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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 20 @ 10:57 AM ET
Let's offer sheet Evander Kane.

I mean why not? Everyone's doing it!

- Scabeh


Surprising that it's not happening more often, really.
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:57 AM ET
Big Jays trade.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 10:58 AM ET
Surprising that it's not happening more often, really.
- Pecafan Fan



well when you look at Weber it seems that they tried to work out a trade that would be better for everyone and then the Flyers just got sick of waiting. I'm guessing the threat of it makes some trades happen that benefit both sides... what the (frank) do I know though....
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 20 @ 10:59 AM ET
Big Jays trade.
- mcmanmat


Pitchers?

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT!!!!!!
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 10:59 AM ET
Big Jays trade.
- mcmanmat



the finger dude. it works.

that or smoked meat (no code)
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 20 @ 10:59 AM ET
Big Jays trade.
- mcmanmat

Snider in Boston - Lawrie may be headed to DL
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:59 AM ET
Pitchers?

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT!!!!!!

- Pecafan Fan


BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 20 @ 10:59 AM ET

- mcmanmat

Tomorrow may be the day
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
Surprising that it's not happening more often, really.
- Pecafan Fan

BURKE WOULD OFFER SHEET EVERYBODY!

Or trade more for the guy to avoid one.
LeafsOwnHabs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.12.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
Big Jays trade.
- mcmanmat


10 player deal!
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
BURKE WOULD OFFER SHEET EVERYBODY!

Or trade more for the guy to avoid one.

- AdamFrench

mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
the finger dude. it works.

that or smoked meat (no code)

- dt99999


Meh. Don't much care now that they've scheduled the inducement.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
well when you look at Weber it seems that they tried to work out a trade that would be better for everyone and then the Flyers just got sick of waiting. I'm guessing the threat of it makes some trades happen that benefit both sides... what the (frank) do I know though....
- dt99999


Maybe we'll see more in the future, with the ridiculous length of contracts given to "top" players, the UFA pool seems to get weaker every year. So maybe the GMs will go the offersheet route in order to get a high profile player.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 11:01 AM ET
Maybe we'll see more in the future, with the ridiculous length of contracts given to "top" players, the UFA pool seems to get weaker every year. So maybe the GMs will go the offersheet route in order to get a high profile player.
- Pecafan Fan



I miss the days when we didn't know anything about what players made....
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Jul 20 @ 11:01 AM ET
Maybe we'll see more in the future, with the ridiculous length of contracts given to "top" players, the UFA pool seems to get weaker every year. So maybe the GMs will go the offersheet route in order to get a high profile player.
- Pecafan Fan

If it keeps going you could see RFA after 7 years and UFA after 10 in the next CBA.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 11:02 AM ET
Meh. Don't much care now that they've scheduled the inducement.
- mcmanmat


oh... can I give it a shot then?
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Jul 20 @ 11:02 AM ET
I miss the days when we didn't know anything about what players made....
- dt99999

Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:02 AM ET
I miss the days when we didn't know anything about what players made....
- dt99999


In terms of money you mean?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 20 @ 11:03 AM ET
Maybe we'll see more in the future, with the ridiculous length of contracts given to "top" players, the UFA pool seems to get weaker every year. So maybe the GMs will go the offersheet route in order to get a high profile player.
- Pecafan Fan


I guess it could happen with the very few elite players.

But to make an offer big enough so the other team doesn't match... you have to overpay (therefore giving away more picks) or take advantage of their cap situation.

Is a guy like Evander Kane worth 2 1st a 2nd and a 3rd?
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Jul 20 @ 11:03 AM ET
In terms of money you mean?
- Pecafan Fan

No in terms of papier maché
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jul 20 @ 11:03 AM ET

Michelle Jenneke from Losse Veter on Vimeo.

LeafsOwnHabs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.12.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:04 AM ET
In terms of money you mean?
- Pecafan Fan


no food stamps.
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 11:04 AM ET
oh... can I give it a shot then?
- dt99999


Try it out on your wife first; let me know the results.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 20 @ 11:04 AM ET
If it keeps going you could see RFA after 7 years and UFA after 10 in the next CBA.
- braidan


I doubt the whole ufa after 10 years makes it through the negociation really.

Everything that's been offered by the owners will either be heavily diminished or dropped completely.

It's a typical "first offer"
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 11:04 AM ET
In terms of money you mean?
- Pecafan Fan


yes... and we could look at trades based on who got the better player...


holy poop we talk about players almost only in terms of salary now...


(frank) the goals and assists...

they should give a trophy to the player who has the best points per dollar average.
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