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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 8:59 PM ET
Oh little Jimmy_T why did have to leave us, er I mean why did you go and get banned until October, *sigh*

edit: March 13th 2014

- LeafMan




Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:04 PM ET

- weirdoh

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:05 PM ET
Knowing how poor the leafs finished the two seasons that the Bruins had their first round pick that trade was overpayment, but Burke believed he had a playoff team, so at the time it was fair. Burke just over valued his squad and that is why the trade seems like overpayment. If they were all #15 picks, no one would say it was a terrible trade.

Edit: I bolded the above text, because some don't think even with the high picks that it was overpayment for Kessel, but IMO knowing what you gave up, it is. It is arguable though. Just thought I'd clear that up.

- celata29


I agree. It's a distinction that's not made often when people make theoretical trades. Like, Weber for two firsts and whatever else is different if it's with, say, Pittsburgh, than it is with Montreal.

My point is just that I think people overvalue 'brand name' star players to a certain point, so it becomes like Weber or Getzlaf or whoever all of a sudden is worth four or five or six significant trading chips for one guy. In my mind it's only the very, very top players that might get that. I don't see a Weber or Nash being worth a couple of valuable roster players, a couple of firsts, and a couple of prospects. I'd give that up for Malkin, but not for just anybody who's a star.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:06 PM ET

- Flyfreaky




More like Reimer!


AhahahahahahA!
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:07 PM ET
I agree. It's a distinction that's not made often when people make theoretical trades. Like, Weber for two firsts and whatever else is different if it's with, say, Pittsburgh, than it is with Montreal.

My point is just that I think people overvalue 'brand name' star players to a certain point, so it becomes like Weber or Getzlaf or whoever all of a sudden is worth four or five or six significant trading chips for one guy. In my mind it's only the very, very top players that might get that. I don't see a Weber or Nash being worth a couple of valuable roster players, a couple of firsts, and a couple of prospects. I'd give that up for Malkin, but not for just anybody who's a star.

- Zezel

Oh I completely agree with you. I was in here earlier and we were talking about the greatest players of all time and I tried to shift the convo toward the weber trade EK offered, and I said it was crazy...let me go find it
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:08 PM ET
More like Reimer!


AhahahahahahA!

- weirdoh

Am I crazy for liking him?
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:10 PM ET
What do you guys think of Ek's proposal of 2 top 6ers 1 top 4 defensmen two top prospects and two firsts for Weber? As good as a player as he is...I'd caution against that. Especially if the long term deal becomes limited to 5 years.
- celata29

Here she is...

weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:11 PM ET
Am I crazy for liking him?
- Flyfreaky




Nope. He's an interesting fellow. It'd be great if he'd prove everybody, including myself, wrong and stand on his ginger head this year.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:12 PM ET
Nope. He's an interesting fellow. It'd be great if he'd prove everybody, including myself, wrong and stand on his ginger head this year.
- weirdoh

What do you think about the Isle moving to Brooklyn in 2015?
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
What do you think about the Isle moving to Brooklyn in 2015?
- Flyfreaky

I'd call em, the Brooklyn Boozers.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
What do you think about the Isle moving to Brooklyn in 2015?
- Flyfreaky




It'd be good for them wouldn't? Get a new arena. A nice fresh start. I'm not a geographic probability theorist but it's somewhat still close ain't it?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:15 PM ET
Here she is...


- celata29


Yeah...I mean, he's one of the better defenseman in the league, that's it. I wouldn't trade that package for any defenseman in the league. Hell, I might not even trade that for Crosby. Recall the Lindros trade and which side of that trade won multiple Cups
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:15 PM ET
What do you think about the Isle moving to Brooklyn in 2015?
- Flyfreaky

It would kill the team
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:21 PM ET
It'd be good for them wouldn't? Get a new arena. A nice fresh start. I'm not a geographic probability theorist but it's somewhat still close ain't it?
- weirdoh

Yes, it's still close...It only seats 14,500 for hockey, but it would sell out every game...14,500 is still 14,000 more fans than the Devils get...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:22 PM ET
It would kill the team
- The_Vark

And how is that different than right now?
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:22 PM ET
Yeah...I mean, he's one of the better defenseman in the league, that's it. I wouldn't trade that package for any defenseman in the league. Hell, I might not even trade that for Crosby. Recall the Lindros trade and which side of that trade won multiple Cups
- Zezel

Yeah it'd be crazy. One injury away from trading your team away for a player who is going to remain on the ir for years to come with nothing to show for it
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:22 PM ET
Yeah...I mean, he's one of the better defenseman in the league, that's it. I wouldn't trade that package for any defenseman in the league. Hell, I might not even trade that for Crosby. Recall the Lindros trade and which side of that trade won multiple Cups
- Zezel

weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:22 PM ET
And how is that different than right now?
- Flyfreaky




Now this time there isn't an arena that would fall down and kill the fans too.
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:23 PM ET
And how is that different than right now?
- Flyfreaky

True
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:25 PM ET
Now this time there isn't an arena that would fall down and kill the fans too.
- weirdoh

In brooklyn u got to watch out for drive by's
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:26 PM ET
In brooklyn u got to watch out for drive by's
- The_Vark




Or worried about getting broken windows from little punks playing stick ball all the time.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:27 PM ET
Now this time there isn't an arena that would fall down and kill the fans too.
- weirdoh

Sh*thole...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:29 PM ET
Or worried about getting broken windows from little punks playing stick ball all the time.
- weirdoh

What is your top five list of most hated teams due to an irritating fan base?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:30 PM ET

- Flyfreaky


Don't cry Flyfreaky, the Leafs trading Parent to the Flyers gave the Flyers the Cup. I'm sure aside from the Avalanche, no significant trade the Flyers make will result in a Cup for the other team again, other than last year.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:31 PM ET
What is your top five list of most hated teams due to an irritating fan base?
- Flyfreaky




Hmmmmm.


In no particular order


Flyers
Canucks
Habs
Sens
Pens
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