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maverickJ
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Earth, ON
Joined: 04.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 1:38 PM ET
il bet 100 anyday vs, usa, russia, sweden, you name it!

olypmic gold medals for hockey = canada.

- big_dion


I wish we took the world cup more seriously.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:40 PM ET
kipper is worth more than that.

IMO

- big_dion


What would you give up?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:41 PM ET
Hey guys, anyone want to chime in (serious/non trolling comments) on my blog?

Current question: What would the Leafs need to send to Calgary for Kipper?

This wont be a Phaneuf 2.0 deal...fair hockey trade...what does it take?

- Colin Dambrauskas

At 35 years old?
It's something I hope the leafs never do...but if they had to....
Owuya, a 2nd, Mac + (maybe) mid level prospect
cor99
Location: ON
Joined: 07.15.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:42 PM ET
At 35 years old?
It's something I hope the leafs never do...but if they had to....
Owuya, a 2nd, Mac

- Fakepartofme


Only if they throw in Iginla.... and Bartschi
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
*Puts away knife*
- AdamFrench

* just like Adam to bring a knife to a gun fight*
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:44 PM ET
At 35 years old?
It's something I hope the leafs never do...but if they had to....
Owuya, a 2nd, Mac

- Fakepartofme


Luongo is 33...10 year contract
Kipper is 35....1 year contract

Both have very solid numbers....
maverickJ
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Earth, ON
Joined: 04.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
Luongo is 33...10 year contract
Kipper is 35....1 year contract

Both have very solid numbers....

- Colin Dambrauskas


What do you think he is worth?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:46 PM ET
Luongo is 33...10 year contract
Kipper is 35....1 year contract

Both have very solid numbers....

- Colin Dambrauskas

I understand that.
So now you are trading for an old goalie with a 1 year contract....at least with lou he's locked up.

But that's about all I would trade for him.
Besides Iggy and Kipper, I wouldn't waste trading anything with Calgary....nothing of interest.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 17 @ 1:48 PM ET
I understand that.
So now you are trading for an old goalie with a 1 year contract....at least with lou he's locked up.

But that's about all I would trade for him.
Besides Iggy and Kipper, I wouldn't waste trading anything with Calgary....nothing of interest.

- Fakepartofme

What you don't want the 2021 Hart trophy winner?
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jul 17 @ 1:49 PM ET
more than a 1rst and a roster player? or what I would be willing to pay
- maverickJ

You have to realize that even an older Kiprusoff is vastly better than anything you have for goalies right now, and better than what most NHL teams asides from the Rangers, Kings and Preds have. You won't get him for peanuts.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:49 PM ET
What do you think he is worth?
- maverickJ


Honestly? Nothing the Leafs would/could offer.

Calgary needs more depth down the middle, doubt the Leafs move what little depth they have for Kipper. Think he would be a nice addition, though.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:50 PM ET
What would you give up?
- Colin Dambrauskas


id give up MacArthur, a prospect (ashton, d'amigo, colborne) 1 of them, and a first.

id say kipper has 4 good years left in him. his contract is only 1 more year. perfect fit for smoothing in a young goalie.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:50 PM ET
You have to realize that even an older Kiprusoff is vastly better than anything you have for goalies right now, and better than what most NHL teams asides from the Rangers, Kings and Preds have. You won't get him for peanuts.
- GuyLaDouche


Problem Calgary has right now with their goalies, is Kipper has played 90% of the last 5-6 seasons and his "understudies" have yet to get enough experience. They need to start playing their younger guys and consider he may be leaving soon.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:51 PM ET
Honestly? Nothing the Leafs would/could offer.

Calgary needs more depth down the middle, doubt the Leafs move what little depth they have for Kipper. Think he would be a nice addition, though.

- Colin Dambrauskas

Calgary needs more than depth down the middle...they need alot more....dont kid yourself.
The leafs could easily trade for him....but they have to overpay and it wouldn't be worth it.
maverickJ
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Earth, ON
Joined: 04.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 1:51 PM ET
Honestly? Nothing the Leafs would/could offer.

Calgary needs more depth down the middle, doubt the Leafs move what little depth they have for Kipper. Think he would be a nice addition, though.

- Colin Dambrauskas


Lol on we have nothing that would make the deal work? Or nothing that we would be willing to part with?

I don't think his value is as high as you think it is. He is 35 on a one year contract thus an old rental player. Very talented, but not reliable or worth giving your future for unless a team like philly or boston wants him to make a run.
maverickJ
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Earth, ON
Joined: 04.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 1:52 PM ET
id give up MacArthur, a prospect (ashton, d'amigo, colborne) 1 of them, and a first.
- big_dion


why would you give up a first?
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:53 PM ET
Calgary needs more than depth down the middle...they need alot more....dont kid yourself.
The leafs could easily trade for him....but they have to overpay and it wouldn't be worth it.

- Fakepartofme


I didnt say, Calgary "only" needs more depth down the middle. What was meant is that they need to start acquiring more depth, which imo, if they moved either Kipper or Iggy, there would be young talent coming back, likely down the middle.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:53 PM ET
why would you give up a first?
- maverickJ


beacuse if we had kipper in net we would be in the playoffs more than likely.

i dont mind giving up 17th pick overall
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jul 17 @ 1:53 PM ET
id give up MacArthur, a prospect (ashton, d'amigo, colborne) 1 of them, and a first.
- big_dion

That might be closer, but I bet Fatster would want a better roster player. Kulemin at least.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 17 @ 1:53 PM ET
id give up MacArthur, a prospect (ashton, d'amigo, colborne) 1 of them, and a first.
- big_dion


Wow, if that first turned into Seguin, that would be the worst trade in Leafs history. The guy is 35.

Just sayin, look at what happen with the Kessel deal, when that first turned into Seguin, And, Burke got a great young player and took that much heat..
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:54 PM ET
I didnt say, Calgary "only" needs more depth down the middle. What was meant is that they need to start acquiring more depth, which imo, if they moved either Kipper or Iggy, there would be young talent coming back, likely down the middle.
- Colin Dambrauskas

That would be a starting point.
Iggy would bring back the most.
Kipper wouldn' t bring as much as you hope he would
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:54 PM ET
I didnt say, Calgary "only" needs more depth down the middle. What was meant is that they need to start acquiring more depth, which imo, if they moved either Kipper or Iggy, there would be young talent coming back, likely down the middle.
- Colin Dambrauskas


Mac, Colborne, 1st.

id do it.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
Lol on we have nothing that would make the deal work? Or nothing that we would be willing to part with?

I don't think his value is as high as you think it is. He is 35 on a one year contract thus an old rental player. Very talented, but not reliable or worth giving your future for unless a team like philly or boston wants him to make a run.

- maverickJ




Both teams are roughly in the same boat, save for the Leafs having more prospects. But, each team needs upgrades in youth, and down the middle...neither will likely be able to make a deal together, imo.
maverickJ
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Earth, ON
Joined: 04.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
beacuse if we had kipper in net we would be in the playoffs more than likely.

i dont mind giving up 17th pick overall

- big_dion


Next years draft is going to be a deep one, I would not give up 17th overall for a rental player.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
Wow, if that first turned into Seguin, that would be the worst trade in Leafs history. The guy is 35.

Just sayin, look at what happen with the Kessel deal, when that first turned into Seguin, And, Burke got a great young player and took that much heat..

- bixll


essentially you slide kadri in for mac's spot.

colborne in my eyes will be at best a 3C.

1st rounder i dont see how the leafs would end up bottom 5 with kipper.

our team isnt all that bad. WAY better than when we aquired kessel.
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