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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Are we looking at a the first MAX D-man? Is a deadline for trade coming?
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Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 16 @ 2:40 PM ET
Jesus was a Palestinian Jew, there is not much minor hockey played in the middle East,I doubt his skating is up to the standard of a top 4 Dman.
- spatso


You could send him to the NYR, where he would be a draw and they could raise ticket prices.

You could also send him to the minor league team in Allentown (Phantoms), where he will at least be near Bethlehem.

Sam67
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jul 16 @ 2:40 PM ET
I just saw on capgeek that Calgary gave Roman Cervenka 3.75M
- cor99



They did not give him that. With bonuses (most likely unattainable) he could make that. He is making base salary under a million.
that is the cap hit though
TerryB
Nashville Predators
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 16 @ 2:41 PM ET
Leafs should offer Pnaneuf
Franson
MacArthur
Kadri and a 1st

- cric-crac


Kessel, Franson, MacArthur, and Liles would get it done. The Preds need to replace to VERY good defensemen. Franson and Liles don't come close. Luckily, the Preds have Josi, Ellis, Gill, Klein, and some decent prospects.

The Preds need some high end scoring talent- Kessel. Add in MacArthur...a prototypical Predator.

This deal would be fair. It would help both teams. Leafs wouldn't have to give up any prospects or picks.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jul 16 @ 2:42 PM ET
Leafs should offer Pnaneuf
Franson
MacArthur
Kadri and a 1st

- cric-crac


Gardiner, Lupul, kadri, 1st
Mike C
New York Islanders
Location: Centereach, , NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jul 16 @ 2:43 PM ET
This scenerio is all speculative fodder.
Predaceous
Nashville Predators
Location: Hypocrisy is prejudice with a
Joined: 11.11.2005

Jul 16 @ 2:45 PM ET
Jesus was a Palestinian Jew, there is not much minor hockey played in the middle East,I doubt his skating is up to the standard of a top 4 Dman.
- spatso


If Jesus could walk on water, surely he can skate on frozen water.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 2:45 PM ET
Yikes Ek! You must really love the Preds and their consummate professional GM to suggest such high payment. What will you say if the Flyers offered so much? Sticky situation for you. Win Win???
- TJ


the preds really should have made that deal for ovechkin a couple years ago now they will have no one but rinne soon

imagine all the players who would flock to nashville to play with the great8
TypicalCat18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.22.2010

Jul 16 @ 2:47 PM ET
Alright here we go....

Schenn, schenn, voracek, MAB, laughton, and 2 firsts

Something along those lines. I like cooter to much to include him in any trade if possible even though I'm sure poille would push for him
YouAreTheGovt
Nashville Predators
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 16 @ 2:47 PM ET
Since Karlsson is recognized as a better defenseman than Shea Weber (Norris Trophy) and he scored more points (thus better offensively), then it stands to reason that Shea Weber deserves less than $6.5 Million/year.

Don't hate this hockey fan on that analysis. It's the moronic NHL and the insufferable NHL fan base that is directly responsible for that very reasonable cost breakdown. There is no wonder Weber wants out of Nashville. He deserved the Norris Trophy (and league wide recognition) the past two seasons.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 16 @ 2:47 PM ET
Phaneuf
Franson
Kadri
1st

That's all your getting for that CRAPPY DMAN
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 2:50 PM ET
Since Karlsson is recognized as a better defenseman than Shea Weber (Norris Trophy) and he scored more points (thus better offensively), then it stands to reason that Shea Weber deserves less than $6.5 Million/year.

Don't hate this hockey fan on that analysis. It's the moronic NHL and the insufferable NHL fan base that is directly responsible for that very reasonable cost breakdown. There is no wonder Weber wants out of Nashville. He deserved the Norris Trophy (and league wide recognition) the past two seasons.

- YouAreTheGovt


but slamming a guys head into the boards WWE style without getting suspended has to count for something
volcom955
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 2:50 PM ET
Hagelin,Dubinsky,staal,miller,maclirath,2 1st rounders I'm not totally against that
cor99
Location: ON
Joined: 07.15.2007

Jul 16 @ 2:51 PM ET
Since Karlsson is recognized as a better defenseman than Shea Weber (Norris Trophy) and he scored more points (thus better offensively), then it stands to reason that Shea Weber deserves less than $6.5 Million/year.

Don't hate this hockey fan on that analysis. It's the moronic NHL and the insufferable NHL fan base that is directly responsible for that very reasonable cost breakdown. There is no wonder Weber wants out of Nashville. He deserved the Norris Trophy (and league wide recognition) the past two seasons.

- YouAreTheGovt


Erik Karlsson is terrible defensively. Brutal.

Unfourtunatly he has crazy good offensive skills. He will be a 55 to 65 point guy. Doubt he gets to 75 again
volcom955
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 2:51 PM ET
Hagelin,Dubinsky,staal,miller,maclirath,2 1st rounders I'm not totally against that
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jul 16 @ 2:51 PM ET
Erik Karlsson is terrible defensively. Brutal.

Unfourtunatly he has crazy good offensive skills. He will be a 55 to 65 point guy. Doubt he gets to 75 again

- cor99


karlsson isnt terrible defensively. he's average. average defensively + insane offense is why he won the norris. that's why green didnt win...green had insane offense but terrible defense.
Dwight K. Schrute
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sully sucks, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 16 @ 2:52 PM ET
Phaneuf
Franson
Kadri
1st

That's all your getting for that CRAPPY DMAN

- .HOHO.

Wait, is that crappy dman you speak of Phaneuf?...Thought so.
TJ
New York Rangers
Location: PA
Joined: 11.27.2007

Jul 16 @ 2:52 PM ET
Alright here we go....

Schenn, schenn, voracek, MAB, laughton, and 2 firsts

Something along those lines. I like cooter to much to include him in any trade if possible even though I'm sure poille would push for him

- TypicalCat18



OUCH! You guys are still hurting from what you gave up for Pronger........just say no!
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 2:53 PM ET
Hagelin,Dubinsky,staal,miller,maclirath,2 1st rounders I'm not totally against that
- volcom955


yeah dubinsky isnt gonna do it, he is an average 2nd liner now, and you cant just throw guys you want off the team in trades, its not the leafs proposals on here but its starting to get close
GOODPLAYA20
New York Rangers
Location: "Are you gonna bark all day, l
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 16 @ 2:53 PM ET
Hagelin,Dubinsky,staal,miller,maclirath,2 1st rounders I'm not totally against that
- volcom955


But I am!
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jul 16 @ 2:54 PM ET
yeah dubinsky isnt gonna do it, he is an average 2nd liner now, and you cant just throw guys you want off the team in trades, its not the leafs proposals on here but its starting to get close
- dmarsden2988

he would fit well in Trotts defensive first system.
TJ
New York Rangers
Location: PA
Joined: 11.27.2007

Jul 16 @ 2:55 PM ET
Hagelin,Dubinsky,staal,miller,maclirath,2 1st rounders I'm not totally against that
- volcom955



Preds and EK will be against it! You are dealing with the consummate professional GM here, and I don't mean Sather!
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 16 @ 2:55 PM ET
2 top 6 forwards, a top 4 D man, 2 top prospects and 2 draft picks??? Wow, I'm not saying Weber isn't worth that, but what team would be willing to sell their future success for one player?
And then there is the issue of re-signing him to a long term deal. There's no guarantee he'll re-sign with the team that traded for him.
I think most teams will take their chances in him becoming a UFA next year and just offer him a ton of dough instead of selling the entire farm for one prize cow.
volcom955
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 2:57 PM ET
yeah dubinsky isnt gonna do it, he is an average 2nd liner now, and you cant just throw guys you want off the team in trades, its not the leafs proposals on here but its starting to get close
- dmarsden2988


1 bad season makes him a average 2nd liner?? So I guess clarkson's 30 goal season makes him a perennial all star?
coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Louisville, CO
Joined: 03.15.2007

Jul 16 @ 3:00 PM ET
Given the unknown status of the CBA, I would be cautious with signing any player this offseason. Signing them for a bazillion years and dollars is dangerous. Trading away affordable players, prospects and draft picks? That's insanely dangerous.

Sure, you win by the Barry Melrose "the team that gets the best player wins the deal" but Weber cant play as many shifts as all those assets combined. A trade like that might be a Lindros trade, but even worse given the salary cap.

I agree with people who say he'll not make league maximum as most of the great player's don't leaving their team with some wiggle room to keep the team great.

Note, this is Weber's last chance to sign one of those crazy contracts that he doesn't intend to complete (retirement before contract expires). That gives Nashville some interesting options.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 3:01 PM ET
1 bad season makes him a average 2nd liner?? So I guess clarkson's 30 goal season makes him a perennial all star?
- volcom955


well his drug addiction (rumored) wont help and well his career high of 54 pts isnt going to wow anyone

and how did clarkson become involved? let alone being called an allstar
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