 @ 6:23 PM ET
Not sure if this has popped up yet but:

https://twitter.com/Alexa...Zaytsev/...54649890582528

Quote:
Yashin's agent to Sovsport: Alexei has a contract offer from an NHL club. Yashin feels like he's got a few more years in him to play hockey.

Looks like he still has good hands. One year tryout at low salary for worst case #2 center position? Just a thought. Really think he may be too righ risk, low return so hoping Chicago is not that team with the offer to return to the NHL

- ikeane


He had very good chemistry in Ottawa with . . . Marian Hossa.
flahawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NC
Joined: 08.03.2009

Jul 22 @ 6:24 PM ET
You bet.. I'd say averaging a SCF every 5.5 years is alright in my book.
- moylander


I'm puzzled. How are the Flyers all that much more of a contender than the Hawks are of late? So they made it one more round than the Hawks in the past two years, since each made it to the Cup Final -- which the Hawks won. Did anybody really think, after the goal-fest in the first round this past year, that the Flyers had any chance in hell of winning the Cup with Bryz in net? And the year before, they were completely obliterated in the second round by the Bruins. I guess I don't see how getting one more round the past two years, then getting dominated in the second round, makes the Flyers and Holmgren so superior to the Hawks and Bowman. At least the Hawks don't have freaking Bryzgalov hanging around their necks like an albatross for eight more years. And what if Holmgren succeeds in getting Weber, and Weber doesn't turn out to be worth all of that $$?

Sorry, I don't see where Holmgren comes off looking all that much better than Bowman does, yet you continually go on about how Bowman sucks and Holmgren is some kind of great savior. At best, I'd say the jury is out on Holmgren. IMO, the only thing he has on Bowman thus far is that he's hired the better coach.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jul 22 @ 6:25 PM ET
You bet.. I'd say averaging a SCF every 5.5 years is alright in my book.
- moylander

I know I would be happy if I was a flyer fan. With everything: owner, GM, coach, all the good young players
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 22 @ 6:25 PM ET
Not sure if this has popped up yet but:

https://twitter.com/Alexa...Zaytsev/...54649890582528

Quote:
Yashin's agent to Sovsport: Alexei has a contract offer from an NHL club. Yashin feels like he's got a few more years in him to play hockey.

Looks like he still has good hands. One year tryout at low salary for worst case #2 center position? Just a thought. Really think he may be too righ risk, low return so hoping Chicago is not that team with the offer to return to the NHL

- ikeane


I believe Yashin was rumored to be looking for a job in the NHL last summer, and of course, did not play in the NHL.

If I'm not mistaken, isn't Yashin like Jokinen in the sense that he's a lazy player and a locker room cancer? If that's the truth, I say pass on Yashin.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 22 @ 6:38 PM ET
Speaking of the Flyers, isn't Ed Snider the Cahirman of Comcast Sports, who is owned by NBC, who has the US TV contract with the NHL? I just do not like the conflict of interest the NHL has, and it all stems from Bettman, who cannot be trusted.

I wsill never stop fighting to bring justice to this league. As long as Bettman is in charge, there will be scandles like Pittsburgh winning the "Crosby Lottery", Chicago winning the #1 draft pick in the year that there was not a true #1 player, Phoenix advancing so far in the playoffs just to get the sale completed. I know there are more, I just can't think of them right now.

Go ahead and laugh,, but no one thought anything was going on at Penn State either!
JR1973
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Joined: 06.12.2010

Jul 22 @ 6:48 PM ET
This part of the article worries me:

Bowman couldn't land the likes of Ryan Suter or Zach Parise. He tried and couldn't do it. They didn't want to come to Chicago. Shane Doan is waiting for the Coyotes to figure it out; and when they do, he'll stay in the desert. Bowman balked at every trade offer at the draft, and now we're stuck.



No offseason aqusitions (beyond Brookbank) + Gun shy on trades + Front Office dysfunction (Prez thru coaching staff) = another good regular season followed by a frustrating post season....
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 22 @ 6:57 PM ET
I'm puzzled. How are the Flyers all that much more of a contender than the Hawks are of late? So they made it one more round than the Hawks in the past two years, since each made it to the Cup Final -- which the Hawks won. Did anybody really think, after the goal-fest in the first round this past year, that the Flyers had any chance in hell of winning the Cup with Bryz in net? And the year before, they were completely obliterated in the second round by the Bruins. I guess I don't see how getting one more round the past two years, then getting dominated in the second round, makes the Flyers and Holmgren so superior to the Hawks and Bowman. At least the Hawks don't have freaking Bryzgalov hanging around their necks like an albatross for eight more years. And what if Holmgren succeeds in getting Weber, and Weber doesn't turn out to be worth all of that $$?

Sorry, I don't see where Holmgren comes off looking all that much better than Bowman does, yet you continually go on about how Bowman sucks and Holmgren is some kind of great savior. At best, I'd say the jury is out on Holmgren. IMO, the only thing he has on Bowman thus far is that he's hired the better coach.

- flahawkfan

I always try to be careful not to confuse activity with accomplishment, that said, when it comes to my sports teams, I'd much rather have a GM who by all appearances is at least trying to address his teams needs. Stan just appears clueless.

Just out of curiosity, since you mentioned Bryzgalov's anchor of a contract, are you pro, or anti-Luongo to Chicago?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 22 @ 7:16 PM ET
I'm puzzled. How are the Flyers all that much more of a contender than the Hawks are of late? So they made it one more round than the Hawks in the past two years, since each made it to the Cup Final -- which the Hawks won. Did anybody really think, after the goal-fest in the first round this past year, that the Flyers had any chance in hell of winning the Cup with Bryz in net? And the year before, they were completely obliterated in the second round by the Bruins. I guess I don't see how getting one more round the past two years, then getting dominated in the second round, makes the Flyers and Holmgren so superior to the Hawks and Bowman. At least the Hawks don't have freaking Bryzgalov hanging around their necks like an albatross for eight more years. And what if Holmgren succeeds in getting Weber, and Weber doesn't turn out to be worth all of that $$?

Sorry, I don't see where Holmgren comes off looking all that much better than Bowman does, yet you continually go on about how Bowman sucks and Holmgren is some kind of great savior. At best, I'd say the jury is out on Holmgren. IMO, the only thing he has on Bowman thus far is that he's hired the better coach.

- flahawkfan


It's the difference between a club that has made the final four or better 6 times in the last 15 years vs. one that has won play-off series only twice in that time.

It's the difference between a team that recognized a goalie problem and went out and got one vs. a team that may not even recognize it has a goalie problem (even tho it didn't work out for them, but who would you bet on coming back to past performance, Brzgalov or Crawford?).

And what if Weber becomes a perennialnNorris candidate in Philadelphia?

It's the difference between an operation that goes for it vs. one that seems willing to wait and wait and wait....
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 22 @ 7:40 PM ET
I believe Yashin was rumored to be looking for a job in the NHL last summer, and of course, did not play in the NHL.

If I'm not mistaken, isn't Yashin like Jokinen in the sense that he's a lazy player and a locker room cancer? If that's the truth, I say pass on Yashin.

- EKolb13


Yashin eh....hmmmm.

He'll be 39 in November, and had ok numbers in the KHL. I have no clue what his reputation is in the room, but if scouts think he can still play a short term deal with incentives may be worth it.

He did play well with Hossa in Ottawa back in the day.

The only other veteran center is Arnott...he'll be 38 this fall. 17g 17a for 34 pts last year.

Otherwise, it's a trade that's seems impossible for SB to pull off, for god only knows who....

Interesting rumor....but wouldn't call it something to get excited over.....meh
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jul 22 @ 7:49 PM ET
It's the difference between a club that has made the final four or better 6 times in the last 15 years vs. one that has won play-off series only twice in that time.

It's the difference between a team that recognized a goalie problem and went out and got one vs. a team that may not even recognize it has a goalie problem (even tho it didn't work out for them, but who would you bet on coming back to past performance, Brzgalov or Crawford?).

And what if Weber becomes a perennialnNorris candidate in Philadelphia?

It's the difference between an operation that goes for it vs. one that seems willing to wait and wait and wait....

- StLBravesFan

+1
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 22 @ 8:15 PM ET
Yashin eh....hmmmm.

He'll be 39 in November, and had ok numbers in the KHL. I have no clue what his reputation is in the room, but if scouts think he can still play a short term deal with incentives may be worth it.

He did play well with Hossa in Ottawa back in the day.

The only other veteran center is Arnott...he'll be 38 this fall. 17g 17a for 34 pts last year.

Otherwise, it's a trade that's seems impossible for SB to pull off, for god only knows who....

Interesting rumor....but wouldn't call it something to get excited over.....meh

- ArlingtonRob


Haven't we had enough experience with 39 year olds on one-year contracts?
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Jul 22 @ 8:25 PM ET
Haven't we had enough experience with 39 year olds on one-year contracts?
- StLBravesFan

Lightning in a bottle baby,remember Morrison?
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 8:32 PM ET
I'm puzzled. How are the Flyers all that much more of a contender than the Hawks are of late? So they made it one more round than the Hawks in the past two years, since each made it to the Cup Final -- which the Hawks won. Did anybody really think, after the goal-fest in the first round this past year, that the Flyers had any chance in hell of winning the Cup with Bryz in net? And the year before, they were completely obliterated in the second round by the Bruins. I guess I don't see how getting one more round the past two years, then getting dominated in the second round, makes the Flyers and Holmgren so superior to the Hawks and Bowman. At least the Hawks don't have freaking Bryzgalov hanging around their necks like an albatross for eight more years. And what if Holmgren succeeds in getting Weber, and Weber doesn't turn out to be worth all of that $$?

Sorry, I don't see where Holmgren comes off looking all that much better than Bowman does, yet you continually go on about how Bowman sucks and Holmgren is some kind of great savior. At best, I'd say the jury is out on Holmgren. IMO, the only thing he has on Bowman thus far is that he's hired the better coach.

- flahawkfan



Bigger, Faster, More Physical, More balanced, Much more depth, Better special teams.... and a better coach. Yes.... the hawks won it 3 seasons ago (congrats - i loved watching that hawks team play) and since then regressed.... flyers got stronger. Flyers today are a better team than in 2010... can you say the same for the hawks?
CBHawks88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Pallie
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 22 @ 9:13 PM ET
Bigger, Faster, More Physical, More balanced, Much more depth, Better special teams.... and a better coach. Yes.... the hawks won it 3 seasons ago (congrats - i loved watching that hawks team play) and since then regressed.... flyers got stronger. Flyers today are a better team than in 2010... can you say the same for the hawks?
- moylander



Is that a serious question?
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 22 @ 9:16 PM ET
Haven't we had enough experience with 39 year olds on one-year contracts?
- StLBravesFan


Doesn't excite me, but as a stop gap for year...all things considered, might be worth taking a chance.

Who knows...older, experienced players can surprise ya sometimes.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 22 @ 9:17 PM ET
Bigger, Faster, More Physical, More balanced, Much more depth, Better special teams.... and a better coach. Yes.... the hawks won it 3 seasons ago (congrats - i loved watching that hawks team play) and since then regressed.... flyers got stronger. Flyers today are a better team than in 2010... can you say the same for the hawks?
- moylander

They are better than in 2010 and I love the way the Flyer brass approaches things hockey wise.

Unfortunately, their problems are very similar to Chicago's - not good enough on the blueline or between the pipes. In fact, without Weber the Hawks have a better group of defenceman 1-7 and are about the same in net which is to say average at best.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 22 @ 9:18 PM ET
Lightning in a bottle baby,remember Morrison?
- eagle50


Based solely on numbers, I'd take Yashin in a NY minute over Morrison. I don't think it's a good comparison.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 22 @ 9:20 PM ET
Based solely on numbers, I'd take Yashin in a NY minute over Morrison. I don't think it's a good comparison.
- ArlingtonRob


On a one year with him having played with Hossa before may be worth it as long as it is at under 2 mil cap hit...perhaps 1.5 for one year?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 22 @ 9:29 PM ET
On a one year with him having played with Hossa before may be worth it as long as it is at under 2 mil cap hit...perhaps 1.5 for one year?
- ikeane



Given his age and a sense from the NHL I can't see any team giving him anything but a 1 year deal. I agree, 1 year for $1.5- $2.0 might be worth the risk. Yashin can't be worse than Brunette can he? The chemistry with Hossa is a bonus.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 22 @ 9:30 PM ET
On a one year with him having played with Hossa before may be worth it as long as it is at under 2 mil cap hit...perhaps 1.5 for one year?
- ikeane


1.5 Sounds good to us....but some one will offer him 3- 4.5 mill and we won't get him....
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 22 @ 9:33 PM ET
Based solely on numbers, I'd take Yashin in a NY minute over Morrison. I don't think it's a good comparison.
- ArlingtonRob

What numbers are you referring to? The fact he hasn't played in the NHL in 5 years? Or he will be 39 this year? Or he probably hasn't played more than 50-60 games a season in the KHL and probably dogged it and slept walked thru 1/2 of those.

Hard and fast rule never to be broken: If the name isn't Malkin or Datsyuk - just walk away. Let them be somebody else's problem.

StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:33 PM ET
On a one year with him having played with Hossa before may be worth it as long as it is at under 2 mil cap hit...perhaps 1.5 for one year?
- ikeane


Guys -

Morrison, Brunette, O'Donnell - enough.

Get someone with blood still flowing thru his veins.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 22 @ 9:39 PM ET
What numbers are you referring to? The fact he hasn't played in the NHL in 5 years? Or he will be 39 this year? Or he probably hasn't played more than 50-60 games a season in the KHL and probably dogged it and slept walked thru 1/2 of those.

Hard and fast rule never to be broken: If the name isn't Malkin or Datsyuk - just walk away. Let them be somebody else's problem.

- RickJ

Agreed
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Jul 22 @ 9:40 PM ET
Based solely on numbers, I'd take Yashin in a NY minute over Morrison. I don't think it's a good comparison.
- ArlingtonRob

I wasn't trying to compare the two.I as well would seriously entertain the idea of giving Yashin a try!It appears that the Hawk brass isn't trying anything else and this will only cost money!If the Hawks are going to wait for their prospects then a stop gap may be in order!
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 22 @ 9:42 PM ET
I've got 3 words. SARA JEAN UNDERWOOD.
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