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feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
If you want a good laugh, go to Ek's main blog (been up for 20+ hours). There is a guy calling himself Van Damage, with a Van Dam type picture.

On a separate note, there was a great scene in the 40 year old virgin. "Do you know how I know you're?????????????"

The avatar comment and the movie comments are 100% unrelated - just putting pen to paper of my random funny thoughts today. Just a fan of the avatar and a fan of the movie. Not related at all. To be clear, NOT RELATED.

- Daman[/img]

da man
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
Briere has always been bad defensively, and I don't think that's ever changed in a big way. A lot can affect +/-...bad defensive play by the dmen, by the forwards, softies by the goalie, or just more production on special teams. You can look at +/- specifically, but you have to watch the games too. Look at what Bill said a couple posts back. The things that stand out about Briere is what he was able to create offensively. If the team is playing great team d, then it's not as big an issue.

Again, Briere's D play is not going to win or lose the team any games.

- feelingkettle


Agreed. And if I need a big goal to tie a game, or win a game in OT, in the playoffs. There isn't many players I would choose over Briere to be out there. That's why I want him on my team come playoff time. It's that simple. The guy is simply money in the bank in clutch situations.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
I smell some sexy role playing.
- Deasr1

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:02 PM ET
So... just stay out of Philly then?
- ChrisMS

Yea cause that stuff only happens in Philly... I would advise getting a redsox shirt and head down to the Yankee stadium parking lot, should be real safe.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
Damn faulty memory Thanks, but i'm still going to have to double check later. I remember the puck in transition, someone, maybe Gus then, skating toward the bench, then a quick outlet pass and game over
- KINGKENZO



I'm pretty sure it was Gustafsson making the bad change behind the play.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
Agreed. And if I need a big goal to tie a game, or win a game in OT, in the playoffs. There isn't many players I would choose over Briere to be out there. That's why I want him on my team come playoff time. It's that simple. The guy is simply money in the bank in clutch situations.
- MJL


Perhaps you are not aware of the financial crisis, but I don't believe "money in the bank" is a valid saying anymore.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
Agreed. And if I need a big goal to tie a game, or win a game in OT, in the playoffs. There isn't many players I would choose over Briere to be out there. That's why I want him on my team come playoff time. It's that simple. The guy is simply money in the bank in clutch situations.
- MJL

He gets it done offensively. Having lots of solid two way forwards is a good idea, but at the end of the day you need those spark plugs for when the puck just won't go.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:04 PM ET
It is a flawed stat but not so much that it gets completely tossed out. If used in the right context it's and indicator of things.

In the case of Brind'Amour yes he played on some bad teams so those bad years don't affect his playoff numbers in regards to +/- in which he finished +7. In the case of Briere I don't think he's been on bad teams since coming to Philadelphia at least.

- JoeRussomanno


He played on a piss poor defensive one last year.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:05 PM ET
Believe it or not, that is not me in my avatar, so I am not offended.
- feelingkettle


Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
Believe it or not, that is not me in my avatar, so I am not offended.
- feelingkettle


Good to see some people with a sense of humor. Glad to see not eveyrone has a stick up their butt.

Not saying those people with a stick are on these boards. To be clear, that is not the case. NOT AT ALL.

What I am saying is that everyone here is cool but you are a good example. And all those people with sticks are NOT HERE.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:09 PM ET
He played on a piss poor defensive one last year.
- Jsaquella

That's something that most definitely needs to be and looks to have been addressed. Looking forward to how the season plays out.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:12 PM ET
Good to see some people with a sense of humor. Glad to see not eveyrone has a stick up their butt.

Not saying those people with a stick are on these boards. To be clear, that is not the case. NOT AT ALL.

What I am saying is that everyone here is cool but you are a good example. And all those people with sticks are NOT HERE.

- Daman

I recommend this for your reading.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:14 PM ET
OK, thoughts on ek's new twists? Weber for Nash straight up




Edit: what they will be.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
Perhaps you are not aware of the financial crisis, but I don't believe "money in the bank" is a valid saying anymore.
- Daman

Sure it is. JP Morgan, even with factoring in monumental loss on the investment side, posted record profits last week. Wells Fargo and JP posted billions in profit.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 17 @ 2:19 PM ET
Agreed. And if I need a big goal to tie a game, or win a game in OT, in the playoffs. There isn't many players I would choose over Briere to be out there. That's why I want him on my team come playoff time. It's that simple. The guy is simply money in the bank in clutch situations.
- MJL


Totally agree on Briere. He's money. He's not great defensively, but we need what he brings. Simple as that.

The other day I was thinking of when he was signed here. I remember a debate raging wondering if we should get him or Gomez. Hindsight is 20/20, but wow, did Homer make the right call on MANY levels.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:19 PM ET
Sure it is. JP Morgan, even with factoring in monumental loss on the investment side, posted record profits last week. Wells Fargo and JP posted billions in profit.
- KINGKENZO


And you think they aren't getting government help to stay in business?

Pull this leg and it plays jingle bells.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 17 @ 2:20 PM ET
Scurko went bizerko
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:22 PM ET
Agreed. And if I need a big goal to tie a game, or win a game in OT, in the playoffs. There isn't many players I would choose over Briere to be out there. That's why I want him on my team come playoff time. It's that simple. The guy is simply money in the bank in clutch situations.
- MJL


It's very important to have a clutch player in your line up come PO time. Those who disappear during the post season usually don't get asked back.

See, e.g., one Alex Semin.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:22 PM ET
And you think they aren't getting government help to stay in business?

Pull this leg and it plays jingle bells.

- Daman

Mind taking this to politicsbuzz?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 17 @ 2:24 PM ET
And you think they aren't getting government help to stay in business?

Pull this leg and it plays jingle bells.

- Daman


Yo, Litgo!

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 17 @ 2:25 PM ET
So did we trade Voracek and Read for Ryan yet?
- Philly1980

he's working on it
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:25 PM ET
Mind taking this to politicsbuzz?
- BulliesPhan87



Sorry.

Please continue with trades that will never happen, how bad Briere is on defense and good on offense, sign Hamels now, get er done with Semin (never going to happen), and a touch of last night's conversation on the tooth fairy.

Again, my sincere apologies and did not mean to make a joke about our financial system. Everything is in great shape, even though I heard congress tell the Fed Chairman to "get to work".

-Da Jersey Gentle Man
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
Yo, Litgo!


- tangent_man



Bloody blue, bloody blue.

One of the funniest characters ever in a movie.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:28 PM ET
Sorry.

Please continue with trades that will never happen, how bad Briere is on defense and good on offense, sign Hamels now, get er done with Semin (never going to happen), and a touch of last night's conversation on the tooth fairy.

Again, my sincere apologies and did not mean to make a joke about our financial system. Everything is in great shape, even though I heard congress tell the Fed Chairman to "get to work".

-Da Jersey Gentle Man

- Daman

Apology accepted.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:28 PM ET
Sorry.

Please continue with trades that will never happen, how bad Briere is on defense and good on offense, sign Hamels now, get er done with Semin (never going to happen), and a touch of last night's conversation on the tooth fairy.

Again, my sincere apologies and did not mean to make a joke about our financial system. Everything is in great shape, even though I heard congress tell the Fed Chairman to "get to work".

-Da Jersey Gentle Man

- Daman

Nothing gentle about your sarcasm sir
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