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hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

Jul 19 @ 10:50 AM ET
Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown
Weber: "I signed long-term with the Flyers because I want to win a Cup, and this seems like the easiest way to wind up doing that in LA."


- Symba007

Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jul 19 @ 10:50 AM ET
No, if you match you can't trade the player for a whole year.

But why the hell would they want to trade him anyway?

- Scabeh


Once he is signed who is going to want to trade for him, 7.85 mil for the next 14 years is insane
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 19 @ 10:50 AM ET
68 million in bonuses over the first 6 years, talk about a big (frank) you to the rest of the owners.
- Oilhab


Wow.

How can Bettman say his offer his serious after that?

(frank)ing ridiculous.
Traceur
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Animosity, QC
Joined: 03.27.2008

Jul 19 @ 10:50 AM ET
Nope 2 1sts a 2nd and a 3rd
- RENATO6


it's 4 first round picks because you divide the total amount of the contract by 5 year max to get the salary you use to determine the compensation
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 19 @ 10:51 AM ET
Once he is signed who is going to want to trade for him, 7.85 mil for the next 14 years is insane
- Oilhab


It's Shea (frank)ing Weber!
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 19 @ 10:51 AM ET
68 million in bonuses over the first 6 years, talk about a big (frank) you to the rest of the owners.
- Oilhab


yeah, I guess you can afford that when you are not building a condo tower
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jul 19 @ 10:52 AM ET
yeah, I guess you can afford that when you are not building a condo tower
- stinger67

Will the tower atleast be part Hotel?

First 5 levels hotel and the rest condos would be a good idea for that area.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 19 @ 10:53 AM ET
68 million in bonuses over the first 6 years, talk about a big (frank) you to the rest of the owners.
- Oilhab



Weber will receive $14 mil in each of 1st 4 years. $12 mil in next 2 yrs. $6mil in following 4 yrs...then $3mil and $1mil, $1mil,$1mil,$1mil



_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 19 @ 10:54 AM ET
Weber will receive $14 mil in each of 1st 4 years. $12 mil in next 2 yrs. $6mil in following 4 yrs...then $3mil and $1mil, $1mil,$1mil,$1mil




- weirdoh

hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

Jul 19 @ 10:54 AM ET
yeah, I guess you can afford that when you are not building a condo tower
- stinger67

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 19 @ 10:54 AM ET
Weber will receive $14 mil in each of 1st 4 years. $12 mil in next 2 yrs. $6mil in following 4 yrs...then $3mil and $1mil, $1mil,$1mil,$1mil




- weirdoh


How is this any different than the Kovalchuk contract?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 19 @ 10:54 AM ET
How is this any different than the Kovalchuk contract?
- Scabeh



most of it is signing bonuses
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jul 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
Weber will receive $14 mil in each of 1st 4 years. $12 mil in next 2 yrs. $6mil in following 4 yrs...then $3mil and $1mil, $1mil,$1mil,$1mil




- weirdoh


The Kovalchuk clause was it had to be no less then half the previous year, right?

So they are screwed.
basementfloor
Montreal Canadiens
Location: My Big Mac only had one meat and too much special sauce :(
Joined: 08.05.2009

Jul 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
How is this any different than the Kovalchuk contract?
- Scabeh


that Pekka Rinne mother(frank)er didn't get all pissed off about Kovalchuk.
basementfloor
Montreal Canadiens
Location: My Big Mac only had one meat and too much special sauce :(
Joined: 08.05.2009

Jul 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
most of it is signing bonuses
- Don'tForgetTocchet


GTFO
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 19 @ 10:56 AM ET
How is this any different than the Kovalchuk contract?
- Scabeh

But let's say they have to forfeit a 1st rounder in the next 3 years like the Devils, will the offer sheet still stand, considering they won't have 4 1st round picks? Does it have to be 1st picks in the next 4 years?
hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

Jul 19 @ 10:56 AM ET
Weber will receive $14 mil in each of 1st 4 years. $12 mil in next 2 yrs. $6mil in following 4 yrs...then $3mil and $1mil, $1mil,$1mil,$1mil




- weirdoh


Funny but I wish Bergevin did this with Subban's contract.

One (frank)ing cap circumvention before the new CBA kicks in.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 19 @ 10:57 AM ET
Will the tower atleast be part Hotel?

First 5 levels hotel and the rest condos would be a good idea for that area.

- Oilhab


I don't know, maybe...I know they intend to build a Habs sports bar at ground level, a gym and some other stuff. Molson said that they are still working on that, he could not even tell for sure how many square feet the Sports Bar will be.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
http://www.pensionplanpup...sation-table-offer-sheets
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
that Pekka Rinne mother(frank)er didn't get all pissed off about Kovalchuk.
- basementfloor




I think a certain unkown soldier is going to have dust off the boonie hat and shades and bring the fight back to the NHL on behalf of the Preds. That team is gonna go nowhere fast...even David Legwand can't save that team now.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
I don't know, maybe...I know they intend to build a Habs sports bar at ground level, a gym and some other stuff. Molson said that they are still working on that, he could not even tell for sure how many square feet the Sports Bar will be.
- stinger67

They'll just move the Cage aux Sports in the tower.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
But let's say they have to forfeit a 1st rounder in the next 3 years like the Devils, will the offer sheet still stand, considering they won't have 4 1st round picks? Does it have to be 1st picks in the next 4 years?
- _nay_


Hard to tell with the NHL.

They have rules but they only enforce them when they feel like it.
basementfloor
Montreal Canadiens
Location: My Big Mac only had one meat and too much special sauce :(
Joined: 08.05.2009

Jul 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
They'll just move the Cage aux Sports in the tower.
- _nay_

Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jul 19 @ 10:59 AM ET
I think a certain unkown soldier is going to have dust off the boonie hat and shades and bring the fight back to the NHL on behalf of the Preds. That team is gonna go nowhere fast...even David Legwand can't save that team now.
- weirdoh

But that solider wears black and orange panties.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 19 @ 10:59 AM ET
The Kovalchuk clause was it had to be no less then half the previous year, right?

So they are screwed.

- Oilhab



i actually cannot remember the rules about that, anyone in here remember?

google not helping
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