It would be hard for me to justify paying a guy much more than the minimum to be essentially one dimensional.

About 30% of his goals come on the PP.
would there really be 2:00+ per night on the PP for him?

If he would sign for 1M or less, I could stomach that.
But anything more than that for a guy who doesn't kill penalties and we don't really have quality time for on the PP isn't a direction I would go, personally.
- nails

One of the big issues against teams like NYR and BOS was getting a big body down low to occupy the defensemen, which allowed them to block more shots from the outside. If Arnott can be a big body and wreak havoc and occupy the defensemen, he could be pretty valuable on the PP

One of the big issues against teams like NYR and BOS was getting a big body down low to occupy the defensemen, which allowed them to block more shots from the outside. If Arnott can be a big body and wreak havoc and occupy the defensemen, he could be pretty valuable on the PP
- Jsaquella

True dat my brother.

If we have the cap room, using it on Rusty and a player like Arnott makes sense. A couple veterans to guide the kids makes sense.

I don't like Briere on the wing, and prefer Schenn there on the second line.

I would like to see Voracek also on Briere's line.

-Jersey Gent
Still an opening at RW with Giroux then.

Well, at this point, I doubt Fedotenko is going to eat up all of Jagr's PP minutes (sarcasm), so some of those minutes could conceivably be available for Arnott.
- BringBack25

I would much rather see those minutes go to the kids

One of the big issues against teams like NYR and BOS was getting a big body down low to occupy the defensemen, which allowed them to block more shots from the outside. If Arnott can be a big body and wreak havoc and occupy the defensemen, he could be pretty valuable on the PP
- Jsaquella

I can bite on that point.
still would have to be a very reasonable cap hit.

Is Moore still available?

Harts G Voracek
Schenn Briere Simmonds
Read Coots Rusty
Rinaldo Arnott Talbot

One of the big issues against teams like NYR and BOS was getting a big body down low to occupy the defensemen, which allowed them to block more shots from the outside. If Arnott can be a big body and wreak havoc and occupy the defensemen, he could be pretty valuable on the PP
- Jsaquella

Yep. Having a big body like arnott in a clutch and grab league again isn't such a bad idea. I think the flyers have minimal interest. Unless they swing a weber dealing sending one of the kids out

Alex Semin is still unsigned and there's an opening on the top line.

I would much rather see those minutes go to the kids
- nails

I have no objection to that, but I don't think that in and of itself is a reason not to bring in a guy who will help out big time at the dot, add some veteran leadership, and add size at the center position.

Hell, even if Arnott doesn't get any PP time (and consequently doesn't score as much), I'm still fine with bringing him in just for the size at the center spot and the face off skills. I would imagine we'd be looking for him to play a 3rd/4th line role on this team, not counting on him for a lot of offense and/or PP goals.

I would not be in favor of promising him a spot in the top 6, so if that's what he wants, I don't see him as a fit.

Alex Semin is still unsigned and there's an opening on the top line.
- bradleyc4

And we worry about Briere back checking

And we worry about Briere back checking
- nails

Semin can actually play defense, when he's so inclined.

I have no objection to that, but I don't think that in and of itself is a reason not to bring in a guy who will help out big time at the dot, add some veteran leadership, and add size at the center position.

Hell, even if Arnott doesn't get any PP time (and consequently doesn't score as much), I'm still fine with bringing him in just for the size at the center spot and the face off skills. I would imagine we'd be looking for him to play a 3rd/4th line role on this team, not counting on him for a lot of offense and/or PP goals.

I would not be in favor of promising him a spot in the top 6, so if that's what he wants, I don't see him as a fit.
- BringBack25

Agreed.
My point is I don't want to pay him what he has been getting to essentially do less.
It's all about the cap hit to me, not about what he can bring to the table.

Alex Semin is still unsigned and there's an opening on the top line.
- bradleyc4

Guessing that means Alex Semin is still holding out for a long term deal (or at least a longer term deal than teams have offered so far).

Semin can actually play defense, when he's so inclined.
- Jsaquella

But it is soooo much less work to let someone else do it for you

Agreed.
My point is I don't want to pay him what he has been getting to essentially do less.
It's all about the cap hit to me, not about what he can bring to the table.
- nails

I could go to $3.5mm or so, because in losing Jagr and Carle, they do have more flexibility, even with Jake getting a raise

But it is soooo much less work to let someone else do it for you
- nails

I'd be OK with Semin on a shorter term deal. He's not ideal, but the advanced stats show he can be a solid two way player.

I could go to $3.5mm or so, because in losing Jagr and Carle, they do have more flexibility, even with Jake getting a raise
- Jsaquella

he only made 2.8 last year

I'd be OK with Semin on a shorter term deal. He's not ideal, but the advanced stats show he can be a solid two way player.
- Jsaquella

I would gladly bring him in.
I just think the fan base would crucify him on a regular basis

he only made 2.8 last year
- nails

I was providing my comfort level for a number. I don't mind if he gets a slight raise.

Been gone since last Sunday, anything noteworthy happen while I was away?

I would gladly bring him in.
I just think the fan base would crucify him on a regular basis
- nails

I'm sure they would. But if he scored 45 goals and looked interested and seemed to play hard, I could see a bunch of Bros at Xfinity Live wearing "Jizz" Flyers shirsheys

I would gladly bring him in.
I just think the fan base would crucify him on a regular basis
- nails

Yea he'd definitely get Scurkoed here

I'd be OK with Semin on a shorter term deal. He's not ideal, but the advanced stats show he can be a solid two way player.
- Jsaquella

Same here.

Also, not that he'll ever be a Selke candidate, but some of the blame for his poor defense goes to Boudreau. Hardly anyone on that team was accountable for playing defense for most of his tenure. And Semin did play much better defensively under Hunter when it was made clear to everyone that defensive was required.

He wasn't my first choice, but he might be the best of what's left.

How do you go from being jonathan cheechoo scoring 150 goals in 4 years with the sharks to being jonathan cheechoo with playing the last 2.5 season in the AHL?

Same here.

Also, not that he'll ever be a Selke candidate, but some of the blame for his poor defense goes to Boudreau. Hardly anyone on that team was accountable for playing defense for most of his tenure. And Semin did play much better defensively under Hunter when it was made clear to everyone that defensive was required.

He wasn't my first choice, but he might be the best of what's left.
- BringBack25

I think it is true that he's the best of what's left.

My gut tells me that the Flyers have no interest.

My gut, while on a roll, is also telling me that the Flyers will wait for the trade deadline.

-Jersey Gentleman