I'm thinking something like
25-35-60pts
This kid is going to be really good

And I LOVE our center depth
Hodgson & Ennis already here
Grigorenko & Girgensons not far away
And don't forget Catenacci
And maybe Sundher

These guys are all 22 or younger!!!
Center will be a position of strength for years to come

Tarnasky would be a interesting fit as a 4C.. allows McCormick to move to Winger.

McM - Tarnasky - Kaleta

Scott - Weber/Regehr

enter the ice like the Ottawa-Buffalo Brawl.

I'm sorry that I'm old school.. I love guys that are physical and will crack someone right upside their head for saying the wrong thing..
- JVince11

does he have the skill to ice more than 4 min per game in the nhl?

I'm thinking something like
25-35-60pts
This kid is going to be really good

And I LOVE our center depth
Hodgson & Ennis already here
Grigorenko & Girgensons not far away
And don't forget Catenacci
And maybe Sundher

These guys are all 22 or younger!!!
Center will be a position of strength for years to come
- jdfitz77

problem is we'll have too many top line centers, hodge grigs and ennis could all be 1C/2C guys, Z, catenacci and sundher could all be 2C/3C guys....which means 1 or 2 would have to go to bring in some winger depth, preferably RW

does he have the skill to ice more than 4 min per game in the nhl?
- SabresFaninIndiana

he will be in Rochester... and his history in the NHL shows that he would log more than 4 mins.

7 mins average in his career.. lol

problem is we'll have too many top line centers, hodge grigs and ennis could all be 1C/2C guys, Z, catenacci and sundher could all be 2C/3C guys....which means 1 or 2 would have to go to bring in some winger depth, preferably RW
- qcstudios

That's just it, you don't have to move someone to get a winger, you simply move the center to wing. Teams do it all the time. Philly is a good example. It's a lot easier to have a guy move from center to wing, than it is the other way around.

problem is we'll have too many top line centers, hodge grigs and ennis could all be 1C/2C guys, Z, catenacci and sundher could all be 2C/3C guys....which means 1 or 2 would have to go to bring in some winger depth, preferably RW
- qcstudios

That's a problem I'm willing to have.

problem is we'll have too many top line centers, hodge grigs and ennis could all be 1C/2C guys, Z, catenacci and sundher could all be 2C/3C guys....which means 1 or 2 would have to go to bring in some winger depth, preferably RW
- qcstudios

Not necessarily
We already know Ennis can play LW
Grigorenko was projected by some as a RW, not a center
A guy with the physicality of Girgensons can shift to the wing pretty easily I'd think also

Centers play on the wing all the time
Marleau in SJ... And even Pavelski this past year
Briere & Carter in Philly
Heck, remember when we had Briere, Drury, Connolly, Roy, Gaustad, Mair, Novotny....
A lot of those guys were playing wing
ESP goose & roy when they first came up
Connolly even played wing on Drury's line for a bit

Having too many centers is not a bad problem to have

How in Hell did Kevin Sylvester get a radio show?? He is the WORST host Ive ever heard....I am PRAYING that he isnt Jenerreats eventual replacement. For the last year Ive been saying, if Uncle Terry really has no limit of spending....PLLLLLLLEEEEEEEAASSSSEEE tell Pete Weber youll triple his salary to come back when RJ retires.

ANYONE but Sylvester

That's just it, you don't have to move someone to get a winger, you simply move the center to wing. Teams do it all the time. Philly is a good example. It's a lot easier to have a guy move from center to wing, than it is the other way around.
- HonkFortheGoose

didnt really think about that. good point

Not necessarily
We already know Ennis can play LW
Grigorenko was projected by some as a RW, not a center
A guy with the physicality of Girgensons can shift to the wing pretty easily I'd think also

Centers play on the wing all the time
Marleau in SJ... And even Pavelski this past year
Briere & Carter in Philly
Heck, remember when we had Briere, Drury, Connolly, Roy, Gaustad, Mair, Novotny....
A lot of those guys were playing wing
ESP goose & roy when they first came up
Connolly even played wing on Drury's line for a bit

Having too many centers is not a bad problem to have
- jdfitz77

ennis plays better as a center, and where would we move our wingers that we have now though? vanek, pommer, staff, foligno. none of those players should play below the 2nd line.

problem is we'll have too many top line centers, hodge grigs and ennis could all be 1C/2C guys, Z, catenacci and sundher could all be 2C/3C guys....which means 1 or 2 would have to go to bring in some winger depth, preferably RW
- qcstudios

its like having too much pitching in baseball..... if we have to many top line centers you trade one for a better player

its like having too much pitching in baseball..... if we have to many top line centers you trade one for a better player
- hubie

I doubt that everyone in the system stays at center in the first place. I would actually venture a guess to say that Catenacci ends up a winger. He's a bit smaller, so I can see Ruff moving him to wing. Time will tell though.

ennis plays better as a center, and where would we move our wingers that we have now though? vanek, pommer, staff, foligno. none of those players should play below the 2nd line.
- qcstudios

Depends how you set up your team
We don't have to have the 3rd line be a "checking" unit
We can role 3 scoring lines
And vanek & Pommer are free agents after next season,
No guarantee they'll be back

At any rate,
Having too many good forwards is hardly a problem
Gives us the depth to package a couple "good" players for a "great" one

I doubt that everyone in the system stays at center in the first place. I would actually venture a guess to say that Catenacci ends up a winger. He's a bit smaller, so I can see Ruff moving him to wing. Time will tell though.
- HonkFortheGoose

Theres also no guarantee ALL these guys work out
Catenacci could just as easily be a miss as he could be a hit
Grigorenko could decide to go to the KHL at some point

Of course, some of these guys could also be traded too

Depends how you set up your team
We don't have to have the 3rd line be a "checking" unit
We can role 3 scoring lines
And vanek & Pommer are free agents after next season,
No guarantee they'll be back

At any rate,
Having too many good forwards is hardly a problem
Gives us the depth to package a couple "good" players for a "great" one
- jdfitz77

ill take 3 lines of checking lines who score

he will be in Rochester... and his history in the NHL shows that he would log more than 4 mins.

7 mins average in his career.. lol
- JVince11

Just watched 5 or 6 Tarnasky fights from 2 years ago when he was in the NHL. I don't think he won any of them. Lucic absolutely destroyed him. I'll give him credit for being a willing combatant against big Milan though, I guess.

Good depth guy to have, I guess, in case McMuscle goes down.

Just watched 5 or 6 Tarnasky fights from 2 years ago when he was in the NHL. I don't think he won any of them. Lucic absolutely destroyed him. I'll give him credit for being a willing combatant against big Milan though, I guess.

Good depth guy to have, I guess, in case McMuscle goes down.
- Powerslave

yea... he is not a Milan Lucic ass kicker thats for sure... he stands up for his team and that good and all but just to get beat up doesn't do any good...

he is just our AHL McM basically.

Depends how you set up your team
We don't have to have the 3rd line be a "checking" unit
We can role 3 scoring lines
And vanek & Pommer are free agents after next season,
No guarantee they'll be back

At any rate,
Having too many good forwards is hardly a problem
Gives us the depth to package a couple "good" players for a "great" one
- jdfitz77

problem wasnt the best choice of words. im just thinking along the lines of why darcy wouldnt take the risk and go after a "great" player now, instead of risking getting nothing in return for our players and just letting them become UFA's

Tarnasky would be a interesting fit as a 4C.. allows McCormick to move to Winger.

McM - Tarnasky - Kaleta

Scott - Weber/Regehr

enter the ice like the Ottawa-Buffalo Brawl.

I'm sorry that I'm old school.. I love guys that are physical and will crack someone right upside their head for saying the wrong thing..
- JVince11

If you Sabres fans are interested in CoHo from a metrics point of view here's a good article by the bloggers Pass It To Bulis. Ultimately, Cody's a player with great vision and offensive instincts, but his back checking and skating? Kassian could be a total bust, but things must have gone very far south for Gillis to trade for him.

http://vansunsportsblogs....-two-makeovers-this-year/
- tgropen

I was wondering why Gillis traded him for basically nothing myself.

I was wondering why Gillis traded him for basically nothing myself.
- alexthegr8

then i guess theoretically putting hodgson on the 1st line, where he'd get the majority of the offensive zone opportunities, with vanek and pominville...he'll be the offensive force we need him to be after all.

all that article says to me is that they should have been using cody in that way from the begining and he can BECOME a 2 way player down the stretch. using him in offensive situations isnt a completely bad thing

I was wondering why Gillis traded him for basically nothing myself.
- alexthegr8

OH YEAH, and his skating didnt look too shabby in the scrimmage, was probably the most shifty player out there.

apparently cody's been doin some work this offseason

OH YEAH, and his skating didnt look too shabby in the scrimmage, was probably the most shifty player out there.

apparently cody's been doin some work this offseason
- qcstudios

He's also healthy. Gary Roberts sent him to see a doc cuz he wasn't progressing like he should. They found a torn muscle in his back. (something the Nucks missed?)

then i guess theoretically putting hodgson on the 1st line, where he'd get the majority of the offensive zone opportunities, with vanek and pominville...he'll be the offensive force we need him to be after all.

all that article says to me is that they should have been using cody in that way from the begining and he can BECOME a 2 way player down the stretch. using him in offensive situations isnt a completely bad thing
- qcstudios

If he turns out to be a great two way player, great. I just dont see it. I was excited when the sabres traded kassian ( i never wanted the sabres to draft the him in the fist place) and thought the guy would exactly help the sabres playoff chances. After watching him play, i was disapointed especially when everyone considers him a top 6 forward. I see him as an effective third line player, with ott( who i hate)and whoever else you throw on that line.

It's hard to change a way a person skates ( information passed along to me when I spent time in Ann Arbor around the NTDP program last summer). The sabres tried improving zach kassian's skating and look how that turned out. Working with Gary Roberts isnt improving his skating, it's improving his strength and durability.

He still didnt dominate the development camp,which is puzzling considering he was playing against players without any nhl experience.

I just dont understand why Gillis would trade hodgosn for nothing especially with the injuries keslar has been dealing with the last couple of years?