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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Are we looking at a the first MAX D-man? Is a deadline for trade coming?
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ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jul 16 @ 3:02 PM ET
just curious.

Kovalchuk was an all-star forward who had scored 187 in 4 seasons prior to being traded. An average of 47 goals/season. Unreal!!

He was traded for a d man, a rookie forward, a prospect, and a 1st.

That's just to show how ridiculous this asking price is.

2 top 6 F
1 top 4 D
2 top prospects
and
2 1sts

insane if anyone comes close to paying that
GOODPLAYA20
New York Rangers
Location: "Are you gonna bark all day, l
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
well his drug addiction (rumored) wont help and well his career high of 54 pts isnt going to wow anyone

and how did clarkson become involved? let alone being called an allstar

- dmarsden2988


WTF are you talking about?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
I personally don't want to see the Flyers give up what it will take (talking In Lindros numbers) to get Weber no matter how great of a dman he is. I just don't think they have the depth outside of the NHL to do that.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 16 @ 3:04 PM ET
Alright here we go....

Schenn, schenn, voracek, MAB, laughton, and 2 firsts

Something along those lines. I like cooter to much to include him in any trade if possible even though I'm sure poille would push for him

- TypicalCat18


no bloody way.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
WTF are you talking about?
- GOODPLAYA20


pain killers
GOODPLAYA20
New York Rangers
Location: "Are you gonna bark all day, l
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
pain killers
- dmarsden2988


I'll repeat. This time in caps for emphasis. WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:08 PM ET
2 Top Six forwards
1 Top four defender
2 Top Flight prospects

"AND"

2 First round picks

All so you can pay a guy "MAX" money ? ? ?

REALLY ? ? ?

Whoever does that should be FIRED

- .HOHO.


Hemsky
Pajaarvi
Klefbom
Gernat or Musil
2 - 1sts
for a long-term signed Weber.

I'd do it if he's signed for like 10 years at 8mil per
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:10 PM ET
just curious.

Kovalchuk was an all-star forward who had scored 187 in 4 seasons prior to being traded. An average of 47 goals/season. Unreal!!

He was traded for a d man, a rookie forward, a prospect, and a 1st.

That's just to show how ridiculous this asking price is.

2 top 6 F
1 top 4 D
2 top prospects
and
2 1sts

insane if anyone comes close to paying that

- ILoveLamp

Exactly, what team has that much depth where they could afford to? Edmonton, maybe? They're pretty much the only team that can afford to give up that kind of talent along with prospects and 2 picks for a D man. But as you eluded to, any team willing to compromise their future success for one player IS insane.
bluecoconuts
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
I'm pretty confident the Kings wont be exploring this... Would it be nice to have Weber? Sure, Weber and Doughty paired together would be pretty scary... Are they willing to pay the price? Not even close, they have the defensive depth they need/want....

Nobody is going to give up that much for Weber, that would just set you back years.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
I'll repeat. This time in caps for emphasis. WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
- GOODPLAYA20


a few of my friends that are ranger fans have said that dubinsky has a drug problem, thats why i put rumored in brackets
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 16 @ 3:12 PM ET
Alright here we go....

Schenn, schenn, voracek, MAB, laughton, and 2 firsts

Something along those lines. I like cooter to much to include him in any trade if possible even though I'm sure poille would push for him

- TypicalCat18



how in the world would the Flyers be able to compete for the cup with what is left?
Mats Naslund
Joined: 02.09.2008

Jul 16 @ 3:13 PM ET
You mention Montreal and I guess you have to..........for the hits but seriously does Weber make Montreal a contender?

Why would Montreal give up what you say is the asking price of a Two top six forwards, top 4 D-man, 2 first rounders and 2 young prospect.

So using this, Montreal would have to give up the following:

One of Subban Markov or Gorges -
Two of Plekanec, Cole, Pacioretty, Gionta, Desharnais
Two of - Tinordi, Beaulieu, Galchenyuk, Leblanc
Two first round picks

------

For arguments sake I'll pick from the list above what I feel are the worst players from the list.

Gorges
Gionta
Desharnais
Leblanc
Beaulieu
1st 2013
1st 2014

Not sure losing those players and getting Weber makes Montreal a better team short term let alone long term.

LOL.......Any team willing to give up that much is freaking crazy and stupid.....Basically Weber comes in and weakens your team right off the bat!

EK...Give your head a shake!
caneschamp07
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: NC
Joined: 07.15.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:14 PM ET
I, for one, would like to see Weber stay with the Preds (as much as I'd like to have him on the Canes, it's not gonna happen). This guy's one of my favorite players and it seems like he got kinda screwed with Suter leaving Nashville. I'd like to see the Preds really make an effort to build a solid team around him. Nashville's a classy organization, and I'd hate to see them suffer the loss of someone like Weber. So hopefully he stays, Nashville gets some good offensive players, and they can contend for a Cup. They deserve it. Can't wait to see Weber lay out Suter when Nashville goes to Minnesota (or vice versa).
Dwight K. Schrute
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sully sucks, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 16 @ 3:16 PM ET
a few of my friends that are ranger fans have said that dubinsky has a drug problem, thats why i put rumored in brackets
- dmarsden2988

I work for the New York State Government. Would you be interested in purchasing a bridge?
GOODPLAYA20
New York Rangers
Location: "Are you gonna bark all day, l
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:18 PM ET
a few of my friends that are ranger fans have said that dubinsky has a drug problem, thats why i put rumored in brackets
- dmarsden2988


Some legit sources there.
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:21 PM ET
just curious.

Kovalchuk was an all-star forward who had scored 187 in 4 seasons prior to being traded. An average of 47 goals/season. Unreal!!

He was traded for a d man, a rookie forward, a prospect, and a 1st.

That's just to show how ridiculous this asking price is.

2 top 6 F
1 top 4 D
2 top prospects
and
2 1sts



insane if anyone comes close to paying that

- ILoveLamp


kovalchuk was an expiring UFA. weber still has 1 more year on his deal. huge difference.
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jul 16 @ 3:34 PM ET
Hemsky
Pajaarvi
Klefbom
Gernat or Musil
2 - 1sts
for a long-term signed Weber.

I'd do it if he's signed for like 10 years at 8mil per

- BigDre


Hemsky and Pajaarvi aren't top 6

EDM top 6 is
Hall - RNH - Eberle
Yaks - Gagner - Smyth

no-one would want Smyth, the way he complained going back to EDM. And Gagner wouldn't really be wanted, so you'd have to give up two of Hall, RNH, Eberle, and Yaks.

Top 4 D, haha, you don't really have any.

two TOP prospects

AND

two firsts (which will be incredibly high considering two of Hall, RNH, Yaks, or Eberle, were moved out)
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 16 @ 3:34 PM ET
Exactly, what team has that much depth where they could afford to? Edmonton, maybe? They're pretty much the only team that can afford to give up that kind of talent along with prospects and 2 picks for a D man. But as you eluded to, any team willing to compromise their future success for one player IS insane.
- MnGump


Florida
NY Islanders
Minnesota
Anahiem
St. Louis
Ottawa
Edmonton

Are the teams that can put together strong packages without totally wiping out their prospect pool.
Gian_Carlo
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Collina d'Oro
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:35 PM ET
kovalchuk was an expiring UFA. weber still has 1 more year on his deal. huge difference.
- sensnucksnocups


This may also be the last time a team can sign a player to a disproportionately front-loaded contract for extended term. I think Bettman is serious about legitimizing the standard player contract going forward. If you had to offer Weber $13M/yr over six, that's a lot different than, say, 14 years at an average of $8-9M. A team would just have to hope that the NHL doesn't strike the deal down, like they did Kovalchuk, but repeatedly.
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jul 16 @ 3:36 PM ET
kovalchuk was an expiring UFA. weber still has 1 more year on his deal. huge difference.
- sensnucksnocups


please show me when the last time ANYONE 1 player was traded for 5 players and two first round picks.

Seriously, show me, cause I am almost certain it doesn't exist
nfabz
New York Rangers
Joined: 07.04.2010

Jul 16 @ 3:39 PM ET
Hagelin,Dubinsky,staal,miller,maclirath,2 1st rounders I'm not totally against that
- volcom955


Dwight K. Schrute
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sully sucks, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 16 @ 3:40 PM ET
please show me when the last time ANYONE 1 player was traded for 5 players and two first round picks.

Seriously, show me, cause I am almost certain it doesn't exist

- ILoveLamp

Eric Lindros
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jul 16 @ 3:43 PM ET
Eric Lindros
- Dwight K. Schrute


Lol. yup, just found it. 6 players and a pick.

and, Lindros, although good, won nothing in his career, while many of the players traded to Quebec (later the Avs) helped win Colorado a Stanley Cup.

hmmm
habs12
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Cole Harbour, NS
Joined: 04.29.2008

Jul 16 @ 3:44 PM ET
If the Flyers offered Couturier, Schenn and Schenn, it should be enough.
- spatso

Schenn became a top 4 def just by getting traded to the flyers?
LizzyJo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 07.11.2010

Jul 16 @ 3:46 PM ET
for the sabres to get weber myers will have to be included. that is a no go for me.
myers and ehrhoff are suiting us well.
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