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Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Jul 18 @ 9:26 AM ET
[quote=DarcyTucker16]
so what your saying is leaf fans get criticized for saying luongos value has dropped because his own team is replacing him and hes proven to choke in numerous playoffs... but a teams franchise player who is still a top goal scorer in the league and has no knock against him other than being maybe 1 mill per year overpaid is allowed to go to edmonton for an undersized average 2nd line centre and a consistent hospital bill?



DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:27 AM ET
I wonder how people will react if Hemsky puts up 70+ points and Gagner puts up 60+ points this year?


Heads would explode.

- robin_steele264

well gagner is believable but if hemsky put up 70+ points that would be insane cuz it would most likely be in somewhere around 38.7 games sooo ya that would boggle me
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jul 18 @ 9:27 AM ET
BOOOOOOM... you got me
- DarcyTucker16

And also with Brasard (he was almost a goal a game player)when he was stellar before going down with injury after a figth with Neal
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Jul 18 @ 9:28 AM ET
Try reading it. Nash would agree with the deal if it meant he gets moved to the Rangers in the end. Three-team deals happen often.
- Maxbone


Do they? Do you remember the last one?

And Nash accepting the trade isn't even what makes this ridiculous.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 18 @ 9:30 AM ET
Do they? Do you remember the last one?

And Nash accepting the trade isn't even what makes this ridiculous.

- Jeffmt

quincey/downie?
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:30 AM ET
And also with Brasard (he was almost a goal a game player)when he was stellar before going down with injury after a figth with Neal
- Alexzanki


i know i was just stressing the point that if he had an actual first line centre he would have a lot higher numbers than 80 points... which in itself is still good
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
You never go full retard man...
- Pilgor09

Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Jul 18 @ 9:36 AM ET
i know i was just stressing the point that if he had an actual first line centre he would have a lot higher numbers than 80 points... which in itself is still good
- DarcyTucker16

he's like the mats sundin or phil kessel of columbus..
if he only had wingers or a center, imagine what he could do.....
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 18 @ 9:42 AM ET
I think this would work screw Nash

Edm:mdz,dubi,1st and 2nd rounder

NYR:hall,paarj(can't spell) ,2nd rounder

- volcom955


Dream on! Not even close to a deal I'd do.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 18 @ 9:48 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: Could the Oilers Deal for Rick Nash?
- Maxbone

No way if I'm the Oilers do I deal Hemsky and Gagner for a dman in return. I'd do Hemsky and Paajarvi plus a prospect and pick to get Nash if he would come here. That would give you:
Hall-RNH-Ebs
Nsh-Gags-Yakupov
Smyth-Horcs-Jones
I think that there is one of the top 3 best forward corps in the league. The D will work it self out. There are 11 NHL Dmen competeing for 7 spots. Use those assets to trade if needed.
bullrx
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 10.11.2008

Jul 18 @ 9:49 AM ET
I wonder how people will react if Hemsky puts up 70+ points and Gagner puts up 60+ points this year?


Heads would explode.

- robin_steele264

And I wonder how people will react if Hemsky is hurt AGAIN and put up 20+ points and Gagner puts up 40+ points (AGAIN) this year???
BarDownBobo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: St. Paul, AB
Joined: 04.11.2012

Jul 18 @ 9:52 AM ET
Personally, I wish they would change the rules to that if you offer sheeted a person, you had the length of the contract to determine when you wanted to take the draft picks. That would make it quite interesting and would allow teams more flexibility to move players. So if you offered sheeted a player to a 10 year contract at max compensation, the team would have 10 years to decide when to use those 4 picks.
- dgutzman

For what it's worth, I really like that idea. Same idea as where Jersey has 3 years to forfeit a 1st. This would maybe make offer sheets more common, as I believe they should be.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 18 @ 9:53 AM ET
Edmonton...or any Canadian team for that matter are not on his list of teams, so no package would get it done. If Howson can't land a deal for Nash...a 3-way deal would be even more difficult.

Having said that, why would any big market team want an over-hyped player who's too much of a nancyboy to play in a big market?

The best players thrive in the spotlight under pressure...you don't want someone who's trying to avoid it.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 9:54 AM ET
You won't get nash for gagner and hemsky. Stop smoking crack.
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 18 @ 9:55 AM ET
I think this would work screw Nash

Edm:mdz,dubi,1st and 2nd rounder

NYR:hall,paarj(can't spell) ,2nd rounder

- volcom955


No it wouldn't
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:56 AM ET
Fiction can be fun
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 9:57 AM ET
Edmonton...or any Canadian team for that matter are not on his list of teams, so no package would get it done.

Having said that, why would any big market team want an over-hyped player who's too much of a nancyboy to play in a big market?

The best players thrive in the spotlight under pressure...you don't want someone who's trying to avoid it.

- Juice


I don't get the comment about the pressure. Nash would help a team like the Rangers who lack the firepower upfront.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:01 AM ET
Edmonton...or any Canadian team for that matter are not on his list of teams, so no package would get it done. If Howson can't land a deal for Nash...a 3-way deal would be even more difficult.

Having said that, why would any big market team want an over-hyped player who's too much of a nancyboy to play in a big market?

The best players thrive in the spotlight under pressure...you don't want someone who's trying to avoid it.

- Juice

Keep yancy out of this.


I think a 3 way could work because a team like the Rags is giving up defense, but does CBJ need defense? No, so now you look at a team who has offense.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:11 AM ET
not even remotely close...


Add RNH and a 1st and you're getting in Howson's wheelhouse...


EDIT: and I'm not saying that's reasonable, I'm saying that's the price...

- Big_Lightnin

If that's really Howsons asking price, than I hope Nash enjoys his time off. Oilers wouldn't do RNH for Nash straight up, much less adding a first. Howson is a retard.
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 18 @ 10:13 AM ET
Keep yancy out of this.


I think a 3 way could work because a team like the Rags is giving up defense, but does CBJ need defense? No, so now you look at a team who has offense.

- Lahey


Depends on what we're giving up in said deal. I'm dead against moving Gagner unless we have another center of equal or greater skill to replace him.

Look how long it's taken Tambellini to address the blueline. I don't want to see him dither to replace Gagner.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:20 AM ET
Depends on what we're giving up in said deal. I'm dead against moving Gagner unless we have another center of equal or greater skill to replace him.

Look how long it's taken Tambellini to address the blueline. I don't want to see him dither to replace Gagner.

- Starbuck

Well in all honesty replacing Gagner won't be hard, we don't need to get a top end 2C. We have the wingers to make up for a weaker 2nd line center, especially if it means getting a good young d-man out of new york.

I could live with
RNH
Horcoff
Belanger
VV/Lander/Random vet.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:21 AM ET
I don't want Nash anyways. Not sure why Edmonton or NYR do this deal.

EDIT: and I don't think Staal is a guy that puts us over the top.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:23 AM ET
I don't want Nash anyways. Not sure why Edmonton or NYR do this deal.

EDIT: and I don't think Staal is a guy that puts us over the top.

- GuyLaDouche

What was the actual trade? I'm just talking hypothetical bs.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:25 AM ET
Well in all honesty replacing Gagner won't be hard, we don't need to get a top end 2C. We have the wingers to make up for a weaker 2nd line center, especially if it means getting a good young d-man out of new york.

I could live with
RNH
Horcoff
Belanger
VV/Lander/Random vet.

- Lahey

You could? That looks (frank)ing awful to me. Puts a poopload of burden on a 19 year old, as no pivots beneath him can really do much offensively. Plays literally die on the sticks of Horcoff and Belanger.
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 18 @ 10:26 AM ET
I don't want Nash anyways. Not sure why Edmonton or NYR do this deal.

EDIT: and I don't think Staal is a guy that puts us over the top.

- GuyLaDouche


I think Del Zotto would be a better long term fit. Staal will jump ship to Carolina in a couple of seasons.
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